Pinball machines have been shipped overseas for many decades without a problem

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Stand by to get a nasty letter from Stern Pinball for unauthorized release of their secret playfield formula.

Yes, but freshly made playfields from Europe to America to build a machine? Anyway, since Stern is having similar problems that eliminates the pond.

Freshly made American playfields, shipped to Europe by boat, inside of machines.

Wasn't Mirco 1 of the three playfield (art+clear) contractors for Stern? That would explain some lemons from stern as well.

I believe mirco has confirmed in the past they don’t make playfields for stern.

This is a HUGE hole in Mirco's quality control, and he refuses to fix it, which would be dead simple - release the pre-run final art candidates to the internet and crowdsource the art check before running a ton of wrong playfields. It would stop idiotic mistakes like vampire willie from shipping (that same playfield art had missing fill in the "Y" in SHORTY's name on the non-glitter PFs).

Super easy fix. It's been suggested numerous times. Mirco refuses to do it.
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First run WoZ ECLEs were Bader. Those were the ones where whole chunks of the playfield art and clear just chipped off (I'm not talking 1/2" pieces, I'm talking like 2" chunks) as the art and clear just left the playfield cleanly behind.

JJP is understandably skittish when the name Bader comes up, even now.

Figuring shit out.
Isn´t that what you do before you start to sell stuff?

Agreed. Goes for CPR as well. Hell - not just for PFs, but backglasses.

Are you talking about the absolute first runs of the game when we financed JJP to start the company and build them? I have no problems and know 5 friends who have them with no problems.

Nah, we’re the guinea pigs.

Pretty sure all the 2013 ECLEs were Bader with the massive print adhesion problems. The failure rate wasn't 100%, so it's no surprise you and your friends don't have issues, but a LOT of them failed, sometimes with huge chunks of paint and clear coming off, usually in the pop bumper area and by the winkie guard target. I custom cut a mylar piece to cover from the monkey targets down to the crystal ball entrance to make sure that area didn't come off.

And, just because it hasn't come off yet, doesn't mean it won't. I'd mylar those areas if I were you.

Sounds like when Williams had the insert under the playfield for the scratch test. To check the diamond plate. Not every playfield was scratched. I imagine they did it by batch.

LTG : )

My CSI had problems 12 years ago. My guess is stuff gets missed or not looked at closely with mass production. I am snail pace production over the last 16 years.

In addition to moving to Bader, the improved PFs for TNA also had art pulled away from the posts like the other manufacturers have done.

IF you want to help QC nine ball, here you go...

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/nine-ball-repro-mircoplayfield-and-plastic-set-available

Unfortunately I don't have any expertise with nine ball, but looking at that thread they've already pointed out that the PF is missing an "L" in "Lights" - it just says "ights" and some of the finer detail is completely globbed over by autotrace line-thickening that makes a mess out of certain areas - despite the fact that mirco swears he doesn't use autotrace.

Another case where releasing the ART samples first and fixing the issues would be better than printing a bunch and then trying to fix later.