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New Mod: TRON Interactive Backboard Display

By Compy

4 months ago


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#101 12 days ago

Good evening all,

First off, thank you so much to all of you for being so patient. Like the rest of the world, we're plagued by freight/logistics delays and supply shortages. So here's where we're at:

1. We went in on a bulk order with the Pinball Mod Co. to the same display supplier. You may know Pinball Mod Co as the company that offers IPS display upgrades for Spooky games. The 15.6" TFT LCDs that we originally designed this with were becoming shorter and shorter in supply. So, to alleviate any concerns and offer a higher quality product, we upgraded everyone to IPS displays and took the hit on margin. Those IPS displays offer a MUCH crisper picture with a much greater color contrast.

We then got the IPS display panels, but the company shipped the wrong control cards. Scott at PMC tested various power adapters and dongles and determined that they weren't a viable option, so he hustled and ordered the replacement controller cards. Those are scheduled to be delivered to PMC Tomorrow or Wednesday and they'll turn around and ship to us. Everything domestically goes UPS, so I'd expect to have these in by Monday at the latest.

Here's the tracking:
Screenshot 2021-11-15 214234 (resized).png

2. A MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR thanks to Fliptronic for lending me their TRON. For those who are wondering, the only units in existence are the prototypes I made. They were nice enough to test the unit, stream it and bring it to the Houston show this past weekend. Jordan and Becca, thank you so much. The test unit is now set up here for testing the initial units before they go out to you.

3. Plastics - We upgraded everyone to anti glare plastics. Through the testing on the Fliptronic stream, we noticed that it provided a much better picture given the bright LED GI that TRON has. This wasn't an issue on Twilight Zone just due to natural darkness at the back of the playfield. Unlike Twilight Zone units, everyone gets printed artwork plastics for free that match the playfield aesthetic.

4. Video assets - Done

5. Backboard CNC cutouts - Done

We've got all of the electronics for the controller boards in stock. We're currently assembling the cable harnesses by hand (as we do typically, but Molex shortages also make this a bit easier on time estimates).

Financially speaking, we haven't spent a dime of anyone's money. To date, I've only issued one refund to someone that decided to sell their game (hard to argue with current market demand!). However you'll be offered any chances to refund without so much as a glare just by shooting me an email. We'll honor those right up to the point where we assemble and ship your unit! Then of course, we'll offer refunds if you're not satisfied (pending a return of course!).

Sorry for the delay in updates, we've been heads down getting this thing polished up for recent shows. My phone number is also on the website, so feel free to call or email any time!

-- Jimmy

#102 12 days ago

I'll chime in and say working with Jimmy on this has been super easygoing and pleasant. The mod looks fantastic in person, and he has been receptive to my feedback. We loaned him our Tron to hopefully speed things up for everyone so he didn't have to wait to test new iterations at our place, and because y'all should get this mod asap, it's so so slick (#shill). At Houston arcade expo the machine sat turned on for about 18 hours a day, for 3 days, and we recorded about 600 plays on it. The first day we saw a freeze occur about once every few hours, turned out the flasher board was drawing too much off the controller and so just the flasher board was unplugged. Jimmy already knows how to remedy the issue but once unplugged there was zero issues for the rest of the expo, and lots of people I showed it off to loved it! They also loved the 4 powerballs we stuck in there as well

#103 12 days ago
Quoted from Compy:

Good evening all,
First off, thank you so much to all of you for being so patient. Like the rest of the world, we're plagued by freight/logistics delays and supply shortages. So here's where we're at:
1. We went in on a bulk order with the Pinball Mod Co. to the same display supplier. You may know Pinball Mod Co as the company that offers IPS display upgrades for Spooky games. The 15.6" TFT LCDs that we originally designed this with were becoming shorter and shorter in supply. So, to alleviate any concerns and offer a higher quality product, we upgraded everyone to IPS displays and took the hit on margin. Those IPS displays offer a MUCH crisper picture with a much greater color contrast.
We then got the IPS display panels, but the company shipped the wrong control cards. Scott at PMC tested various power adapters and dongles and determined that they weren't a viable option, so he hustled and ordered the replacement controller cards. Those are scheduled to be delivered to PMC Tomorrow or Wednesday and they'll turn around and ship to us. Everything domestically goes UPS, so I'd expect to have these in by Monday at the latest.
Here's the tracking:
[quoted image]
2. A MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR thanks to Fliptronic for lending me their TRON. For those who are wondering, the only units in existence are the prototypes I made. They were nice enough to test the unit, stream it and bring it to the Houston show this past weekend. Jordan and Becca, thank you so much. The test unit is now set up here for testing the initial units before they go out to you.
3. Plastics - We upgraded everyone to anti glare plastics. Through the testing on the Fliptronic stream, we noticed that it provided a much better picture given the bright LED GI that TRON has. This wasn't an issue on Twilight Zone just due to natural darkness at the back of the playfield. Unlike Twilight Zone units, everyone gets printed artwork plastics for free that match the playfield aesthetic.
4. Video assets - Done
5. Backboard CNC cutouts - Done
We've got all of the electronics for the controller boards in stock. We're currently assembling the cable harnesses by hand (as we do typically, but Molex shortages also make this a bit easier on time estimates).
Financially speaking, we haven't spent a dime of anyone's money. To date, I've only issued one refund to someone that decided to sell their game (hard to argue with current market demand!). However you'll be offered any chances to refund without so much as a glare just by shooting me an email. We'll honor those right up to the point where we assemble and ship your unit! Then of course, we'll offer refunds if you're not satisfied (pending a return of course!).
Sorry for the delay in updates, we've been heads down getting this thing polished up for recent shows. My phone number is also on the website, so feel free to call or email any time!
-- Jimmy

Thanks for the update Jimmy. Very excited to see it.

Do you still plan on creating a fiber-optic ramp mod to tie into this in the future? Nobody makes them anymore and lord knows my machine could use it.

#104 12 days ago

Looks awesome but the light cycles seem to block the view, and have to be taken off

#105 12 days ago
Quoted from gprotein:

Looks awesome but the light cycles seem to block the view, and have to be taken off

Not sure what picture you're looking at. The one posted by fliptronic (and one I'll post below for additional reference) shows where we move them to the sides. We include mounting plastics/hardware to relocate your light cycles with every kit.

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#106 12 days ago

Can’t wait to get mine Jimmy. I sent you a pinmail but I can see you’ve been very busy! Super excited!!!

#107 11 days ago

Looking forward to getting mine...although I do hope that custom attract message can be turned off, I want pure TRON goodness on my screen!!

#108 11 days ago
Quoted from kklank:

Can’t wait to get mine Jimmy. I sent you a pinmail but I can see you’ve been very busy! Super excited!!!

We can't wait for you to get one! Reply sent.

Quoted from AUKraut:

Looking forward to getting mine...although I do hope that custom attract message can be turned off, I want pure TRON goodness on my screen!!

Ahh yeah, good catch. We only enabled that because it was a show game, and we did a few custom tweaks for our friends at Fliptronic. Production customer units will ship without those enabled so it won't be a distraction! Pure undiluted TRON goodness headed your way.

#109 11 days ago

Is there a plan to make a kit for LEs with the moving recognizer?

#110 5 days ago
Quoted from Compy:

Good evening all,
First off, thank you so much to all of you for being so patient. Like the rest of the world, we're plagued by freight/logistics delays and supply shortages. So here's where we're at:
1. We went in on a bulk order with the Pinball Mod Co. to the same display supplier. You may know Pinball Mod Co as the company that offers IPS display upgrades for Spooky games. The 15.6" TFT LCDs that we originally designed this with were becoming shorter and shorter in supply. So, to alleviate any concerns and offer a higher quality product, we upgraded everyone to IPS displays and took the hit on margin. Those IPS displays offer a MUCH crisper picture with a much greater color contrast.
We then got the IPS display panels, but the company shipped the wrong control cards. Scott at PMC tested various power adapters and dongles and determined that they weren't a viable option, so he hustled and ordered the replacement controller cards. Those are scheduled to be delivered to PMC Tomorrow or Wednesday and they'll turn around and ship to us. Everything domestically goes UPS, so I'd expect to have these in by Monday at the latest.
Here's the tracking:
[quoted image]
2. A MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR thanks to Fliptronic for lending me their TRON. For those who are wondering, the only units in existence are the prototypes I made. They were nice enough to test the unit, stream it and bring it to the Houston show this past weekend. Jordan and Becca, thank you so much. The test unit is now set up here for testing the initial units before they go out to you.
3. Plastics - We upgraded everyone to anti glare plastics. Through the testing on the Fliptronic stream, we noticed that it provided a much better picture given the bright LED GI that TRON has. This wasn't an issue on Twilight Zone just due to natural darkness at the back of the playfield. Unlike Twilight Zone units, everyone gets printed artwork plastics for free that match the playfield aesthetic.
4. Video assets - Done
5. Backboard CNC cutouts - Done
We've got all of the electronics for the controller boards in stock. We're currently assembling the cable harnesses by hand (as we do typically, but Molex shortages also make this a bit easier on time estimates).
Financially speaking, we haven't spent a dime of anyone's money. To date, I've only issued one refund to someone that decided to sell their game (hard to argue with current market demand!). However you'll be offered any chances to refund without so much as a glare just by shooting me an email. We'll honor those right up to the point where we assemble and ship your unit! Then of course, we'll offer refunds if you're not satisfied (pending a return of course!).
Sorry for the delay in updates, we've been heads down getting this thing polished up for recent shows. My phone number is also on the website, so feel free to call or email any time!
-- Jimmy

Thank you! Very excited. Wanted to ask about the moving recognized on an LE. Is that still planned?

#111 4 days ago
Quoted from Damonator:

Is there a plan to make a kit for LEs with the moving recognizer?

Quoted from RobbyIRL5:

Thank you! Very excited. Wanted to ask about the moving recognized on an LE. Is that still planned?

Ask and ye shall receive!

--
UPDATE:

We're now packing and shipping the first batch! The CNC machine is cooking and churning out backboards! As of today, we've got a ton of IPS LCD panels in stock and are placing our second order for more due to demand. These panels are flat out gorgeous and paper thin.

PXL_20211124_003524477 (resized).jpg

MOVING RECOGNIZER:

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(Excuse the lighting, it was mid-effect)

Yep, it's here! The moving recognizer integrates seamlessly with the TRON Pinvision through our expansion board. The recognizer re-uses the toy that is already on your game and the entire mod replaces the top disc plastic on the same 4 locking screws/posts. For those who want this without a Pinvision backboard display, we're actively working on an interactive version. We don't want something that just sits there and spins all the time.

So, let's summarize all the options that are available and/or included:

1. TRON Pinvision display controller (everyone gets this) - Includes all graphics and the ability to customize any and all animations on the SD card.
2. HD IPS display panel (included) - Well worth the wait that we encountered, IMO
3. Anti glare reverse printed plastics (included)
4. Lightcycle relocation plastics (included) - Allows you to quickly and easily mount your lightcycles off to the side so you don't lose them!
5. 86Pixels "Big ass light bar" - provides themed/controlled RGB lighting on top of the display panel with lighting effects for modes/animations ($69)
6. Moving Recognizer Kit - Move yo' recognizer - $69 if you have a Pinvision kit (because we don't have to include the extra PCB hardware as its built into the master unit)

Happy Thanksgiving all! Me and Alana are staying local and packing/shipping orders!

Don't hesitate to post your questions here or by email. I'm still catching up on Pinside DMs, but should have those whittled down here shortly!
-- Jimmy

#112 4 days ago

Thanks for the update Jimmy! I will be adding recognizer mod to preorder..Wow! Great work! Happy holidays!

#113 4 days ago

Jimmy how do we add the big ass light bar to our orders.

#114 4 days ago
Quoted from Blacktoothgrin:

Thanks for the update Jimmy! I will be adding recognizer mod to preorder..Wow! Great work! Happy holidays!

Quoted from smoothbore19:

Jimmy how do we add the big ass light bar to our orders.

Hey guys!

Thanks for the support. When your spot comes up and your mod is being assembled/tested, me or Alana will reach out with final totals and give you the option to add on any of those things that you want. From there, we'll make sure everything gets tested and shipped.

-- Jimmy

#115 4 days ago

Thank you

Quoted from Compy:

Hey guys!
Thanks for the support. When your spot comes up and your mod is being assembled/tested, me or Alana will reach out with final totals and give you the option to add on any of those things that you want. From there, we'll make sure everything gets tested and shipped.
-- Jimmy

#116 4 days ago

OK that's it I'm in! I like the scrolling city background as it ties in with my buildings. I just placed my order with you.

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#117 4 days ago

Your buildings are an excellent mod for this game!
I’m also in for this backboard, its great.

#118 4 days ago
Quoted from Faust:

Your buildings are an excellent mod for this game!
I’m also in for this backboard, its great.

Oh I would live to see that backboard on a LE. Need to invite myself to your place

#119 4 days ago
Quoted from Compy:

Ask and ye shall receive!

--
UPDATE:
We're now packing and shipping the first batch! The CNC machine is cooking and churning out backboards! As of today, we've got a ton of IPS LCD panels in stock and are placing our second order for more due to demand. These panels are flat out gorgeous and paper thin.
[quoted image]
MOVING RECOGNIZER:
[quoted image]
(Excuse the lighting, it was mid-effect)
Yep, it's here! The moving recognizer integrates seamlessly with the TRON Pinvision through our expansion board. The recognizer re-uses the toy that is already on your game and the entire mod replaces the top disc plastic on the same 4 locking screws/posts. For those who want this without a Pinvision backboard display, we're actively working on an interactive version. We don't want something that just sits there and spins all the time.
So, let's summarize all the options that are available and/or included:
1. TRON Pinvision display controller (everyone gets this) - Includes all graphics and the ability to customize any and all animations on the SD card.
2. HD IPS display panel (included) - Well worth the wait that we encountered, IMO
3. Anti glare reverse printed plastics (included)
4. Lightcycle relocation plastics (included) - Allows you to quickly and easily mount your lightcycles off to the side so you don't lose them!
5. 86Pixels "Big ass light bar" - provides themed/controlled RGB lighting on top of the display panel with lighting effects for modes/animations ($69)
6. Moving Recognizer Kit - Move yo' recognizer - $69 if you have a Pinvision kit (because we don't have to include the extra PCB hardware as its built into the master unit)
Happy Thanksgiving all! Me and Alana are staying local and packing/shipping orders!
Don't hesitate to post your questions here or by email. I'm still catching up on Pinside DMs, but should have those whittled down here shortly!
-- Jimmy

Definitely adding the moving recognizer mod when my spot comes up. It looks awesome. One question Jimmy, do you plan to offer a fiberoptic ramp kit later as well? Please god say yes...

#120 3 days ago
Quoted from Compy:

Ask and ye shall receive!

--
UPDATE:
We're now packing and shipping the first batch! The CNC machine is cooking and churning out backboards! As of today, we've got a ton of IPS LCD panels in stock and are placing our second order for more due to demand. These panels are flat out gorgeous and paper thin.
[quoted image]
MOVING RECOGNIZER:
[quoted image]
(Excuse the lighting, it was mid-effect)
Yep, it's here! The moving recognizer integrates seamlessly with the TRON Pinvision through our expansion board. The recognizer re-uses the toy that is already on your game and the entire mod replaces the top disc plastic on the same 4 locking screws/posts. For those who want this without a Pinvision backboard display, we're actively working on an interactive version. We don't want something that just sits there and spins all the time.
So, let's summarize all the options that are available and/or included:
1. TRON Pinvision display controller (everyone gets this) - Includes all graphics and the ability to customize any and all animations on the SD card.
2. HD IPS display panel (included) - Well worth the wait that we encountered, IMO
3. Anti glare reverse printed plastics (included)
4. Lightcycle relocation plastics (included) - Allows you to quickly and easily mount your lightcycles off to the side so you don't lose them!
5. 86Pixels "Big ass light bar" - provides themed/controlled RGB lighting on top of the display panel with lighting effects for modes/animations ($69)
6. Moving Recognizer Kit - Move yo' recognizer - $69 if you have a Pinvision kit (because we don't have to include the extra PCB hardware as its built into the master unit)
Happy Thanksgiving all! Me and Alana are staying local and packing/shipping orders!
Don't hesitate to post your questions here or by email. I'm still catching up on Pinside DMs, but should have those whittled down here shortly!
-- Jimmy

Hi Jimmy, please explain a bit more details on how the LE recognizer is different in hardware setup from your new version? Maybe a few more pictures to highlight how the recognizer is connected to the backboard?

#121 3 days ago
Quoted from gprotein:

Hi Jimmy, please explain a bit more details on how the LE recognizer is different in hardware setup from your new version? Maybe a few more pictures to highlight how the recognizer is connected to the backboard?

Simply put, it's not connected to the backboard at all. We can't drill through a display panel (the display extends all the way to the bottom of the backboard behind the orbit ball guides).

We have a plastic that replaces the plastic that is on top of the disc mech with the 4 standing screws. On top of that plastic is a motor assembly with a cable harness that runs to the right and beneath the playfield and connects to our interface board on the backboard unit. From there, the controller can issue the appropriate commands on when/when not to move.

#122 3 days ago

All sounds exciting! Any short vid of the light bar &/or moving recognizer in action would be sweet. Looking forward to the next level backboard!

#123 16 hours ago
Quoted from Blacktoothgrin:

Thanks for the update Jimmy! I will be adding recognizer mod to preorder..Wow! Great work! Happy holidays!

Light bar, recognizer……hell yeah. I’ll take those on top of my original order. Just let me know what I owe ya.

Nice work!

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