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***NEW*** PIN STADIUM Pinball Machine LED lights Mod Announcement!!!


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#1 2 years ago

We did an official launch release to the public on our new Pin Stadium WiFi/app controllable LED GI illumination and flasher technology for your pinball machine. We are super excited to offer this to the pinball collector and operator community.

PAPA/IFPA approved and endorsed for competition, streaming, and collectors. Also many well respected in the community love them too. Just ask them!

TWIP:
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Zach and Greg from SDTM:
https://m.facebook.com/sdtmpinball/

Nick and Kevin from Buffalo Pinball:
https://buffalopinball.com/

Jack from Jersey Jack Pinball:
https://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/

Martin and Ryan C. from Head2Head:
http://www.head2headpinball.com/

Tommy from Nitro Pinball:
https://www.nitropinball.com/

Josh and Chance from The Canadian Arcade:
https://m.facebook.com/TheCanadianArcade/

Trent Augenstein from Tilt Amusements:
http://www.tiltamusements.com/

Zespy the owner of the prestigious Logan’s Arcade:
https://loganarcade.com/

Mark and crew from the San Diego Pinball club:
https://m.facebook.com/SanDiegoPinball/

and many more!

Our Patent Pending Pin Stadium lights are Wifi controllable with via our iPhone/Android app and work on any machine. They self generate their own Wifi signal so that you can connect to them with your mobile device via our IOS/Android app. This is something that's never been done before and brings life and tons of quality lighting to your game to places that previously could never be reached. No more chasing dark spots on the playfield with LED bulbs or spotlights. Those days are over now. When you are playing you can't even see our kits are installed, but your eyes can surely see the results of the glowing playfield. You can now play in complete darkness with no need for overhead lighting whatsoever.

The kit installs in just a few minutes without any tools or drilling using our Magna-Mount system (mounts on the inside upper wall above the playfield down the entire length of the pinball cabinet just below the glass). Plus they are easily removed for maintenance when raising the playfield and can be moved to other machines if you sell yours. Just like you would do with a your ColorDMD. In addition they maintain the factory look due to the stealth mount and you have endless control with bright RGB and independent white LED lighting that is embedded in between. This gives you over 16 million color options and with separate white lighting control which allows you to choose how bright you want your playfield. The app has the ability to also color match the lighting color using your camera on your phone. Simply take a picture in the app of let's say a specific spot of your playfield and it matches the lighting to that color!

Charlie from Spooky saw them on our website on his Rob Zombie he said the results they were "Damn Impressive!"

If you are interested in more details feel free to visit our website at www.pinstadium.com for more information or shoot us an email at info@pinstadium.com

Pricing starts at $149.95 and you have the option for the additional flasher lighting and the GI module options. We highly recommend choosing the flasher integration when ordering as its dazzling. The GI module allows the Pin Stadiums to sync with the pinball machine's GI for a very cinematic and theatrical effect that goes with the lighting in all modes. It keeps the originally designer's GI control in place and then steps it up to whole new level.

Attached are a few Before and Afters from our website gallery: http://pinstadium.com/gallery/

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#3 2 years ago

Yes the UV+Glow is for the flasher feature and that's how we recommend using it, but you could also connect it to a GI constant bulb and have it on all the time. It's up to you. We did that on our GB Premium and the constant glow is really cool. You can always switch it easily.

#12 2 years ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

Saw these at papa on Trent's Aerosmith and while they were nice the led tape was coming off of the mount. Hoping these were a prototype and production units will not do this because they looked really nice and I wouldn't mind a few on my games.
Edit: I did not mean this post to sound negative, just a concern I had with them.

Those were prototype ones that got put on that machine temporarily from a early test version. The final production version does not have that issue and it's 100% resolved and no bugs remain. They are bolstered up and solid now!!

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from chuckcasey:

Our hobby/industry needs innovation and advancement. Great job Pin Stadium Lights, you're true leaders.
Will you be at Pin A GoGo here on the West Coast?

It is possible we make it there, but not sure yet. I think it would be a great place to show them off. We are trying to arrange our schedule and get as many out on machines at each show as possible. Thanks for the invite!

#14 2 years ago


Quoted from TimeBandit:From where do they draw power?

Yes, LTG is correct. They come with a 12v power supply and you can just plug it into the service port or run it into the machine from the screen vents at the bottom of the cabinet (you only need to do that if your service port doesn't work or is in use). No splicing or dicing needed. That's the goal. On the new Stern machines the service port is in the backbox behind the backglass/translite and our kit 12v supply reaches there too. Just letting people know that as they moved it back there (for those of us that are used to the Bally/Williams DMD location by the coin door). It was hidden to me for a while until Trent showed me that.
Added over 2 years ago: Edit: We have since upgraded our kits to eliminate the 12v power supply adapter and now each kit comes with a direct fit PCB adapter that simply plugs into your specific game. This allows the Pin Stadiums power to be turned on and off automatically with the pinball machine. Thank you for the suggestions and these will be included at no additionally charge for everyone's kit!

Added over 2 years ago: Great news!! Our kits now come with specific plug and play power adapters, no more 12v converters(unless you specifically request this). This new change means that our kits draw power directly from the machine and turn on/off when you power up/down your pinball.

Added 186 days ago:

The Pin Stadiums are now "Off the Grid". Which means they do not get power from your pinball machine's boards any longer and now come with our Universal Power adapter which simply plugs into the service port of the machine. Makes life much easier and it's included free with every kit. You can also converter your earlier Pin Stadiums to this no problem. https://pinstadium.com/product/universal-power/

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from jrivelli:

I saw these a while back wanted to try out. Very neat.
Although, to clarify, do they need to be removed everyone I want to raise my pf?

Yes, they are easily removed with the Magna-Mount system designed exactly for that purpose. Then when you are done working on the machine they go right back on.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from KingBW:

What is the "UV + Glow" option for the flasher?

Sorry I should have answered that better, that is for the flasher option and it basically is the brightest UV Glow effect out on the market. We make these custom, and have increased the brighness and also lighting angle throw so that it gives 100% coverage. They look great in most any game, especially ones like Metallica, Aerosmith, Monster Bash, Creature, Scared Stiff, Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness, etc. We have found that the darker the playfield graphics, the better the UV+Glow work on the machines. It's intense but not distracting. A big wow factor for sure

#19 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

This is kind of like one of those "I want to believe....BUT..." type deals. Reminds me when another vendor was all gung ho about LED strips in the back of games and their LED kits showed a dramatic improvement but everything was washed out with funky colors...kind of like what I'm seeing here. I want actual legitimate pictures that haven't been run through some kind of filter, or with game-appropriate color choices.
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4858&picno=18880&zoom=1
LOTR looks like a truckload of blueberries was dropped on it. That game is not supposed to be BLUE. >_<;;
Also...why are there no installation instructions on the website? You guys aren't the only ones to do this, but it's supremely annoying, especially since you're touting their removeability for resale. I don't want to keep track of some stupid stapled together 3 sheets of paper to pass on to the next guy in 2 years, plus, I think we're all a bit curious how these are actually being mounted.
How far off to the side of the game does someone have to be standing before they're blinded? Games lined up head to head how bad is it for the player that's adjacent? These are things I'd personally want answered before I'd chuck money at it, but I think it's a decent idea with potential if the installation is as easy to do and removing them every time you need to get under the playfield isn't a huge hassle. WPT that I have for sure could use some big general illumination help...

Thank you for your questions and I wish we had been able to launch at the Texas Pinball Festival so that you could have seen them in person as that would have been closer to you. Seeing is believing for sure and pics/videos never do true justice to pinball LED lighting effects, at least that has been my experience too. The before and afters are unedited and not filtered, other than just putting the images next to each other so that you can see the difference. In person is better, I agree and this is why we are getting them on display at as many shows as possible, Kalamazoo this week on Trent's machine (you know that he is not going to put something on his machines that is a lesser species), VFW, and then a whole list of other big shows to come. We will be posting up fully updated installation video too so that you can see them.

There is a Whitewater video on our pinstadium channel on Youtube that will show you the mounting and removal, it's not the best quality but should help to give you a visual on the ease of use of them. Also side by side they were designed to not be distracting to the player next you on another machine either, that's a good question and something that was taken in consideration as they are on the machines in our collection which are also lined up like an army. Here is the video I was referring to for WH2O so you don't have to search around for it:

Regarding LOTR, pictures don't do it justice or show the true colors. However since you seem to be like me and very particular about your LED lighting then the app will be perfect for you since you can adjust every single aspect of the lighting very simply to what you refer to as game appropriate colors. This was always a fuss of mine too. That way you can dial it to how you like versus being stuck with a linear set up that you would have to deal with. I know exactly your concerns and these were designed around a similar perspective during the creation process. Thank you for posting this up as it gives us the chance to address any questions that we might not have covered on the site. I hope this helps.

#20 2 years ago
Quoted from rrosenhouse:

Can you post some pics or videos of what comes in the package, how they mount, and how the UV+Glow works?

Yes, we will be updating the site and getting even more details up there for you.

#27 2 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

I'm assuming there is decent control of brightness settings, just not shown in the photos / videos? I'm interested, but they look blindingly bright at what is presumably 100% that they're pictured at.
How does dimming work? If it's PWM, do they flicker at lower brightness?

You have excellent control of the brightness settings. In most of the pictures they are at 100% just to so that the camera can capture the effect, but since the brightness is exceptional we tend to recommend running some pins at 60% brightness for the white and 80% for the RGB colors. They do not flicker either when at their lowest setting.

A nice example that is machine specific would be on the TWD Premium, its really dark from the factory and needs a lot of help but not too much because if its too bright I feel it take away from the haunting effect of the game. So in that screnario, setting the white brightness to 45-50% and then the RGB to a 100% Red, and 0% Green, 0% Blue, it makes the game look perfect and everything is clearly visible but tasteful. You could dial in a little but of Blue, lets say at 15% and get a slight Red/Purple effect, which helps to bring out the white colors in the playfield. Just to give you an idea of how flexible the controls are.

#28 2 years ago
Quoted from indypinhead:

what about us "old farts" that don't own a smart phone, and have no plans on getting one?

Good question, we did take that into consideration and you can use an old fashioned remote control too and that's included with the kit. No Wifi or app required for that. If you are even more laid back than that then you can just turn them on and use the predefined setting, but I have a feeling you will want to dial it in to your liking further.

#29 2 years ago

I hope that helps to ease your mind so that you know you don't have to be a techy to operate them. We tried to think of every type of collector and maybe a few don't have Wifi access from where the collection is located, in that case the remote is handy. It's included.

#50 2 years ago
Quoted from davijc02:

So do they come on when the machine turns on and retain the settings. Or do you have to turn them on seperately and reconfigure?

You can optionally not use the 12v power supply, and just wire it up directly yourself to a 12v source on the machine so that they turn on and off on your own. It's up to you.

When using the 12v power supply they can be easily turned on and off using your voice if you have Amazon Alexa(Echo) and soon with Siri, or you can use the app, or the remote too!

And yes they will remember your last setting. You can also save other predefined settings for each pinball in the app. So for example if you have a certain setting for a specific machine that you like then you store that and you can also created another one for your alternate choice or another person that likes it to look another way. You can name those and just tap on them to change it very easily. Whatever the last used setting was for that machine then that will be what will be remembered when they are powered on. The app will allow you to control and organize all of your machines that have the Pin Stadium kit.

You can group them, have multiple groups, and turn them all on at once or individually, their are timers too for operators with routed games. The scenario for that would be if you are open 9-9pm, the lights can come on and turn off turn on a schedule and repeat that process automatically too. I hope this helps to answer your question.

#56 2 years ago
Quoted from comment23:

Congrats on your launch Scott! Can't wait to see them in person!

Thanks!! They will be at the Kalamazoo show this weekend on Thursday on Trent's Aerosmith and of course you could always see them local too if you are around. Here are a couple pics off of my Aerosmith LE that I took just now. This is an upstairs room with good daytime natural lighting conditions. 1st pic is of course with them "Off" and second is "On". This is a mixture of white and blue ratios within the app. I will do a video with the "Off" and "On" shortly. That's even better. In the middle of a family Easter event right now.

It also has the UV+Glow flasher option like Trent's machine, it's connected to the Toy Box yellow flasher using the converter for the Spike 2 system. Dirty Donny graphics are designed UV reactive so the effect is very satisfying.

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#58 2 years ago
Quoted from pinnyheadhead:

What about a game with not many LED's on the playfield? My POTC is pretty much stock.
Should I just get Stadium lighting and pass on the LED's?

That is a good suggestion Chris, the Pin Stadium kit will be a great place to start. Our kit will take care of the playfield illumination GI portion, however LED's are still an option to consider for your insert/inlay lighting etc if you like that effect.

My experience has been that bright LED insert/inlay lighting on my machines looks great but without adequate GI it can make for more contrast on the playfield where the GI lighting is sub-par or non existent. Basically it can make those dark areas look even darker relatively, our kit will fill that gap and fix that issue for sure.

#59 2 years ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

Wow, I didn't realize this was not connected to the GI or that it had a separate on/off power.
I just ordered one of these kits last week, and frankly might have re-thought that if I knew these things. The separate on/off is annoying but not a deal-killer. Could this be wired to a 12V power source instead of powered by an always-on outlet?
The major downer is this not being connected to the GI. If the GI turns off, this NEEDS to turn off as well. Is that something in the plans for future versions? If it is not / will not be part of kits ordered in this first batch, is it possible to get out of my order? Before I would cancel my order, I would want to confirm how much GI dimming is in my game, but as a general kit, this seems like a must-have feature for games with controlled GI.

You can optionally not use the 12v power supply, and just wire it up directly yourself to a 12v source on the machine so that they turn on and off on your own. It's up to you. You could even order our converter adapter and use that to turn on and off with a 6v GI bulb and it will do what you want. I like how creative you are and good thinking. PM me if you want one of these converters to order separately

When using the quick plug and play 12v power supply they can be easily turned on and off using your voice if you have Amazon Alexa(Echo) and soon with Siri, or you can use the app, or the remote too!

#62 2 years ago
Quoted from grumpy712:

I'm interested. Can I see some pictures of the actual product (I like to see what I'm buying) including the light controller and power supply? In the video, it was too far to see how the lights are mounted. Can you show that in a close-up pic? Also, will it interfere with the glass? I still don't understand how you would service the playfield? After you unmount the lights do they just flap around while the playfield is up while working on it? This would be great for my Judge Dredd....I just need some more information and pic's on it would be great. Thank you.

Yes pics of the kit and more detailed videos will be updated soon also.

#66 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

What is the current draw at full brightness and RGB all white?

Full on 100% is 1.2 Amps.

#72 2 years ago

Okay this should help to show things more clearly what the Pin Stadium kit does for Aerosmith LE. I got the DJI drone out and filmed this live just a few minutes ago in 4K for those who are able to view it as such. This demonstrates accurately the before and after playfield illumination improvement you can expect to experience. The lights are being turned "Off" and "On" over a few sequences to show the results

#75 2 years ago

The video on our website shows them installed on IMVE with mirror blades and they do not reflect each other. They look great and and fit it really good. Take a look on the home page when you get a moment.

#80 2 years ago

The final production version has been solidified and is a re-design of what you saw, that was just a previous proto version that was used on that machine. All of that has been resolved and the final version kits are rock solid and professionally built. We received excellent feedback and received many orders from that event. That event weekend was super busy for us and a very fortunate opportunity. I know that not everyone can be pleased, but once you have the kit installed and use it along with the app I feel that this will be something you will may very well rely on for other pinballs in your collection.

It has been a year in the making and developing of these and it was not an easy road or a quick trip trip online to get any of this made. Even though initially I thought that same as you. There is a lot of hard work and testing that is put into these. The upgrade is made of high quality custom materials, pieces, hardware, circuitry, supplies, dimensions, sizing, awning design, and coding. These are have been gone over and redesigned with more revisions that I can even count.

Also the app is specifically made for the hardware and circuitry running the technology that controls the lights. Fortunately app development and creation is what I do for a regular day job, so this is tightly integrated and very specific to the Pin Stadium kit. There are a lot of many amazing features already and extended updates already in the works. The app is free too for all customers that purchase our kits. It's like code to a pinball machine and input to meet customer needs is always appreciated. I think that you would be a good person to even suggest a few tips as we welcome that so that we can continue to please as many as possible.

#82 2 years ago

Working to get as many pics and videos up as possible. If you go to our YouTube channel and look through all of the videos you should find most of what you are looking for. There is going to be a revamp of them with better quality footage with the drone video so that everything is more clear. Thank you for your interest and please feel free to email or PM too if you have any further questions.

#84 2 years ago

You would simply rest them on the playfield if you are raising it at an angle or if you need to go all the way up then you can just sit them vertical behind the playfield resting inside the backbox housing in front of the speaker panel. The wiring and harnesses are designed to accommodate this and you do not need to unplug anything. It only takes a few seconds and is very convenient.

#85 2 years ago
Quoted from parabol420:

I would love to see what this looks like installed on a machine with mirror blades. My fear is you will be able to see the reflection of the opposing side's lights. Very interested in ordering this for my rob zombie and Addams family.

Here is the video to the Iron Man VE that has the mirror blades and the kit installed:

#89 2 years ago

Great glad that was better! That was an iPhone 7 doing that versus the DJI Phantom Drone. The iPhone is much smarter apparently, but it doesn't let me fly it several miles away in the sky though. I appreciate the feedback and help.

#91 2 years ago

I was just thinking how it would be nice to do something like that with the iPhone, duct tape would be a great and funny contrast to all of that technology! While we are at it maybe put some Pin Stadium lights on it and fly it around the next show to draw attention! Probably not a good idea! When I film inside of course I don't have the blades installed on the drone.

#92 2 years ago

Per JonM's request he wanted to see the UV+Glow feature effect in comparison to the lighting from the Pin Stadium kit. In this video the kit is turned up to 100% brightness and the flasher effect on our kit is triggered by the top right ramp. So basically when you hit the ramp or any of the drone targets you will get this effect.

As many know it is hard to catch flasher effects and this color range on camera (since it really does have UV mixture in it), so it was not edited at all with the exception that it has been slowed down to more properly demonstrate what your eye would see in person when standing in front of the machine. Thanks JonM for the request and I hope this helps you.

#93 2 years ago

This is a before and after on a Stern Spiderman, the kit also has the UV_Flasher option which makes the playfield come alive when hitting the left upper ramp Venom shot. The settings in this photoe are at 50% white and 100% blue for the GI lighting setting. Pretty tame but tasteful for this pinball machine.

And a side by side comparison on the Aerosmith LE also.

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#94 2 years ago

Good update on things for everyone. The Pin Stadium will now have the option to turn on and off with the machine. It's been a request by many and has been implemented due to a special thanks to Chris from Rock Custom. He has been a great help to make this happen!!

#106 2 years ago
Quoted from davijc02:

Would be awesome to see the OP change the lighting to red and show how it illuminates and also how the UV flasher looks. Videos of that would be awesome!

For Rob Zombie and The Walking Dead I like to set the red at 100% and the white around 35-40% for an eerie look. Which is what I feel that game really should be. It's enough to reveal the dark and beautiful artwork also and let's the machine a GI and everything else do their magic without taking away from it at all.

It may look darker than norma due to the camera's eye but I can give it a shot and will post that up when i get back from this Kalamazoo Pinball show. Maybe a video would be better. Either way you'll see it shortly.

#107 2 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Fairly certain all of this can be doneThe flasher is the only part that is limited to one color choice as far as I understand.

You can choose from many colors and also a multi-color changing option for the flasher will be available very soon which can be controlled by the machine also.

Thank you for all of the great input from everyone and interest. It has been very busy in a good way and everyone's business and support is much appreciated. Thanks!!

The app is in an awesome evolution stage too as we have been taking input from the community and even more super cool things are to come. These will of course be free updates for all Pin Stadium customers too.

#120 2 years ago
Quoted from sed6:

How about Heighway? Will these work with FT or Alien?

I had the chance to look at the Heighway Alien at the Kalamazoo. I wanted to see it in person first and yes these will work very well with the machine as it is rather dark. It will bring much life to the game as the graphics are very deep dark colors. It's a beautiful playfield, a recommended setting would be 100% green, 30% blue and 15% red, then 45% on the white. This will keep your GI effect intact and not take away from your experience.

The game played great too and it's on my wish list for sure.

Also, regarding Full Throttle it will work awesome too. I'm not sure of the recommended setting on that since I have not really looked at it in person, but you could dial it in how you would like and I think you will be very pleased.

#121 2 years ago
Quoted from Soulrider911:

Very cool! I wonder how these would play with pin blades / power blades... would they just attach on top of them? Good stuff

Yes you are correct, they are applied on top of them. They have not been tested with power blades however they work great on my MET Premium with the mirror and graphic blades. They were specifically designed to work with them because most of the machines in collections have some version of blades, same with mine also.

#125 2 years ago

Once the pre-order of 100 is complete (it's almost filled), then we approximate 8-10 weeks. Thank you for your order as I do see it in our system for your Aerosmith.

For anyone that is planning on ordering it is highly suggested to place it sooner than later. As long as the shopping cart will take your order then that means there are still spots left.

#144 2 years ago
Quoted from J85M:

Got to second that, Scott is a pleasure to talk to and happy to hear peoples thoughts on the product which shows he is a true class act. I will be ordering one to experiment tying into the GI, if he could add that out of the box as an option these would literally be the perfect lighting product, options to suit literally every need and application.

Thank you and I really appreciate everyone's excitement and input. This is exactly what fuels a great product.

GI is definitely a possibility and I'll test it out myself and keep everyone posted.

I'm trying to make this as simple and affordable as possible for everyone (a lot are not handy and don't do DIY) , and if this is easily done and feasible I'll consider including it as an optional upgrade and be sure to email everyone before they ship to give you the chance to upgrade. Same goes with the color changing integrated machine driven flashers. It's in Aerosmith being tested now.

I'll get to working on this also and try to bulletproof a solution or at least help you guys to instruct you on what you would need to do either way !!!

#147 2 years ago
Quoted from sed6:

I placed my order. Can't wait! Now which will get here first, Alien or these light?
Here's a basic, no solder relay, anyone can use to control power to these via GI. All you do is stick two wires with alligator clips on the two screws on the left. Then you clip the alligator clips to whatever GI bulb or lamp socket you want. Then you cut the positive power line running to your stadium lights and stick each cut end into the screws on the right. Voila! Whenever your GI lighting has power the relay is closed and the stadium lights come on.

Thank you for your order and glad you like the product, it will look good on your Alien. When I saw the one at the show Gary from Abel Electronics told me to take look at it as he felt it could really benefit from the Pin Stadium kit. He was right, it was a beautiful playfield (plays like a solid BW) but so dark that you couldn't see much of the excellent artistry Heighway has done.

As far as that adapter, that is a 12v adapter and your GI is 5v so you would need to get a different relay that steps it up because the LED's are 12v. You may experience some latency with it also since its a mechanical system. Let me do my testing on my machines with the kits to see what I can come up with and I will keep everyone posted on this.

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#151 2 years ago

Yes that is correct Chris thanks.

#159 2 years ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

I asked for a status which doesn't seem like a lot to ask when I pre-paid 3 weeks ago under the impression the initial batch was almost sold out. Not insinuating anything, just trying to understand where things sit.

No problem and I know that you are just excited to get them as much as I am excited to get them to you. It's all good and I am happy to status update here. It is progressing well, and you are correct that the pre-order is almost completed. When it is, everyone will receive an email confirmation with a status update. Thank you for all of your support.

#163 2 years ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

Apparently not.

It's about 75% filled. Shipping time once the pre-order is filled is 8-10 weeks, however that is playing it safe and plan to get them out much sooner if possible. I will email everyone at that time. It won't be long!

#165 2 years ago

Actually the last order number was 89, but that does not truly reflect the pre-order amount because I found that the shopping cart counts abandoned carts as order numbers. So that is why I say about 75%, but either way once 100 is hit then the building and manufacturing will fully commence. The 100 amount is so that I could get the material cost down for the pricing so that these are reasonable and affordable for everyone, while also allowing a realistic timeframe for delivery as to be accurate. I want to do it right and be accurate with everything. I have no doubt in my mind they will all sell. The only marketing that has been done is this post 17 days go on the forum and then a few pinball shows to demo them to the public.

No worries and things are already in progress behind the scenes with these. They are not being outsourced and are all made here buy us at Pin Stadium to insure quality. We will be doing further marketing as the company progresses (no desire to go too big too fast since this is the initial release), but the initial goal was to get these to the Pinsiders first and foremost before anyone else. Feel free to tell a few buddys and share our link to order as this will close up the pre-order even sooner. Thanks.

Scott

#166 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

This looks like a really interesting product. I would be very interested to hear from WOZ owners once they have tried this. WOZ's GI is the real weakness for that pin, and this might help significantly. I've seen the pictures of the WOZ playfield with this lighting installed, but I would like to hear some testimonials. I'm intrigued .....

I would say that WOZ was my biggest motivation for these, since it was a struggle more than any other pinball to get proper lighting to this game. Spotlight after spotlight was added and it still wasn't enough. The one in the before and after picture is in my personal collection and now I can really enjoy it without the darkness it is commonly known for from the factory. It's a great game made even better now. I do have to be in the "extra energy" mood to play it because it can be such a challenge and journey to play it (in a good way).

Oh by the way we will be up at the Pinball Museum VFW Ann Arbor, MI show this weekend Fri-Sun with the Pin Stadium kits on display on Trent's Aerosmith Premium and another pinball that I will be bringing up also. So if anyone is near there or plans on stopping by, please come check them out and I can walk you through them in person. Seeing is believing for sure.

#168 2 years ago

We are moving forward and everything is in progress, so there is nothing slowing the original plan down. The good news is also that you are going to get an even more improved product with advanced features. In fact there has been a lot of innovation from input here too, all orders will get a game specific power supply PCB adapter kit that will allow the Pin Stadium's power to turn on and off directly with the machine instead of the 12v adapter, this will be at no additional charge too. Very clean and easy plug and play!

#169 2 years ago
Quoted from pinstadium:

We are moving forward and everything is in progress, so there is nothing slowing the original plan down. The good news is also that you are going to get even more improved hardware and products features. In fact there has been a lot of innovation from input here too, all orders will get a game specific power supply PCB adapter kit that will allow the Pin Stadium's power to turn on and off directly with the machine instead of the 12v adapter, this will be at no additional charge too. Very clean and easy plug and play!

#174 2 years ago
Quoted from Silverballer:

I appreciate the fact that you have listened to suggestions and are making changes/upgrades. Good things come to those that wait. We are all just a little anxious to see our playfields in a new light, or any light in some cases.

Input from those who love this hobby is always good. Innovation is better with like minds I feel.

I understand your excitement completely and thank you for the kind words and support. I feel that you will be extremely happy with the results.

#175 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

Thanks for the feedback. Are you coming to Pintastic New England this year? I would love to see these in person.

I would be interested in finding out more about that event. We are trying to get to as many shows as possible. I'll look it up. Thank you for the invite !!

#177 2 years ago
Quoted from King_Jelly:

Just ordered mine and sent a PM to invite you to set up at Free Play Florida.

Thank you for the invite and your order. I sent you a PM in response to your email also. Awesome! Looking forward to seeing pics of your IJ after you install our kit.

#178 2 years ago

The line was really long tonight for our TWD Premium machine with the demo Pin Stadium kit installed. It drew quite the crowd as many were anxious to see them in action. If anyone is in the area of Ann Arbor for this VFW show, now would be a great time to stop up and see them in person.

I snapped 2 pics, one is of the crowded line and the other I was able to catch the UV+Glow in action when it was igniting the playfield. Hope to see you all up here tomorrow and Sunday. Clay's collection is amazing with over 350 pinballs to play.

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#179 2 years ago

For those who didn't get a chance to see this in person:

Here is a video of our TWD Premium on display with the Pin Stadium kit at the VFW Pinball Museum show in Ann Arbor, MI. This pinball has our kit installed and UV+Glow flasher option connected to the Well Walker.

#187 2 years ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

When you're playing a game 1 or 2 down a row from a machine with these lights set up, can you see them in your peripheral vision? That picture from the side where they're bright as heck makes me wonder.

Eric, good question and no it doesn't distract or blind you as I have it shielded on the awning system so that when they are in a row and you are next to them it is not an issue. I was just trying to get some pics down lower so that everyone can see the lights too. I have them lined up like an army at my house with kits and no issues. It was incorporated into the design. It does look cool though to see them when you are at a distance, like eye candy.

#189 2 years ago

Thank you all for appreciating these and being excited enough about them after seeing them in person to post this. That's great feedback and I am glad that I was able to get to the VFW show to meet you all. Makes me happy to see your smiling faces when playing the machines and enjoying the experience of these. That's what it's all about and is great confirmation for the product. That was an amazing show and it was a pleasure to meet everyone.

#190 2 years ago
Quoted from Bigbossfan:

Scott, was going to PM you this question, but thought maybe feedback on this thread would prove valuable for anyone interested in the kit.
So, on your TWD at VFW, you had it hooked up so that the flashers would go off when the Well Walker was hit. Is this something that the user programs via your app? For example, I ordered one for my MET. If I want it to flash when it hits Sparky, is this done through the app itself or would I have to wire it the flashers for Sparky itself?

Thank you for your multiple orders to start!!! Glad you liked them that much, wow! And I will personally comment on your GC score, you smoked mine and it was an amazing game to witness.

To answer your question, the flasher portion connects directly to the machine and you can easily move it around with the alligator clips. So on Sparky you just connect it to the + and - of the flasher bulb on MET for example. Trent's Aerosmith has them on they Toy Box flasher so when the ball gets thrown into it to "Lock" you get that flash and powerful wash of light across the playfield. These are just the ones I have found to work well. Monster Bash is best with Frankenstein flashers and that playfield is the most intense reactivity I have seen yet out of all of the machines. It was unexpected and super cool. I hope this helps.

#192 2 years ago

You are more than welcome and I'm glad you posted this question.

#195 2 years ago

We are not sure yet as these are custom made for each machine and also with the flasher preference. As a result they are built for custom for each order. I will surely let you know once we get further into this. One thing is for sure that we will continue to make these regardless and the manufacturing time is going to be getting quicker and quicker each time. Thank you all for your support!!!

#196 2 years ago
Quoted from adamgacek:

I played Scott's TWD at the VFW this past weekend and was very impressed with the results. I also put up my personal best on the game, although way below the 700 million posted above (mine was 296 million). The UV flashers for me are cool but being tied to the well walker they become a bit overwhelming at times during multiball but I'm pretty light-sensitive. I'm not sure it was the lights that got me the score but i think it does help to be able to never have to waste even a fraction of a second tracking the ball with Pin Stadium installed.
I had already ordered 3 sets (one for AMH, one for WOZ and one for Domino's (with flashers)) and am extremely happy that I am order #2 and will hopefully get my sets very soon.
-Adam

Adam, it was nice to meet you and when I saw how happy you were to see them in person for the first time it was a good feeling. You were one of the first to see the vision of this technology with these with your early order, thanks. I remember you placed the order before the shopping cart was even live, haha!

Regarding the UV+Glow flasher option, you may want to change the flasher trigger to one of the ramp flashers. I put it on the Well Walker for the VFW show as it turns the playfield into quite a concert performance, but if you want to tone it down then simply connect it to the left or right ramps. That should a happy medium.

Thank you for being so pumped about these and I'm super excited to see the before and afters on your AMH, Dominos, and WOZ! I was impressed with the Dominos machine, it played great and was super fast. It ran very reliably all weekend too!

#197 2 years ago

Also here is a better video now that we are back from the VFW show. The upload without Wifi was low quality. This one is much better.

#199 2 years ago

Thanks, and you saw them in person so that's great input. I'm glad you liked them. The game does really well with this color.

#200 2 years ago
Quoted from Pale_Purple:

Just want to say that TWD played great, I wish mine played as good! I should have taken note of the level of the game.
The lights looked awesome, I'll probably order some for my TWD, the flashers are a must I think too.

Thanks!! One of the keys was I did have to modify the left bicycle girl ramp heavily. I did take the front ramp section off completely and put it on my workbench. I did the recommended dremel of the underside of the flap and also installed some felt pads strategically. Also tweaked around the left and right post screws for the upper portion of the ramp (see pic) so that it allows a better transition to the front section of the ramp where it hinges at the top.

As far as the level of the game, it was mid aggressive. Here is a pic of the bubble leveler as it sits now. I hope this helps.

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#201 2 years ago

We wanted to reconfirm and let everyone know that the Pin Stadium kits (ordered and to be ordered) will come with a direct fit PCB board adapter for your machines including the new JJP and Stern SAM, Whitestar, Spike and Spike 2 systems, Spooky, Chicago Coin, Bally Williams WPC, WPC 95, System 11 etc. This will allow for direct plug and play powering up and down with the game. These will be included at no additional charge either. Thanks!!!

#205 2 years ago

We are in testing with it still to find the best solution. Either way it will be something we offer as an upgrade option or instruct on how to do with the kits as they ship.

#207 2 years ago

Glad you are excited and it's all about forward progression. I will keep everyone posted on the results for sure.

#209 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

Question about using this in WOZ: Does it fit around the castle walls on the Ruby Red version? It looks like it does from your first picture. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture from the side of how it is installed in that area if you have time.

Yes it clears perfect. I will take a pic of my WOZ RR so they you can see it.

#210 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

Question about using this in WOZ: Does it fit around the castle walls on the Ruby Red version? It looks like it does from your first picture. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture from the side of how it is installed in that area if you have time.

I took a couple pictures of the clearance and mounting you want to see near the castle walls for your RR WOZ

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#211 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

Question about using this in WOZ: Does it fit around the castle walls on the Ruby Red version? It looks like it does from your first picture. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture from the side of how it is installed in that area if you have time.

Thank you for your order, I saw it come in earlier today. You are going to be very pleased with the results and also with your AC/DC too. Looking forward to the before and afters on both of those!

#214 2 years ago
Quoted from dmbjunky:

Would this install look similar to one in a BSD?
I was thinking the buildings might block the light.

Yes very similar to WOZ and WH2O with the boulders. It will clear and work great with BSD. The Pin Stadium kits were designed so that even when there is an object in front of them blocking the light, the other side of the kit will illuminate that area equally so you won't even know the difference. The BSD definitely needs them for sure. I hope this helps.

#215 2 years ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

how exactly are these stuck to the side?

They use our Magna Mount system, so it's magnetically attached to the inside of the pinball machine cabinet just below the glass line where it slides in.

#217 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

Ooops wrong person. I don't own AC/DC.
Thanks for posting the pics of the WOZ!

Sorry about that. And yes you are welcome.

#221 2 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

if the (UV) flashers are not on the strip where are they mounted? and are they part of the kit or extra?

They are an optinal upgrade. "FREEFLASH" is a discount code you can use towards them. They are stealth mounted on the same Pin Stadium unit at our GI lighting. Adjacent to them under the awning system.

#222 2 years ago
Quoted from Bigbossfan:

Hey Scott. Can we get an update with how many orders have been placed now bud?

Close in the 80's now. I will email when it's completed.

#224 2 years ago

Everything is in process!!!! Thanks Adam

#227 2 years ago

Thank you for both of your orders and we are getting close!!!!!

#231 2 years ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Oh man. I just went for the base to brighten things up. Are the flashers that cool? Any videos floating around?

I did see your order without the flasher option, but chuckwurt is right, the UV+Glow he saw on my MMR LE is super cool. I don't have a video of it yet, but can get one up soon. You can always email me and let me know if you want to upgrade. Now would be the time to decide as they must be installed at the time of us building them. It's up to you, but I would recommend it.

#233 2 years ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

What color would you suggest for flashers? Game would be MM. I was thinking about getting a led-kit, but perhaps I could do the lightning with this solution as well.

The UV+Glow flasher option looks really nice and performs well with the graphics on MM. I would suggest connecting it to the Castle Door flashers, as it seems to be the most appropriate spot on that game. You should be very pleased with the results.

Nice collection by the way. I will have to tell you that out of all of the playfields I have installed the Pin Stadium kit on with the UV+Glow upgrade gesture, MB is the most reactive one I have seen to date. I connected it to the Frankenstein flashers and when they fade on and off, the playfield is insane!!

#235 2 years ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Would love to see a video. Presently I really just want to brighten things up, but could definitely be persuaded

Okay here is my one handed raw filming of my MMRLE with the UV+Glow feature. I hope this can persuade you, it's as good as it gets!

#239 2 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

I'm about to order one but don't see anywhere to put a discount code?
edit I see its on the first page..

In order to apply the discount code, you need to first add the Pin Stadium kit to the cart then click "View Cart"(this MUST be done to enter the code). It is there that you can enter it. Thank you for your upcoming order!

Scott

#240 2 years ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Oh, btw where did you get that cool flickering light inside the castle?

Wow, you have attention to detail, good eye! I got it from Comet Pinball, its is their Flame bulb LED:

http://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/fire.htm

Glad you like it.

#241 2 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

I'm about to order one but don't see anywhere to put a discount code?
edit I see its on the first page..

Thank you for your order!

#243 2 years ago
Quoted from sed6:

Looks good! I ordered the UV+Glow for my Alien. Maybe try to include powering the strips on and off in each video. It'll help everyone appreciate the big difference they make.

Yes, I do try to include it and didn't on that last one since the MMR owners were specifically requesting to see the flasher feature since they were happy with the GI results they saw. I should have done both though in that video. Good point, thanks!

#244 2 years ago

Posting this up on the Pin Stadium kit installed in my Stern Star Trek Premium. Believe it or not, this game was really a lot darker than most think. Although it is one of the brighter Stern machines, it still needs a bunch of help.

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#246 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

Less talk, more production.

The earlier post to Adam indicates that we are in process and I'm moving forward. Sorry if that was not clear at all. Thanks and I am glad you are excited.

#249 2 years ago
Quoted from Pale_Purple:

Would it be possible to have it set to be triggered by both ramps? Also does TWD need the flasher converter? Going to order soon just deciding what flasher color to get (I did like the UV).

TWD does not need a converter and you could trigger it with both ramps if you would like too. UV+Glow was a big hit at VFW and at the NKY tournament on the TWD Premium this weekend if that helps.

#251 2 years ago
Quoted from Pale_Purple:

Thanks for the coupon code, bought one for TWD. My friend and I were really impressed at the VFW show, wish I would have seen this thread and known you were there. Will be cool to see one on Alien someday. I like that you can change the color of the LEDs that are always on with an app and only wish you could do the same for the flasher as well. That'd be too good! Trying to think if I should get white or green for WCS I think that might look good.

Yes thank you for your order and that would have been great to meet you up there at the VFW. We must have just missed each other. Alien is surely in need of one and I look forward to getting a set on that machine.
As far as WCS goes, I would say green would be the best looking in my opinion.

#262 2 years ago
Quoted from Brazy:

I've ordered these and have seen them first hand on my machines and others and the difference they make are incredible! The control through the app is already awesome and keeps getting better with Scotts reprogramming and upgrading of it so the user control is outstanding. The pics you see are really nice but when you see it in person it really seals the deal. I've seen concern about it washing out the light show but the user control let's you decide so that's no problem in my opinion. I love them.. thanks Scott and good luck with future runs of these.

Thanks for the input and I am glad you liked them. Thank for letting me demo them in your machines, this was the first time putting the Pin Stadium kit in a Tron and yours looked incredible. I had the UV+Glow flasher option connected to the Recognizer drop targets and it looked great, I am thinking that the Flynn flasher by the kickout hole would be another really cool place to connect them. It made me want to get another Tron in my collection after seeing it on yours!

#263 2 years ago
Quoted from Xtraball:

So you'd purchase multiple sticky magnetic strips (that you'd leave on each game) and just move the kit to whatever game you want at that moment. The app would enable you to recall how you like each particular game to look and you just hit a button and the lights are just as you'd like them to be for that game. Wow!

The kits are designed specifically for each machine and have a pcb power adapter connection to get the power from your machine. Moving them around is possible and not hard, but as we sell the kits they are made game specific. chuckwurt is streaming games and he liked them so much that he wanted to stream many games quickly, but if you are going to own the game then it's best just to buy one for each which is what he decided would be best. However let's say you sell the game, then it's like the concept of the ColorDMD mod, meaning you usually want to put it into the next machine you get versus giving up your mod that could have been used in the new one you are getting. At that point then you would just need to order a "power adapter and re-mount kit" from us which is easy and affordable so that you can accommodate the new machine.

#264 2 years ago
Quoted from Zora:

I just placed an Order for a kit. As I will use it for SAM and Spike games, I ordered the5 Volt / 12 Volt converter als well. I Hope the Converter is a separat Hardware, which can be added or left away depending for which Game you use the kit.

Yes it is separate, but included with your order if you select "Yes" to that option.

#266 2 years ago

I have moved them off of several machines before and had not had any issues, but I suggest a hair dryer or heat gun in order to do so properly and safely.

#267 2 years ago
Quoted from Xtraball:

The app would enable you to recall how you like each particular game to look and you just hit a button and the lights are just as you'd like them to be for that game. Wow!

The Pin Stadium app allows you to have a default setting for each game and also multiple custom settings for each pinball too in case you are in a different mood or the pinball is in a different lighting environment. Fully adjustable, you can even set custom color changing patters(up to 16 different colors in this mode) and choose strobe, jump, or fading while adjust being able to adjust the speed of those and brightness levels of each individual colors as it travels through the program sequence you create. You can also name each custom setting so that it is easily identifiable for you.

Also once you have multiple Pin Stadium kits you can organize them in the app and control them separately by tapping on them or you can even change them all to the same color setting simultaneously, and you could even really mess with people at a party by turning them all off unexpectedly to go back to the original dark playfield (I have done it several times for fun and it always brings a chuckle for most, assuming it's just a casual game being played of course, not some GC one).

The app also now allows you to color match the lights to the exact color of let's say a color you like on the outside of the cabinet or playfield, or anywhere. You simply open the app up, choose your pinball machine, then go to the camera option in the app and take a picture up close of the color you like and boom it matches the lights! This is really nice for the finicky person that wants precision color matching for their machine.

#272 2 years ago
Quoted from sed6:

What about damage to inside art or mirror blades? I really thought the magnet was on the light bar and it grabbed the tiny edge of the glass channel for adhesion. Like others have said, some installation instructions could have avoided any confusion.

There is not any room on the glass channel to attach as it would cause issues with the glass going in. When you receive the kit, the Magna mount system is built into the Pin Stadium kit. you don't have to do anything other than simply peel of the adhesive back covering off on the kit and put it them on your machine just below the glass line. It takes no more than a few seconds. Check this video out and it will show you how they mount:

It's a very professional mounting system and it is not going to cause damage to your mirro blades or art. These kits were designed to accommodate someone that is very particular and precise their machines and collections. I have them installed on all of my machines and they have been tested and tried. More than half of them have mirror blades and/or art blades. Take a look at my collection to see what machines they are installed on, all top end pins just like your collection.

Trent has them installed on his prototype Aerosmith Premium, and this weekend at the NKY tournament many had me install the demo sets on their machines (Tron, TWD, and GOT) with no issues or questions of quality but in fact even more desire to get them in their machines and to order more.
I hope this helps!

#275 2 years ago
Quoted from Nokoro:

How thin is the magnetic strip? My WOZ is so tight that the playfield can rub against the sides of the cabinet when I raise and lower it. I would worry about the strip peeling off.

The design of the mount is extremely thin and WOZ will clear with no problem and any machine to that point. In fact they even clear on my MET with mirror/art blade combos. This has been incorporate in the design and thoroughly tested.

#277 2 years ago
Quoted from davijc02:

It sounds like you are moving forward with production if I read right. When do you expect for them to begin shipping?

Yes we are officially in production as of this week and we are looking at 8-10 weeks but could be sooner. Things are moving very smoothly. Thank you everyone for your support and going forward we are still accepting orders that will follow in line after the pre-order crowd's Pin Stadium kits. Thank you for all of your support and we are super excited to get these out to you to bring to light and life to your pinball machines!

#278 2 years ago

By popular requests, I am posting this here also (granted this works on all the pins, but in this example demonstrates it on a MET rather well! ). Also this addresses the previous clearance questions about the kit. This is on my MET Premium and it also has the PinGraffix mirror/Pinblade art combo so it's as thick as they come and it still clears. You just have to make sure you raise the playfield carefully straight up and you are good!

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We have just installed our Pin Stadium kit with the UV+Glow flasher upgrade option. Our kit is iPhone/Android app controllable and when installed is invisible to the player during gameplay. This will provide your Metallica with not only excellent playfield illumination (this is in a completely dark room) coupled with our the UV flasher feature that ignites the entire playfield. You can fully adjust the colors and individually control the white LED lights independently of each other inside of the app.

I did my best to try to capture the UV+Glow feature effect, in person it's super impressive. If you have any questions or would like to place an order, please visit the Pin Stadium website at http://www.pinstadium.com

Thanks and I hope you all enjoy this.

#279 2 years ago

And here is the before and after for the illumination comparison that the Pin Stadium kit delivers to MET

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#285 2 years ago

Thank you very much for your order, it was received successfully. Wow!! You're going to love them. You have a really nice collection and I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of these with the Pin Stadium kits installed!!!

#286 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

Which I'm going to try my hardest to integrate into the pinstadium to sync it with the Lightshow.

Very cool and I think it would be a great match made in heaven. Feel free to PM me with any questions. I would be more than happy to help integrate this with your kit anyway I can. Let's talk!

#289 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

I'm already testing 12V leds driven via a stepup converter and all looks good. The only thing I need to know is whether your LEDs are common cathode/anode, or if there is discrete +/- for each colour.

PM sent !

#292 2 years ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

Are the strips how visible to the player? On some videos one can spot them easily and in some videos one cannot see the strips? Could it be that they are visible only when one has installed mirror blades in his pin?

Quoted from chuckwurt:

They are not visible to the player at all. You would have to stand to the side of the player and bend down to see them.

chuckwurt is correct, you can't see them when you are playing. In the videos I am filming them from directly overhead so you only see them because of that and the reflection. They are designed to be stealth and chuckwurt has seen and played them in person so he knows from experience.

#295 2 years ago
Quoted from J85M:

Looks so much better massive improvement on ST, but I have a blackout mod installed in my STLE, I guess until your kits can be powered/hooked into GI that a kit on my STLE would render my blackout mod/controller fairly useless?

We are still in testing with a new design that would allow the Pin Stadiums GI to sync with the games. I will post up our results, and let you know. Either way if you are a little crafty I could instruct you on how to do it regardless of if its an official kit are testing.

Also, on my ST I put the brightness setting down a bit so that the laser light show still works well. I found a great balance in the settings of the Pin Stadium app to accommodate this. However, if you are going to pitch black, then await my update on the potential GI integration option upgrade that we may offer.

#296 2 years ago

Here is a great before and after of the MMR kit. As many know we are a little over a week in production, we have created the plug and play PCB power adapter for the Chicago Gaming (AFM and MMR) pinball machine for a super simple clean easy install. We also have them for everyone else's machines that have placed an order. So anything from the latest current pinballs back to the System 11 machines.

This MMRLE Gold has this feature installed so that it powers on and off with the machine. As a reminder this adapter is included free at no charge for everyone that has purchased.

This pinball is my personal machine and used to have 7 warm white LED spotlights that I installed and still was inadequate, especially in the areas where it was not shining. This is also has the UV+Glow flasher feature too. The trigger is connected to the left and right castle flashers.

If you look closely you can see where I have pulled the bulbs and housings out. I plan to fully disconnect them and get rid of the eye sore of all of those darn spotlights!! I kept the purple castle ones though for the effect on the castle's walls.

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#301 2 years ago
Quoted from Brazy:

All of us here are pinball lovers and when we see a pin we appreciate the artwork involved so like you say on MM.. it's a kickass theme and looks great so when you can get rid of spotlights and hot/dark spots and really SEE the playfield it makes for a much better experience for sure. ST is perfect example, not the most amazing art yes but it is bright on the realm of pins and pin stadium lights make it a nice even coat over the whole pin. You will simply get more customers when they see it first hand.. that's my opinion at least.

I like the way you explain it as an even coat, which exactly what it does. I'll have to remember that term when explaining it to others at the shows.

#302 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

These look terrific! Great for competitive players like myself, I like to see every aspect of the playfield!

Thanks and you are correct, this will help tremendously with giving 100% visibility at all times of the pinball when playing. No more light/dark hot spots like driving in and out of tunnels on a sunny day. Your eye can track the pinball and you can focus on your next 3 shots.

I have experienced consistent higher scoring in my own experiences and I received the same comment from many at the shows too saying the same thing. bigbossfan played the Pin Stadium TWD Premium at the VFW show and said this:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-pin-stadium-lights-official-announcement/page/4#post-3755062

He also smoked my GC score, but ordered tons of Pin Stadium kits for his collection after playing so I think we are even

Another big benefit I have not mentioned is that when the playfield is illuminated so well under the glass with our kits, it also heavily reduces or in many cases removes any glaring from the DMD or backglass reflections you might experience. That used to be a big issue with me, especially when I had LED strips behind the flippers or spotlights that shined right in my eyes. Drove me nuts!

#304 2 years ago
Quoted from Bigbossfan:

Have ya wiped it off yet bud?? LOL

I just recently broke the record last Thursday at 975,968,790

#306 2 years ago
Quoted from Bigbossfan:

Shit.....epic game bud!

Thank you for the motivation But it wasn't easy.

#308 2 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Damn son. You shouldn't have backed out on the NKY league bro.

I will surely keep it in mind, thanks!

#310 2 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

One spot left in the tournament at my place Saturday. It's got your name written all over it!!

I am out of town in NY this weekend unfortunately. Thank you so much for the offer though!

#311 2 years ago

Many have requested a live video of the Pin Stadium lights being turned on and off from the player's perspective. Here is a raw video of exactly that to demonstrate the major improvement of lighting of the playfield. No more dark spots!

About 28 seconds in you will see this demonstration begin for about the next 10 seconds or so. This Metallica Premium is also equipped with our UV+Glow feature upgrade that is built into the Pin Stadium kit. So each time Sparky gets hit you will see the playfield come alive with the UV flashes. Hard to see where our kit is installed? Well that's the point of the our stealth factory mounting system. Even when you are playing you can't see it, but you can see the results. Check it out:

#313 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

Love the vids, but I'm already sold of course! desperate for my kit, show me pics of parts, parts, parts!

Yours is in production actually! It's very busy at the Pin Stadium factory to say the least. Everything is going really smooth too!

#316 2 years ago
Quoted from shlockdoc:

When will they ship?

We went into production last week and our ship time is 8-10 weeks, but now we are a week in so around 7-8 weeks. Production is going smooth so it may be much sooner. We will email each person as they ship. Also per the request of many, we are testing a GI add-on integration option that will allow the pinballs GI circuit to turn on and off the Pin Stadiums. Depending on how that goes, we will offer this as an optional upgrade before everyone's ships. This will also be LEDOCD compatible (another question by many).

Additionally we have also further enhanced the UV+Glow flasher feature to have an even brighter and longer light cast throw. All we can say is wow!!! Which means anyone that has ordered this option will get this newest version at no additional charge. It's quite remarkable.

Thank you all Pinsiders for the suggestions and we love the input. We are working on many cool features for our Pin Stadium app (iPhone and Android). Some have seen sneak previews at the show. You will be able to organize multiple Pin Stadium kits, and you can label the machine name too.

Another neat feature is that you can dial in the lights to a specific color using your phone camera. Let's say there is a color on the playfield you like, you take a picture of it in the app using the camera and voila! The lights will be dialed into that exact color.

There's even more to come!

Scott

#319 2 years ago
Quoted from Slim64:

If I wanted to switch from the blue flasher option to the uv-glow, is that possible?

Yes would be fine, there's an upcharge for that option. Just email me at info@pinstadium.com and we can make the adjustment for you.

#320 2 years ago
Quoted from CUJO:

Question and I apologize if this has been answered already:
When you need to lift the playfield and the stadium lite strips need to come off for the playfield to clear, is there a electrical quick disconnect on the upper end of each strip?

No problem and good question. No there is no need to disconnect them. If you are just raising the playfield at an angle you simply rest the light bars on the playfield, and if you want to go all the way vertical then you rest them leaning on the inside edges of the backbox (other end on the bottom of your cabinet).

It's really simple and takes a couple seconds because hey were designed specifically for this purpose. I can't tell you how many times I raise my playfield in a week or in a day. I'm sure many can relate to this. So it had to be easy.

#324 2 years ago
Quoted from littlecammi:

I would not order one for use on AFM without it (needed badly for strobe multiball) or for Monster Bash either.

Then you will be pretty happy as those are the machines I'm testing it on. AFM and MB are right next to each other in my collection. Similar minds think alike! I'll keep everyone updated.

#326 2 years ago
Quoted from Toucanf16:

Can the stadium lights change from white to green to support Space Station green mode?
» YouTube video

You can program then to fade from white to red at the rate (gradual, jump, or strobe) and intensity (brightness for each color) you would like. This will be what the do while you play and is not specific to the machine controlling that pattern though. You can dial in the lights to compliment it at any color and I am sure you will be very satisfied with the results and will also work nicely with that mode.

#328 2 years ago
Quoted from Bigbossfan:

Scott, don't know if it's been posted or not....the app. Also have you given consideration to making a tutorial on using the app and posting on YouTube?

The app will go public with the first Pin Stadium kit being shipped and we will provide instructions on how to use and offer email tech support with any questions beyond that. It's going to be a very simple to use yet sophisticate app with all the nook and crannies even the most detailed person will want to start. But again, we will add many more as suggestions and tips come in along with the great ideas we already have in the works. The same way we treated our kits we will treat the app with upgrades and enhancements from Pinsider ideas and suggestions!! It's the best suggestion box there could be really.

#329 2 years ago

Also to let everyone know that we do have some extra spots left in on the pre-order since our production is going so well we were able to open up several more. We are on schedule and likely ahead of schedule. We have had many wanting to order more, so if you or your friends want to get a set then now is the time.

Here is the discount code for the free flasher feature upgrade "FREEFLASH". This will discount your order by $25 if you choose the flasher feature or works as a 50% discount for the latest UV+Glow flasher color (by far our most popular). Thank you!!

#330 2 years ago

Thank you all for your orders, there are still kits available. As long as our website accepts your order then there are still available spots.

#332 2 years ago
Quoted from sed6:

I'm excited to see which will arrive first, my lights or my Alien pinball!
Scott, we're going to need an option for extra magnets. I'm going to want to try this out on several games. I wonder if the magnet(s) can be moved from game to game. I don't want to find myself at Wal-Mart looking for some magnets on a roll.

You definitely don't want to try to find these as they are specific to our kits that will stand the test of quality and time too. If you want to move our Pin Stadium lights to another machine to test them then that can easily be done. We can offer you an addition Magna-Mount system when we ship your order. PM me or shoot an email out to info@pinstadium.com

By the way, last night we had an in depth look at a Full Throttle machine and it really needed them too. Great flowing game but a dark in a gameroom setting. Made me think of you and your Alien. Can't wait to see the results on your machine. Please post up pics when you receive your kit.

#333 2 years ago

We have updated our website shopping cart to allow more orders. If you tried to place one and couldn't, that issue has been resolved. Sorry for any inconvenience that this may have caused.

Production is going well and we are looking at 5-6 weeks left!!! Could be less even.

#336 2 years ago
Quoted from littlecammi:

Any word on this option yet? I would add this (at extra cost) to the two units I have on order and place another order for two more units if this option is available.

Our first version that was tested last week needs some more work as it did not function to our liking on one of the machines tested, so v2 of the GI integration is in the works. I will post up here the results of that. We will also email everyone prior to shipping their order if this becomes an option. We are working hard at it!!

#347 2 years ago

For sure on the bumps. It happens, this has all been figured out and I contacted him. I think he just wanted others to know so that they did not run into that issue and that it was clear, thanks! It's all good!!!

Production update is even better! 4-5 weeks or less! In the meantime, here is a side by side comparison on the MMR with the Pin Stadium lights installed.

Also still working on the GI testing mod too, and before and afters of Tron with our kit installed coming soon also. We have the UV+Glow hooked up to the Recognizer target and it's super super impressive! Just got it hooked up this morning. I will post up pics soon and also some vids with our new camera system thanks chuckwurt !

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#349 2 years ago
Quoted from Mayboyz:

LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING MINE FOR THE BATMAN 66 SLE

Yes these are going to really make your BM66 come alive!!

#350 2 years ago
Quoted from pinstadium:

Before and afters of Tron with our kit installed coming soon also.

Check this out, fresh install of Pin Stadium's on Stern Tron Pro. This kit also have the UV+Glow feature on this machine hooked up to the Recognize target. Looks impressive and the effect is incredible on this playfield. TRON: Legacy (Pro)

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#355 2 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

I can only speak for the games I have seen the kit in, so I will do my best.
In my opinion, the flasher kit works best on games that don't go crazy with flashers. I think the GI only option would be best for games like Starship Troopers. I don't think the GI would diminish the flashers in that game at all. Best way to be for sure, take one of your pinstadium sets from another game and throw it into SST.
That's what I plan to do with WCS. I know the kit looks awesome in GOT (flasher effect hooked up to BWMB jackpots to make the whole game Flash green. I'm just not sure how the green flasher will work in WCS since the flashers in that game are used with just about any major shot in the game. I'm afraid it will be a bit too much. And that game has pretty good lighting throughout without the pinstadium lights so I might not need anything for that game.
SST is a very dark game though so it could benefit greatly from the GI piece of the kit. Also, I'm pretty sure the brightness can be adjusted (maybe scott can confirm or deny). That way you can tune it to a way that it gives you the added GI brightness and not lose those awesome flashers.
Also hooking the pinstadium into the flashers in SST will add to the flasher effects already in the game and will probably overtake the added GI brightness the kit gives you.
My official recommendation: treat pinstadium like CDMD. Take it from game to game in your house and try it out to see where it works and where it doesn't.
Remember though. You will need to add an extra magna mount system to each order for each game you would want to swap the kit from game to game. I got three extra magna mounts in my order to help me try this out in some other games.

cheeks chuckwurt
The key with any of the games is going to be able to choose the correct level of brightness. In the Pin Stadium app you can choose the RGB color and brightness from 0-100% and in between the RGB LED's are embedded white LED's of which you can control independently from 0-100% also.

So for example in a game like SST I would suggest turning the brightness up to about 70% to start and then go up/down from there. Then as far as the flasher feature, the UV+Glow would then really bring alive the playfield and won't take away from the other colors that are flashing. The right combo of the brightness, color level, and flasher color choice will make it so that you can dial it in to exactly what you want without losing the effects of the game. It will give you some very nice brilliant lighting to see the playfield and ball.

On WCS you could use our converter to trigger the flasher feature based upon another bulb other than the flashers if you decided you wanted let's say an insert bulb to determine when they come on or off. This would be a very creative workaround to this and I have done this personally on some machines for that very reason.

I hope this helps.

#356 2 years ago

Just a heads up as we start into another week of production. We have just put up a Facebook page for you all to checkout too. It would be a good idea to follow us here as we will post updates and footage etc. Thanks!!

https://m.facebook.com/pinstadium

#359 2 years ago
Quoted from neverahighscore:

Any updated time frame for the preorder people? My RZLE is pumped for this!

We are at about 4 weeks!!!

#360 2 years ago

To demonstrate the quality and brightness of our special made UV+Glow flasher feature. Normally you would just hook this up to your favorite flasher faster but in this case I hooked it up to a constant "On" source so that you all can see it since flash is hard to capture on camera. It creates an amazing and wondrous eerie glow that really brought the UV reactive Ghostbusters Premium to life. Look at Slimer glowing his glory:

#364 2 years ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

While I appreciate you providing options, frankly if I wanted an always on UV lighting source, I would get the Pinball Refinery UV kit for about 1/3 of your price. The whole reason I paid extra for your kit was the more normalized lighting and UV only in flashes, not a constant UV washout.

littlecammi is correct it was only to show the UV+Glow color and effect since it's hard to see when it flashes in videos. It's not the intended use but just a fun video I put up. You would just connect a feature trigger to this normally.

#365 2 years ago

Great news!! We are on our 3rd revision of our GI On/Off integration and it's looking to be rather promising. Tomorrow is going to be the first day of testing with the newly designed board. I will keep you all posted.

#366 2 years ago

Super exciting day at Pin Stadium! We have created an optional GI game controllable upgrade that is successfully working awesome. Many have requested this as an add-on feature

Originally the Pin Stadium kit would stay on throughout the duration of the game which works and looks excellent, however many have desired to have the GI portion of our lights to be turned on and off with the machine for the full light show effect. This really is exceptional and now those with games that rely on GI lights going off such as strobe multiball in AFM, Star Trek laser show, MB, and many more!!

We will be announcing the pricing shortly and please let us know if you are interested in upgrading your current order to include this. Watch this all of the way through until the end so that you can see the finale effect too. Let us know what you think!!

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#369 2 years ago
Quoted from J85M:

Don't rush him
The faster pinstadium gets the intial model/orders out, the faster he will get the v.2 with GI integration perfected and when that happens my wallet is going to go into cardiac arrest

Just letting you know that your dream came true! https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-pin-stadium-lights-official-announcement/page/8#post-3860979

#370 2 years ago

An even higher resolution video (different from above) of our kit in action on #Tron:

#375 2 years ago

Glad you all like it and it's also LED OCD compatible too!

#380 2 years ago
Quoted from zombywoof:

I've been following developments on this kit closely. Your perseverance at making the product all that it can be is commendable. One quick question, in its current stage of development, are the Pin Stadium Lights still turned on independently of machine power on?

Thank you very much and I am glad you have enjoyed the progress. Yes the Pin Stadium kits now are direct plug and play and turn On/Off with each machine.

Also here is the ending clip of the grand finale of Tron from the previous video. It highlights the ending for those who may have not watch it at the end. This is worth checking out:

#382 2 years ago

Thank you and glad you like what you saw!

#384 2 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

did I see its an add on. does that mean extra cost? and how much extra? seems like that's just the way they should work..

It is an add-on feature as it requires a custom control module to be installed inline with the Pin Stadium lighting kit. It was a big chore to get this to work and after many revisions and month's of testing we were able to offer this up. We will need to know with each order if you want to upgrade to this. Pricing and availability will be posted next week sometime and we will email all current customer's also.

#387 2 years ago

chuckwurt

Most are wanting it so that the pinball controls it's theatric effects for specific modes and shots. However from a competitive playing experience or for web streaming having constant on is desired. It's really a matter of what you would prefer. We are designing the GI kit to be able to be enabled and disabled depending on your preference and usage. So this way everyone may want one since its gives you full control.

#388 2 years ago

We will update this week with the GI integration option pricing and availability as many are wanting and waiting for this. We e been testing all weekend so our V3 version of this and it's solid as a rock. Also note that we are down to 3-4 weeks for the first pre-order sets to ship out.

In the meantime here is some footage of TWD Premium with our kit really illuminating what would be a very dark an extremely playfield in the low light VFW hall setting at the Ann Arbor show. The UV+Glow upgrade option is on this too and being triggered by the Well Walker. Enjoy!

#389 2 years ago

Here is a recording of a live stream of the first impressions of the Pin Stadium lights from the NKY Pinball group. You will get to see the lights turn off/on in action through the video but most notable at 4:55 in. Kit has the UV+Glow option too, hence the bright flashes when Recognizer is hit. Super cool effect, but the big thing here is the dark to light comparison. Enjoy!

Note that the LED light source is visible due to the overhead view shot which does not appear like this to player's perspective during the game:

#391 2 years ago
Quoted from Brazy:

The difference is crazy.. they will sell... and now your incorporating lights out with GI it will be more desired,IMHO

Yes we are super excited and things are going so well. Pin Stadiums have been sold to just about every major continent and for so many different pinballs. We will be posting shortly the pricing and availability of the GI integration upgrade option many have requested that is happening !!

#393 2 years ago
Quoted from delt31:

how much is this again? Seems to make a very big diff.

The Pin Stadium kits starts at $149.95 and we have plug and play adapters that are included for just about any pinball machine. You can place an order at www.pinstadium.com

If you have any questions please PM me here or email at info@pinstadium.com

Thanks,

Scott

#394 2 years ago
Quoted from Bigbossfan:

Scott, don't know if it's been posted or not....the app. Also have you given consideration to making a tutorial on using the app and posting on YouTube?

Here is the full walk-through and preview of the Pin Stadium app that many have been waiting for. We are super excited to announce this and show this to you all! It has been fully annotated and detailed as if I were in person demonstrating it at the pinball shows (which several of you may have been to). Here you go!

The video below is a fuller screen higher resolution version here but it doesn't have the walk-through. This one is good for getting a great visual on the app though:

#396 2 years ago
Quoted from davijc02:

How much extra is the GI integration?

We wil be announcing it sometime on or before this weekend.

#397 2 years ago

Here are some screenshots of the Pin Stadium app while it operates the kit on TWD Premium. Then a before and after with the lights On/Off

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