Shit in it and send it back...?

Never buy a used machine if you're worried about the health risks, almost all of them have had mice in them. Stick to new ones and you don't have to worry about this.

No it's not, it's just the first you've noticed animal waste inside.

I totally agree out of all the machines I have purchased over the years which were mostly all used and mostly routed machines I have had one that`s right one that had mice/rat feces and urine in it. It was a partyzone that I purchased at a roller rink that was kept in a shed outside next to a restaurant. That made sense...Not sure if the seller kept this machine in outside storage or what the issue was but I would be pissed if it was misrepresented as shopped cleaned inside and out.

That sucks

Now if you were talking about cigarette smoke and tar stains on the machine I could get on board with seeing many machines come off location with that issue.

Since only one has sold lately and the pics show the same speaker bolts, I'll assume it's this one:

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/129839

Since the poop isn't visible in the pics, could that have happened in shipping?

LOL - I've found two dead mice underneath the plastics on my old Xenon. Complete with decomposed gore stain.
Straight up Battery acid inside a cabinet along with damage it done.
Pack of cigarettes, Roaches both insect and nefarious kind.

Found a hundo once inside coin box with a couple rolls of quarters duct taped into con box on a game I got for
free and just had to get out of a garage.

Rat droppings, garbage, soda can, snake skin. Soda that must of been 20 years old that was just a bunch of goo.
More gum that any person need ever scrape off.

This is common stuff.. Think there is a whole thread on it.

Oh yeah now what.. Vacuum it out with a shop vac. Consider yourself lucky not to have found dead mice or living ones.

The WORST thing that can happen.. TERMITES> That shit its bad news

Everything else looks good on the game tbh

Man I guess because I bought all my used machines over the years out of locations and viewed them prior to sale is maybe why I dodged a bunch of this stuff...Never bought old machines sight unseen or got a barn find. LOL

These days most of the "Deals" are long gone and people paying to much for Pinball machines that haven't even been fully shopped, half working and not worth anything remotely what you paid.

If this was listed as Shopped, restored or something I'd raise an eyebrow but for most of us folks business as usual.

First thing I do when I get a new project or game is vacuum out the game and see what I might find inside. Usually couple fuses, tones of dust, wax residue, metallic shavings and all matter of bulbs. Once in awhile you find a part or two .

Search on Pinside bites.. Can't find the Thread on "Worst" thing you found in a game..

I totally agree with this statement But click the link and read the seller details of the machine...thats why the OP is upset.

Rightfully so.

The droppings in the photo look pretty well dried out. They don't look like fresh droppings that would appear during a few days/weeks of transit.

Just keep in mind that they could have come from *anywhere* in the machine before it was tipped up on end for shipping. The reason you're seeing them all piled up in the back is because that's where they fell.

Official CDC guidelines for clean-up: https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/cleaning/index.html

I disagree. I'm a project game hunter, and I've only seen mouse droppings in a small handful of games--usually just the ones that were neglected and forgotten and stored in garages, warehouses, etc.

I've never seen droppings in games that were kept in homes, or in games that were shopped/restored.

If I had to guess, maybe this was a quick fix & flip?

Doubt it… the cabinet shows swelling in the exact same spots. That being said, if the OP of this post purchased this machine from the seller on here (just assuming, not saying he did) the seller marked it “not sold on Pinside”…. So there may be a pattern of character behaviors here.

You may want to PM Robin on here to let him know the sale was via Pinside.

As far as recourse goes, this looks like old damage. I would just vacuum it out and call it a day. I would also leave appropriate feedback for the seller to let others know what they may expect dealing with him.

Buyer just confirmed that's the one. So yeah, he's a douchebag. Didn't pay my selling fees and lied.

The seller may need those fees for an exterminator. If you look at his pics, those white droppings are on his floor, and the rats are so hungry they are eating his baseboard trim….. LOLOL

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This happens often. I’ve seen games “professionally restored” and games “fully shopped” by pinsiders and still find mouse droppings in them. Sometimes it feels like people just don’t care.
I’ve never let it bother me. Pinball machines are perfect shelters for mice. Recently saw a machine that was in great shape, stored for just a couple months and already had a mouse nest! They work very fast.

If mouse droppings and urine bother you, NEVER EAT OUT AT A RESTAURANT. Believe whatever you want. I’ve worked in all manner of places. Every single one has mice. And they get in everything, even the coolers.

A friend of mine rolled on a desirable game. Bought new. Been in the home for many years. Game powered partially up.

My friend wanted to open it up. The seller didn't know you could remove the lockdown bar and glass.

When he started to lift the playfield mice started hopping out. He dropped the playfield. And left.

LTG : )

Damn burn that house down

It was probably a Mousin' Around, totally fine.

Yeah I’d agree. Really not a big deal and you don’t have to call in a hazmat team. Just vacuum it with a shop vac and clean any areas you are freaked out about with some mean green or something.

It sucks, and I'd be pretty pissed (especially if I paid anywhere near $5K for that thing and how it was advertised), but it’s not the end of the world as long as there’s no chewed wires or any recent / current activity.

if your going to clean it yourself, I would highly recommend wearing goggles and a mask. Rat/mice feces/urine etc can carry some weird ass viruses. No need to go there and catch something weird.