I've seen these in person and Scott has done an amazing job on these. The pictures posted above are pretty exact representations of what it looks like in person.

I have played on machines that had these on them in a row and cannot remember being bothered by adjacent games.

These are worth every penny in my opinion. I don't want to add spots lights everywhere to a dark game. This is so much easier. This is a great option for streamers too as games need to be really lit up well to run 60fps right.

Can't wait to get a set!

I am completely puzzled by this comment. The great thing about this product is that you yourself can decide if you need GI enhancement to your game. You are the one looking at your game and seeing that it has areas of poor GI lighting. So even though your claim is 100% false, does it really even matter what the before pics look like? Everyone that owns those games knows what the before pics look like. Hahaha

Yep!

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When I first saw these I immediately thought of this game. And shadow.

Yep. I asked scott this same question when I first saw them in action. Definitely possible but as they are provided they won't do that.

I'm sure it will get added in the future, but plenty of uses for this product as is, IMO.

This uses the service outlet.

Oh yeah sorry I missed that.

My Fire is very dark too. This would help that game greatly.

Same with F14.

Fairly certain all of this can be done. The flasher is the only part that is limited to one color choice as far as I understand.

I suggest seeing it in person for yourself and decide. The GI effects aren't messed with as much as you'd think. I didn't notice anything drastic even on a game that uses GI tricks like TWD.

For me one of the huge benefits of this is the added lighting it provides to help with live streaming. Best way for this to help with that is to be separate and always on. So having that as at least an option is a must for me.

I meant for streaming at 60 fps. You need tons of ambient light on the game in order to get 60 fps to look right or the game will appear very dark on the stream. I'm still learning, but this was the first thing I realized.

I think these lights being always on (or at least an option) except for the flasher piece, will eliminate my need for extra lighting outside of the game.

This 100%. One quick easy way to help brighten up those dark location games.

God choice. This is the first game I saw them in and I was blown away by the flasher integration.

Scott would have to post one. Or if go over sometime soon I'll take a video.

It is. We just used this at my house this past weekend taking a kit from TWD to GOT.

For me I'm going to see if I can just get a set that plugs into the service outlet like scotts original design. That way I can take the kit from game to game easy peasy without jumpering to each games power supply.

I have a big game that would benefit from this so I'm in a similar boat as you are.

Because of the magna mount that the kit uses, you just need to put the magna mount strip on each game then put the kit in, plug it in, and you're good to go.

If you want to jumper the flasher strips to a flasher bulb too, that's an extra couple minutes but for these older games it would be a 5 min swap once you get the hang of it.

Yes for everything but the last part. I'll defer to scott on that one, but I understand it that each kit has a signal for the app so you would only be able to have one setup saved for each kit. So when you switch games you would have to adjust to your liking for that particular game.

Yes. But it is all part of the kit. I went through the install this past weekend and it was extrememely easy. Not sure on removal though as I haven't done that yet.

This would be amazing.

They are not visible to the player at all. You would have to stand to the side of the player and bend down to see them.

Damn son. You shouldn't have backed out on the NKY league bro.

One spot left in the tournament at my place Saturday. It's got your name written all over it!!

Bump!! Ordered a set! Gonna stream these puppies as soon as I get them. Also I will be taking a couple games to the CLE PIN show and will swap from one game to the other during the show if anyone wanted to see that in action in person.

The first thing I do is get a call from my bank telling me they caught it and didn't let it go through.

I remember the first time I ordered from comet and saw a charge from some Arthur weirdo. I was like wtf? Haha. Saw the email and responded to it, then it all became clear.

Gotta love pinside scott!! Free bumps!

Yeah I have since changed out the stock spot lights with the crazy bright ones from Comet. They helped, but much better lighting from the pinstadium lights. Got every inch of the game.

I can only speak for the games I have seen the kit in, so I will do my best.

In my opinion, the flasher kit works best on games that don't go crazy with flashers. I think the GI only option would be best for games like Starship Troopers. I don't think the GI would diminish the flashers in that game at all. Best way to be for sure, take one of your pinstadium sets from another game and throw it into SST.

That's what I plan to do with WCS. I know the kit looks awesome in GOT (flasher effect hooked up to BWMB jackpots to make the whole game Flash green. I'm just not sure how the green flasher will work in WCS since the flashers in that game are used with just about any major shot in the game. I'm afraid it will be a bit too much. And that game has pretty good lighting throughout without the pinstadium lights so I might not need anything for that game.

SST is a very dark game though so it could benefit greatly from the GI piece of the kit. Also, I'm pretty sure the brightness can be adjusted (maybe scott can confirm or deny). That way you can tune it to a way that it gives you the added GI brightness and not lose those awesome flashers.

Also hooking the pinstadium into the flashers in SST will add to the flasher effects already in the game and will probably overtake the added GI brightness the kit gives you.

My official recommendation: treat pinstadium like CDMD. Take it from game to game in your house and try it out to see where it works and where it doesn't.

Remember though. You will need to add an extra magna mount system to each order for each game you would want to swap the kit from game to game. I got three extra magna mounts in my order to help me try this out in some other games.

Very nice!! Would love to see how these behave now in games like MET with that really dramatic light show on sparky MB.

Not to mention winter is coming hurry ups on GOT and Boba Fett mode on SW

For me I don't want them linked to the GI or to turn on and off with the game. I want them always on and turn off when I turn them off remotely.

Bob what games are you putting this in?

Awesome. I thought maybe STTNG too. The one at arcade legacy is crazy dark. But lighting in the bar is pretty dim.

I mainly bought mine for GOT but will be swapping from game to game to see what other games I will want to install these for.

For sure. That's why I went with the always on option that is powered by the aux plug in the game. I want to be able to swap them easy from my GOT all the way down to firepower. Yeah just hook up the GI part only.

Scott might have a more eligant option for those era of games, but I just asked if I could get a kit that just plugs into the aux plug.

I'll try. Think of the GI piece of these lights as a flashlight. Needs power to run. The lights tap into a 6v power source somewhere on the power board and turn on and off with the game. So switch the game on, they are on. Switch the game off, they are off. They aren't hooked to any of the lamps of the game.

This is where the flasher piece comes in. Completely separate LED strip from the GI piece. This you can jump to any lamp you want in the game and it will come on and go off with that lamp.

I hope that helps.

Looks like you have more room for games at the new house. Nice!

Had my GOT on the floor at the Cleveland pinball show all weekend with my pinstadium kit in there. Was played constantly, received lots of compliments and it won the best modern game award!!

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As soon as I get my game set back up I will. Gotta get screen shots of the app.

Holy shit. I thought these would be the best in TAF. This may have just confirmed it.

I would email scott.

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No.

Put my kit in firepower and then in LW3. Firepower looks good, LW3 looks better. Haha

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Are there lights in the game that go off when this black light mode starts? You can hook the GI piece into that bulb and you should be good.

Check out my stream from tonight on SDTMpinball to see the benefits of pinstadium for all you streamers out there.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/177995807

Yeah I would probably clip those the other way so that you can get the insulation over the connection.

I don't think you're being anal at all. Definitely a concern of mine. When I get a set that will actually permanently stay in the game I plan to switch to more permanent connection solutions as well. Right now I'm switching these from game to game on a daily basis. Haha

I would email scott and let him know.

I get cool white from changing the color to all blue then set white brightness at 100%

I've only seen UV Glow in WOZ and it looks awesome.

Even if you could, make sure and take seizure meds beforehand. Haha

Do it. Scott would appreciate the help I'm sure.

Yes. You'll get sick. Haha. Test it out to be sure, but yeah. Also if the spinner flasher is fast enough, the pinstadium flasher won't be able to keep up and it will just stay on if that makes sense.

At least that's what happened when I hooked it up to my GOT flasher bulb.

Yeah man. When I was trying to find the right flasher on GOT, the first 5-6 I tried were way too active. I had to walk away from the game for the night and try again the next day. Haha

FYI. GOT's flasher that you want is the right backboard flasher.

iOS or what? I downloaded and brought up the app no problem on my phone.

First thing you need to do is with you pinstadium installed and game on, bring up your wifi options on your phone. Your lights should put off a wifi signal starting with LEDxxxxxxx. Connect to that.

Then when in the app it should walk you through linking the lights up with your home wifi network.

Good luck.

He just turned down the white and blue all the way up. The app has a color wheel on it. You just drag your finger to the color you want. Then up the brightness of that color.

Then up the brightness of the white.

Not sure. Haha. Maybe there's a web version that can adjust the settings. I will say, the default settings are usually pretty good, but yeah you definitely want to be able to access that app somehow.

Buy a cheap ass tablet?

If I know scott like I think I do, you won't be left in the dark.

Yes. Like mentioned before, once you get the settings you want, you can disconnect all networking the lights have and the settings will hold until you change them again.

Pretty sure. You only need it to change the settings. Not to turn it on and off.

Actually now that I think of it, if the lights are on I'm pretty sure they put off that ssid. Not sure how you would stop that.

Plugs into the service plug. They mount to the side walls with magnets.

Great question. My firepower is as tight as can be from this standpoint and here is what it looks like before and after.

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Damn. Wondered about this one. This game needs these too.

It's a matter of personal taste. That's why we all pick different lamps.

Most games have flashers on the backboard. I would choose one of them.

Then fine any GI. Any bulb that is always on and clip the GI clips there.

No issues at my house. Lots of kids playing. No visible by he player no matter how they stand at the game.

Not at the moment no. Don't see why that wouldn't be possible in the future though.

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Front page of their website.

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I’m sure goo gone and you’ll be good to go when removing them.

Search this thread for Alien.

Nice!! I wonder how these would look with those clear ramps?

Stream am tonight playing LW3. I talk about the pinstadium kit at the beginning and show what the game looks like with and without but the lights on stream.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/187723375

Very well said. Scott is not messing around with this product. He did not put these out to customers until they were very very well built and had gone through extensive QC tests. I had a similar experience with my first set. He talked me through every step to get set up. Considering there are 100s of these out there, you can quickly imagine how much time he’s putting into customer service. He’s a one man show and had better service than a lot of companies with way more manpower.

Just played one this weekend on a creech. Didn’t know you could buy these without the GI module. Doe that mean they would just be one at all time? If so, that would be just fine for this game imo.

Yeah I don’t remember creech having any GI effects.

Man. SS might need pinstadium more than any other game.

Looks awesome. Makes those side art blades pop.

And make sure all the spot lights are on. People love to bitch about those being off too.

Try and find one that’s barely used. Maybe one of the backboard flashers.

I haven’t as mine looks fine without it, but I can swap my set into WCS so you can see before and after pics. I could probably get this done later this week.

One thing that worries me about it fitting is the coin toss mech. Not sure if that will allow pinstadium to fit.

Well shit. Looks like I’ll have to swap these into my WCS soon for a spin. Haha

I believe since you still have it hooked to the GI, unless the GI is on, the lights will be off. They will put off the WiFi signal however I believe.

No

Yes

You will have to live with the default settings though. Cannot change the colors or brightness.

Haha. That stinks for the default settings. Mine was just a basic cool white look. I guess whatever the last thing scott tested on the bench would be what it is when you get it.

Either way you slice it the light bars will have to be taken off the sides of the game. I agree that having a quick disconnect on the back of them would help completely take them out of the game faster, but it sounds like it would sacrifice some of the reliability of the system.

Laying them on the playfield takes some getting used to, but it’s not a big deal at all. This coming from someone that is lifting playfields with these lights in the game constantly.

I have not. I’ve had it on TWD for a long time too. Where did you connect the GI and flasher modules?

Also keep in mind I use the aux power outlet in the game. I don’t tap the power supply.

Wow. That looks great.

Who has that one? That’s the bad old one that Jpop touched. Ewwwwww. Haha

I have them on my Fire! Doesn’t come across well in pictures so pointless to post. Just keep in mind, the less clearance you have between the lights and the features of the game that are lined up along the sides of the game, the less room the light has to cover the whole playfield.

Still makes a world of difference even if you use these in a game where the playfield is right night to the glass. See firepower.

Try here. Others have had similar power issues in STTNG I think.

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Good question and I hope white flashers are an option. Would love to have a fast break at some point.

I have this with UV in my GOT. Took me a while to find a flasher that wasn’t way too intense and overly used, but I eventually settled on one of the backboard flashers. Worked out nicely.

In hindsight though, I think a set with green flashers instead of UV would work better. Blackwater multiball would look way better and fit the theme perfect.

It definitely adds to the already awesome light show, but yeah the purple is out of place. I think green would look better. I have previously changed all the spot flashers to green, so I started to get the effect I wanted from that, but I think green flashers on the Pinstadium would make it even better.

Just order a red flasher instead of UV glow.

Although not on the site I believe he will sell you extra sets of magnets. Good idea to have them on the site though.

It follows the GI from an on off perspective not color. You choose the color you want the GI piece to be via the settings in the app.

So if you wanted the Pinstadium to follow the red GI in SW, hook it to a red GI bulb and set the color on the pinstadium to red. Then whenever the red GI comes on in the game so will the pinstadiums.

I hope that helps.