Why the haters be hate'n... Flyynibus have you ever seen them in person? For a poorly lit playfield the effect is amazing, quite dramatic as a matter of fact. I was considering spot lights for some time until i found these. Some of the picture may not be the best, but the effect is just as dramaticly different in person. No one removed GI just to modify the appearance of the difference. And if they did, then boy the pin stadium lights sure do brighten things up. Don't believe it? Maybe you should try ir or at least see them in person before you cast stones. Or if you just don't believe it then don't buy them. Live in the dark if you want, Fine by me. However, I like the product.