The GI module will allow the pinball machine to gain control of the Pin Stadiums by turning them on/off/fade and does not change the color of them as the app will allow you to choose the color you would like that best accents the playfield. This way the original GI light show by the designer remains intact and the Pin Stadiums do their job to accent the playfield and artwork in between the machine’s GI where all that light is missing.

This was an intentional design on my part (not to follow color) because otherwise you would have one bulb from the pinball that you are connected to with the Pin Stadiums and it would change them to whatever color that bulb is and this would wash the entire playfield with red, blue, etc which would override and dominate the playfield with that color versus allowing the designer’s geographical color coordination they intended.

Many games nowadays control the colors in the GI in various sections with different colors simultaneously and Pin Stadiums respect that space accordingly.

Regarding The Avengers or any other machine, you can choose to either trigger from the RGB bulbs if you would like or white GI, but I have found from my experiences that it’s best to find a white bulb in most cases. I believe Avengers has both but you could ask Mark Maleko or Nancy at the San Diego pinball club to see how they hooked theirs up to their Avengers.

It seems like Robertstone0407 in the previous post here yesterday did this same thing too where he chose the colored bulb instead since it was his preference. My guess is both of these machines are very similar but I have not personally installed them on X-Men or The Avengers, but I do have them on my SW Premium and they are triggered best by the white GI’s in my opinion.

Here is a Twitter post San Diego put up with the Pin Stadiums on The Avengers:

https://twitter.com/missnancyrose78/status/956767783064227840

I hope this helps out. I’m happy to answer any more questions you may have.

Scott

Excellent points and I like how you think!! You can even go into the custom configuration and dial in the exact color, strobe/fade/jump, then control the speed of that then when the Red, or Blue, or White bulb comes on. So whatever you decide to trigger from it will introduce the color and effect at that desired moment. So running with Chuck's superb idea you can create in the custom settings the Pin Stadium lights to let's say "breath" with the fade effect, adjust it to red and then add as little or as much white light for illumination (this runs in between the RGB light so on the Pin Stadium) as you would like. Or just dial it to the color with no effect too. This would be a very custom dynamic game changer that make your machine unique from any others and even better "exactly" to your liking.

Possibilities are endless!!

You are welcome and yes that strategy is great for most all of them, and even in the case of RGB bulbs like in WOZ(my top seller) it does a heck of a job and with your color preferences and patterns(if you wanted) dialed in on the app I am confident you will have a set up that is to your liking with The Avengers. Mark can you tell you what they did and you can see what you think of his method. He was super happy is all I know but the specifics he can give you.

Yes you can trigger the flashers from any bulb and GI from any bulb, in fact on either one you can trigger from any 4v-24v source, motor, inlay bulb, white GI bulb, RGB bulb, any wire or trigger possible as long as it is not on the switch matrix as that would be strobe city! I think you are going to come up with something cool and when you do get the lights please share if you don't mind. I am happy to help you also of course.

Scott

That's some serious tweaking and I love that you are getting into the nooks and crannies of the Pin Stadium app. It's there for exactly these reasons moonduckie78 and it's exciting to see you are using these functions and features. I feel like I need to really focus on this more and offer some tips. Some do not know about this and it really isn't a hidden feature but is if you don't explore the app! Yikes!

There are some good videos out there already on it from SDTM and Buffalo, Canadian Arcade and more too.

Yes you got it and that is correct about the RGB trigger also. It was in the back of my mind when I was responding and you beat me to it. Thanks!!

Hey thank you so much for posting this up and I appreciate your order and "local" support of the product. It's funny how I had just finished shipping out an order to Sweden and then I get your order. I saw the address and it was almost like I was being pranked, haha not really but you were like 5 streets away from me and this is the 2nd time this has happened but you were even a few streets closer.

Then I saw you paid shipping and there was no way in heck I would have let that happen either which is why I am crediting that back.

So I messaged him to tell him that his order was ready for pickup within minutes. I think this was the fastest processing time ever, he placed his order and I happened have just finished making some and they were in stock for Spike 2. Then 10 minutes later he followed the billowing smoke stacks with bright flashing lights to the Pin Stadium factory. Delivered!!!

He did get the tour of the Pin Stadium collection with them installed. I even got to show him Dialed In it next the other games with the Pin Stadiums, he got to see how "comparatively" dark it was and then I fired them up on Dialed In

Thanks for stopping buy and visiting. Also it was great to see a new collector such as you so excited about this wonderful world of pinball collecting. You got into this at the right time for the lighting aspect anyways

Scott

Hey thank you for posting this up and you are welcome, very glad to help you. This is a unique picture of MET and I like how you toned the white down and used the blue to get a unique effect. You don’t see these settings often and it’s a nice example of also what can be done!

Here is a picture of WH20 Before and Afters.

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Just for fun I put yours next to this one

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Yes it’s a big change and that one is on my personal machine now.

Yes WOZ kits (GI and UV+Glow) are in stock as are others too. I have added an improved flasher adapter for WOZ that comes included with the Pin Stadium kit to make it even easier to install.

Scott

Not yet, I’m going to put out a bounty on it! If I had one local I would be able to play with it and figure it out I’m sure.

I am glad that you are enjoying the new Ghost Cables and this is a great example of the comparison of the improved version.

Also here is a big announcement for the improvement of Pin Stadiums and for it's customers in many ways. Going forward all kits will be universal for all pinball machines due to our "Universal Power" adapter. The same great features and effects as you would expect with the following benefits:

1. Even faster and easier install
2. Unlimited compatibility
3. Frees up power from your pinball boards.
4. Easy transfer if you sell or trade a machine

Our new power adapter simply plugs safely into the service port of your machine and the Pin Stadiums turn on and off with the machine as they should thanks to the smart logic of the GI module. Even better, it is included free at no additional charge with every order!

Also any previous Pin Stadiums that you have already purchased are also compatible with this and we offer a "Transfer" package that will let you make the transfer (comes with power adapter and an extra set of Magna-Mounts) to another pinball or convert your existing to "Universal Power" by ordering that adapter.

Thank you again for all of the suggestions from our customers and as always we listen to your needs and requests. It is important to note I am always working around the original and current Pin Stadium design so that when features or accessories are added they will be compatible with you current product. So there is never a reason to wait as the goal is to make things backward compatible with forward thinking progression!

Scott
Pin Stadium
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Thank you and I am glad that you are excited about the new additions. Just trying to make things easier for everyone on all levels and to improve the product and support for it. Beyond the hardware aspect of the Pin Stadiums there is a lot going of things that are being worked on to enhance the all even further. Very cool features and functions to come too!!

Wow you are making some serious progress with the installation process of these. That’s a lot of work and I remember all of the work it took to build these for your too

That is great that you are utilizing the separate white GI and separate RGB adjustability within the app. This is the key to the Pin Stadiums. You are seeing the benefit of that and putting it to excellent use. Without the combination of these two together, it would not be possible to achieve the results you are getting while being able to really bring alive the playfield artwork to exactly how you like.

Thanks for the huge support and glad you are loving them!!

Scott
Pin Stadium
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It’s available now and every Pin Stadium going forward ships this way at no additional charge.

Yes it will be updated tomorrow.

What settings did you end up dialing the app into for your TAF? I was just curious to see if you could share this. Thanks.

Particularly for the collectors that are getting these for machines with the purist concept of keeping the incandescent bulbs in place. I have installed them on games or for customers for this purpose and it's awesome but it would be cool to get your dialed in settings on the app that you decided you like for the % of white settings and color settings. Thanks!!

For those of you that will be attending the LAX Louisville show this weekend March 2-4 Fri-Sun. For specific details please click here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/events/pin-stadium-lax-louisville-2018

Come see SDTM in person!! ZMeny

We will have on display many customer's machines with the Pin Stadiums installed and in action. A special thanks to Jeremy and Matt who have headed up this event and have been extremely accommodating to Pin Stadium. To help support this event, we have donated a fully featured set of Pin Stadiums with the GI Module and UV+Glow for any pinball machine of your choice for them to giveaway. They will have the details at the show on how to win this prize giveaway!

Scott
Pin Stadium
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That’s awesome you got them all hooked up and going on GB! I regards to the flasher brightness control:

The flashers are driven by the pinball machine and the brightness is determined by how the machine pulses them.

The general rule is that if the pulse is short and fast then the characteristic behavior of the LED is to load fast and then fade quickly thus resulting in a bright flash. In the scenario that the pulse is slow then the effect is more of a softer glow. Different machines pulse differently and inside of those machines each flasher is controlled uniquely too.

I always suggest moving it around to one that you feel is appropriate for your tastes. I hope that helps!

Scott

John,

Hey anytime and I am glad that explanation helped you out. Keep me posted if you have any other questions. On GB I find the Ghost Trap flasher to be best but if you want more of a mellow glow then connect it to the Slimer motor for an eerie glow effect when he comes out.

Scott

Good question and glad you asked. You would just get a short extension cord like this and then plug the Pin Stadium adapter into that. Here is a picture of it installed on my DI machine.

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This has been updated on the website store.

They said it could not be done! As promised and asked by many. Here is the first sighting of a P2K RFM with the Pin Stadiums installed. As you can see the hologram is fully intact thanks to the Pin Stadiums WiFi app settings allowing full adjustability and it is turned up bright too! This customer said he could not be happier and is pumped to be able to see RFM’s playfield finally!!

Even crazier is the translite reflection went away too!

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It is like the last thing you might expect is to get this Invisi-look glass from this machine and have the hologram intact. So cool!

I was originally thinking the same thing and the brightness is definitely turned up on this higher than needed just as an example. The customer sent a few pics and all of the action is fully visible he says. I had asked about the “Free-Play Press Start” missing at the bottom and he said it was just how it was flashing off and on. I checked the “Live” version of it on my iPhone and sure enough. Pic posted with that part missing.

I will see if he can turn the brightness down lower and snap another also.

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Looking forward to the review video of these and it’s nice to see a not so common machine like Last Action Hero shining in its glory!!! Wow!!

Just to clarify as a few have asked questions about the new "Universal Power" adapter and if it affects or changes any of the great features and functions of the Pin Stadiums. All of the quality and light show that you have come to expect and an even easier better connection. It simply makes the connection to your machine much easier and also makes each kit compatible with any pinball machines and does not draw any power off of your boards either. This means it is still compatible with any mods you want to add etc.

Scott