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MI Pinball Refinery GI Lighting Rail


By HemiOrange09

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    Thanks everyone,

    Steve
    MI Pinball Refinery

    #2 1 year ago

    What's up Steve, how do these rails attach? The pricing on these are great. Are you going to be in texas?

    #3 1 year ago
    Quoted from woody76:

    What's up Steve, how do these rails attach? The pricing on these are great. Are you going to be in texas?

    Hey Woody...

    They will attach to the inside of the cabinet using magnetic strips for easy removal and the harnesses can unplug as well, so they don't get in the way when servicing the machine.

    Thanks, I try to keep my prices as affordable as possible.

    I'd like to go the TPF this year but I'm sad to say I can not attend... I have a family trip planned about the same time as TPF.

    Thanks for asking,

    Steve
    MI Pinball Refinery

    #4 1 year ago

    Glad to see you're still at it Steve. I have two Refinery editions. I'll look into this new product.

    #5 1 year ago

    Looks pretty effective at illuminating the pf, especially on RZ.

    #6 1 year ago
    Quoted from DngrWillRobinson:

    Looks pretty effective at illuminating the pf, especially on RZ.

    Absolutely. The UV LEDs are killer in this machine. It's a night and Day difference on RZ.. No pun intended. Lol

    #7 1 year ago

    Looks great Hemi but aren't these like pinstadium lighting except much cheaper?

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    #8 1 year ago

    Why does it appear to have such a huge bow in the center? The Iron man image looks like you can fit your hand in there? Does the magnet secure only at the ends or are these just for example images. Also, is there any way to hide that cluster of wires in front of the apron or was that just for example images and there is a cover or something?

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    Also, is there any way to hide that cluster of wires in front of the apron or was that just for example images and there is a cover or something?

    Quoted from HemiOrange09:

    You will route the wires on the back area of the machine to hide them. I have them running across the apron, just to show you the look of them in these titles of machines.

    #11 1 year ago

    Would these work with Gottlieb games? I was considering something like this for victory to make the center of the playfield a bit brighter.

    #12 1 year ago

    Can the brightness of the White LED GI Lighting Rails be adjusted?

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    #13 1 year ago

    Sorry but I'll still drive my support to pinstadium for integrating this idea and support an original local business. Its great to offer an affordable solution but at what cost to undercut a small business. Thanks for what you've done with pinballs but i will no longer buy any of your products.

    #14 1 year ago

    Thanks Steve, maybe I will see you in Chicago in October. Have a good vacation with the family.

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    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from Robertstone0407:

    Sorry but I'll still drive my support to pinstadium for integrating this idea and support an original local business. Its great to offer an affordable solution but at what cost to undercut a small business. Thanks for what you've done with pinballs but i will no longer buy any of your products.

    Hey Robert, in all fairness Steve has actually been doing this sort of lighting for years. When I first saw pinstadium lighting it actually made me think of Steve and Pinball Refinery. It's just business man. Everything good in pinball has at least 2 companies doing it. I own pinstadium lighting and it is great and I know Steve and he is offering a great quality product as well like all his other stuff. Like I said, everything good in pinball has at least 2 vendors doing it except Colordmd. There is room for healthy competition in this hobby. It actually helps control prices on a already expensive hobby.

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from woody76:

    Hey Robert, in all fairness Steve has actually been doing this sort of lighting for years. When I first saw pinstadium lighting it actually made me think of Steve and Pinball Refinery. It's just business man. Everything good in pinball has at least 2 companies doing it. I own pinstadium lighting and it is great and I know Steve and he is offering a great quality product as well like all his other stuff. Like I said, everything good in pinball has at least 2 vendors doing it except Colordmd. There is room for healthy competition in this hobby. It actually helps control prices on a already expensive hobby.

    That is fair and a good perspective.

    #17 1 year ago

    A few questions:

    Are the white $40 strips using WRGB led strips or just White ones?

    Is there anyway to control the brightness and/or color shade (if they are wrgb)?

    For the $95 color changing ones how would you set the shade you want if you want it always be a specific shade? Or is it just full red, blue, green, or white?

    #18 1 year ago

    Steve glad to help by letting you use my games to show this dramatic lighting effect even though you cost me some money. lol
    I don’t even want to play them anymore until I get your lighting rails installed. It is that dramatic of a change. Pictures don’t even do it justice. I can’t think of a better upgrade for the money. I really appreciate you making these affordable especially since I going to need them for just about all my machines. Also thanks for keeping it simple and easy to install. Steve keep up the good work. You are a great asset to the pinball community.

    #19 1 year ago

    Definitely interested in ordering these for my WOZ once the JJP version is available. Very cool!

    #20 1 year ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    Definitely interested in ordering these for my WOZ once the JJP version is available. Very cool!

    I should have the harness and connection done this coming week. I'll update the website so it will not say coming soon when I'm done.

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    #21 1 year ago
    Quoted from Robertstone0407:

    Sorry but I'll still drive my support to pinstadium for integrating this idea and support an original local business. Its great to offer an affordable solution but at what cost to undercut a small business. Thanks for what you've done with pinballs but i will no longer buy any of your products.

    No problem I respect your opinion...

    But I've been offering LED lighting upgrade kits and full customized pinball machines for years. I'm a small business as well. You have every right to buy anyone's products.

    There's lots of competition in this industry, from new game sales, pinball LEDs, vinyl graphics, custom machines, lighting effects, powder coating, upgraded speakers, general parts, custom painting and pinball restoration. Competition is what keeps everything strong in the market from better products to better prices, and not just in pinball but everything in America.

    I'm not here to make drama, so I hope you'll respect this...

    Thanks,

    Steve
    MI Pinball Refinery

    #22 1 year ago

    Capitalism. It works.

    Competition in the marketplace makes everyone better.

    #23 1 year ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    Why does it appear to have such a huge bow in the center? The Iron man image looks like you can fit your hand in there? Does the magnet secure only at the ends or are these just for example images. Also, is there any way to hide that cluster of wires in front of the apron or was that just for example images and there is a cover or something?

    I just temporary installed these lighting rail in these machines for pictures only. So they will be straight in your machine and the wires will route out the back side to hide them.

    #24 1 year ago
    Quoted from darcangeloel:

    Would these work with Gottlieb games? I was considering something like this for victory to make the center of the playfield a bit brighter.

    I don't know the power connections for a Gottlieb, but i can offer an external power supply to operate them, but there will be an addition cost about $15 to $20.

    Please let me know if you'd like a set....

    #25 1 year ago

    I played one of Steves refinery Metallica pros at a pinball show probably more than 3 years ago, he made the game look so stunning i would rather have one of his refinery pros than an Le from stern.

    #26 1 year ago

    This thread cost me some money this morning! Ordered a set of UV, and normal white. Going to do some experimenting, and except to be ordering more sets for the rest of my machines soon!

    #27 1 year ago

    Very nice Steve!

    #28 1 year ago

    Hey Steve, what about MMr? Any of these work for it?

    #29 1 year ago
    Quoted from jgentry:

    Hey Steve, what about MMr? Any of these work for it?

    Sure... I just need to know where to get a 12vdc power source in the machine and what the connector looks like. If you help me out I'll hook you up.

    #30 1 year ago

    Great why'd i open this, lol. Is there any discounts for multiple kits purchased at once? Im looking at picking up 4 or 5 kits with controllers. Even something like save the shipping like some venders do if you buy a lot at once?

    #31 1 year ago

    These are on sound controller for all 7 colors ... The sound controller has several modes including a single color which you can set and leave on.

    Why is there no explanation of this "sound controller"? I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't know what this is...

    Any elaboration on the other modes or what this controller actually does?

    #32 1 year ago

    I like these cuz I have a dumb phone and can't use the app with the other ones. I wish you offered a dimmable upgrade, you know one stop shopping and all.

    #33 1 year ago
    Quoted from MustangPaul:

    I wish you offered a dimmable upgrade, you know one stop shopping and all.

    +1

    #35 1 year ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    A few questions:
    Are the white $40 strips using WRGB led strips or just White ones?
    Is there anyway to control the brightness and/or color shade (if they are wrgb)?
    For the $95 color changing ones how would you set the shade you want if you want it always be a specific shade? Or is it just full red, blue, green, or white?

    To snswer your questions...

    The white version are RGB strips that I jumper all the colors together to make a white LED color. Its just easier this way. I would have to put them on a controller of some sorts to control them. I'm looking into this as well to allow them to be able to be dimmed. This will be a different controller all together for what I'm currently offering.

    Yes there are seveal modes to the sound controller that allow you to control the LEDs. So it will change the color if the controller hears something or you can have it fade between colors or just leave 7 different colors on full or your choice on all the time. But it does not have a brightness dimmer on it.

    #36 1 year ago
    Quoted from QuarterGrabber:

    Great why'd i open this, lol. Is there any discounts for multiple kits purchased at once? Im looking at picking up 4 or 5 kits with controllers. Even something like save the shipping like some venders do if you buy a lot at once?

    PM me and I'll see what I can do... I know you have purchased several mods from me and thank you for your support.

    #37 1 year ago
    Quoted from HighVoltage:

    Why is there no explanation of this "sound controller"? I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't know what this is...
    Any elaboration on the other modes or what this controller actually does?

    Heres a video on my sound controlled LEDs in a Metallica machine I did over 4 years ago... There are different modes but this video is only showing 1 of them.

    #38 1 year ago
    Quoted from HighVoltage:

    Why is there no explanation of this "sound controller"? I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't know what this is...
    Any elaboration on the other modes or what this controller actually does?

    Reminds me of a 70s color organ.

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    #39 1 year ago
    Quoted from HemiOrange09:

    I don't know the power connections for a Gottlieb, but i can offer an external power supply to operate them, but there will be an addition cost about $15 to $20.
    Please let me know if you'd like a set....

    Makes sense, would a 6v dc option be possible? Thay way I can tie it into the gi directly and get power and on off with the gi in one step. If you have any questions on how this would work pm me and I can explain it in more detail but that would make it pretty easy. I guess the other thing I could do is buy your kit and then simply switch out the 12v led strip for a 6v one. (For reference I am talking on the white only model). Great price on this product btw. This is very cool.

    #40 1 year ago

    Just bought one for my MM.

    #41 1 year ago
    Quoted from darcangeloel:

    Makes sense, would a 6v dc option be possible? Thay way I can tie it into the gi directly and get power and on off with the gi in one step. If you have any questions on how this would work pm me and I can explain it in more detail but that would make it pretty easy. I guess the other thing I could do is buy your kit and then simply switch out the 12v led strip for a 6v one. (For reference I am talking on the white only model). Great price on this product btw. This is very cool.

    I understand. Sorry, but no, I just don't like the lower voltage LEDs strips, so I am sticking with what works great and have use them for years. If you would like to change them to yours please send me a PM to talk more about this.

    Thanks,

    Steve
    MI Pinball Refinery

    #42 1 year ago

    Do you know if they are short enough to fit in a Safecracker?

    #43 1 year ago

    It's no different then going to Pinball Life, Marco etc...for your parts. PBR has been doing it way longer then any of them but people seem to forget that if they can save a few pennies some place else.

    Nice work Steve!!

    John

    #44 1 year ago

    So with your kits there is no issue when the machine turns on - the lights will be on without a second switch or anything necessary?

    #45 1 year ago
    Quoted from HemiOrange09:

    To snswer your questions...
    The white version are RGB strips that I jumper all the colors together to make a white LED color. Its just easier this way. I would have to put them on a controller of some sorts to control them. I'm looking into this as well to allow them to be able to be dimmed. This will be a different controller all together for what I'm currently offering.
    Yes there are seveal modes to the sound controller that allow you to control the LEDs. So it will change the color if the controller hears something or you can have it fade between colors or just leave 7 different colors on full or your choice on all the time. But it does not have a brightness dimmer on it.

    Thanks for quick response.

    My experience has been that you'll certainly want to be able to control the brightness somehow, even if it's a simple rotary dial under the PF somewhere.

    #46 1 year ago
    Quoted from oyvindmo:

    Do you know if they are short enough to fit in a Safecracker?

    I know that Safecracker is a little bit shorter so im not sure if a nornal one would fit.. If you let me know how long you would like them, I can just make them to that length for you... No problem.

    #47 1 year ago
    Quoted from wamonkey:

    So with your kits there is no issue when the machine turns on - the lights will be on without a second switch or anything necessary?

    No issues. It operates from the machine's power supply .

    #48 1 year ago
    Quoted from HemiOrange09:

    I know that Safecracker is a little bit shorter so im not sure if a nornal one woyld fit.. If you let me know how long you would like them, I can just make them to that length for you...

    Having taken a closer look, I'm starting to wonder if cabinet mounted lighting is a no-go on Safecracker. At least on mine, there is really no_ clearance between the ramp assembly and the cabinet on the right side. While lifting, it's possible to wiggle right-to-left a bit, but the total clearance (left+right) is only about 1/8". Are the magnet strips thin enough that it will work?

    Anyway, a suitable length would be 25-26".

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    #49 1 year ago

    You guys bring up a good point and one i forgot to ask. How do you raise and lower the playfield with these installed? Don't they get in the way?

    #50 1 year ago
    Quoted from QuarterGrabber:

    You guys bring up a good point and one i forgot to ask. How do you raise and lower the playfield with these installed? Don't they get in the way?

    You'll have to unplug them and remove them from the machine when servicing it. They are easily removed and reattched from the magnet mounts...

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