Yes I bought some last week and put a couple in my TOM where the bulbs are turned sideways. They lit the inserts well. Very happy with rhe result as the other bulbs where not lighting the insert well.
I have not tried them elsewhere yet but plan to try some in bigger inserts.

The whites are too friggin bright, colors should be good though. As a GI in white, they are brighter than cointakers supers.

Check out the overview:
"When too bright is not bright enough"

I just ordered a bunch of these for my Demo Man shop project. We will see how bright they are when the machine is put back together

Love it, go Terry!

I am curious how bright the yellow ones are. Yellow is usually on the dimmer side with LEDs.

--Scott

Nice, guess I need to spend some more money on LED's! I was wondering if Terry was going to bring on some new LED's...now we just need him to get new flashers that put off light in all directions.

Looks good! Will have have to grab a few on my next order

Gotta try these. I'm hooked on CT's supers and high intensities. Total LED whore.

Great news.

LOL. You're not alone my friend.

*raises hand in LED Anonymous meeting*

I have an LED question. On my tron I did orange on one side and blue on the other. The blue tends to be a bit more brighter then the orange. There both CT's super brights. Any suggestions on replacing the orange with a brighter orange? They are 44's. Does any1 know if Pinballlife's double or tripple or even the quad be brighter? My guess is the quad might be overkill. Or i could just try out the quad in both colors. Yes im an LED whore myself.

Not only that, but Ablaze line is missing a good GI LED as well. As far as I'm concerned, the only LEDs that I have seen on the market that are suitable replacements are the cointaker warm or cool white frosteds. The transluscent white dome does a FANTASTIC job of throwing light out the sides, and they're just a bit brighter than the normal 44. If I had a single complaint, and I'm really nitpicking here, it would be that the "warm" white is just a little cooler on the color temperature than an incandescent, but it's still a massive improvement over any other LED for GI.

I put the warm whites all up in my Stargate under the PITA-to-get-to areas at the top of the playfield, game looks amazing. I wish I had picked up a hundred of them instead of 20 at TPF.

To be fair, I have and do use Ablaze LEDs for most of my insert applications. Dunno what I'm going to do with STTNG though, there are a ton of sockets that are completely parallel to the playfield to light inserts. I may just try the colored frosted again since they throw so much light out the side!

Try these mothers on the orange side.
http://shop.cointaker.com/category.sc;jsessionid=DF4F149990BBB3475735C4B58CB54284.qscstrfrnt01?categoryId=46

Wow and at .89, you can't go wrong. Please someone review these in relation to super brites. I love CT, but they are expensive. I've spent a lot of money with them, but always welcome competition. Haven't tried their premiums, but no ghosting or flicker sounds great.

I agree, Ablaze is missing LEDs for GI.

The best LEDs I have seen for GI are Cointakers Warm White Retro LEDs. If Ablaze made these I could then get all of my LEDs from Terry!

--Scott

I'm looking to led out FT...I may have to order the 4 fish colors from a few different kinds of led's and see how they look. Need pic comparisons...if they show up ok on film.

I Don't see those going behind no back glass.. Spot on Big Tyme..
Why am I here , I'm a Cointaker Fan !! But i had to lOOK ..

I'm still waiting on them to offer a warm white.

Tried the Retros, didn't like them personally where the bulb is directly visible. =\ I'm sure they're fine under plastics. They're not overly bright, just my personal preference that I feel they're too bright when in direct line of sight.

I just did mine and it is brilliant. A good mix of Ablaze and Cointakers. As soon as I get a connector fixed I'll take pics for you. I used Ablaze regulars for all small inserts. Oranges, as mentioned, run a bit dimmer so CT superbrights work well to match intensity. For the large inserts, I used Cointaker 5 high power, matching fish color of course. The purple feeding frenzy arrows are amazing looking with the 5HPs.

As a side note, yellow LEDs are less intense as well so I've been using soft whites behind yellow inserts and it looks great.

Interesting.. Thank you.

I'd like to brim a few EM machines.

I for sure want to see pics

On the contrary, I think the Ablaze 3-LEDs often work great under the slings and other plastics.

Cointaker flex supers are the answer to your prayers.

+100

Also for FT, You'll do yourself well to get the patched updated U6 rom. It will minimize LED ghosting.

I went Ablaze 3-LED on mine everywhere except behind the time warp targets since it was blinding me during normal play, I went frosted single there. The backbox I used frosted singe LED except on the Borg beam I used blue and it really pops. I also color matched all inserts. It looks amazing overall. I like the GI and flashers to be as bright as I can get on this game and it really looks cool when the Borg hits your shields and everything flashes. Between those, the upgraded base speakers, and the shaker, when you take a direct hit, your really get the full effect of it.

I bet you would..........

Good to know. I was thinking about those, but I've never had any of them! I will give them a shot.

My complaint with Ablaze in GI is that they don't throw light out to the SIDES of the playfield like an incandescent would. I have some 3-led ones in my Space Shuttle under plastics. The light doesn't go out to the middle of the playfield, and the lighting under the plastics is "spotlight-y". It's like the light just drops off right outside of the S-H-U-T-T-L-E letters. It's hard to illustrate with pictures, because I don't have a non-digital camera. =\

*edit* Now who can hook me up with the rom patch?

Super brights are extremely directional and not good for GI. Never use them there. Try using the frosted 44 for GI. It radiates light much better. Cointaker does not have a good orange in my opinion. The best for orange gi is the orange double bright. But it's still not optimal. Maybe try a couple of those.

And guys for the sockets that are sideways under the insert, get the flex super bright bulbs. These let you insert the bulb then point it however you need it.

The orange does not look bad. Its just in person the blue on the right stands out a bit more. Take a look. They are all 44's super brights.

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I need to take some pics for you. I used cointaker's flex supers in my sttng, probably 80% of them are flex. I've seen this machine poorly done with leds, inserts barely lit, etc with regular leds. But with flexes, I was able to shine the led to fill the entire insert for every led. If you want, I can take some pics. Came out really nice.

True, and this is why a lot of people like to add spotlights to games where they have converted the GI to LEDs. It's a good way to compensate for the darker playfield resulting from the LEDs.

I bought a LED kit for my BSD from Cointaker and it looks nice. I have Pinball Life Led's in My Congo And W?D and I prefer the Pinball life Led's personally. I hear alot of people mix and match from both companies.

Depends on the insert. They're not good for larger inserts, but under small ones they are great. I have my Cyclone entirely superbrighted except for the five "clown face" inserts just above the flippers and it looks stellar.

Sure, I'm about to go over it tonight and put together a LED list.

Anybody know if these put out any heat? The Cointaker Ultra's do put out a little heat, but they are worth it if you need blazing color. Just curious if these are like that due to their output.

At the show I bought a bunch of those LED's they said don't flicker when you replace the bulbs that dim on and off. I hope they work...

I bought a bunch of these in different colors last week to give them a try. To answer your question RobT, they put out almost 'exactly' the amount of light as the identical color CT Ultra's. I've always been a huge fan of Cointaker's product, however, since this discovery I plan to buy from PBL whenever I am looking for this kind of light output. I should also mention that I compared colors between the two brands and they appear almost identical as well. As far as 'bang for the buck' is concerned, PBL's for the win.

I forgot to mention that PBL's 4-LED are significantly shorter than CT's ultra offering. Not sure if that matters to you all, but when I used them for GI, they were almost flush with the playfield on my Stern game (Tron LE) and were flush on the one Gottlieb I own. (Freddy) They may be a bit more difficult to remove when the time comes, but again, for the price they are an excellent product.

I mix and match. I usually spend some time when I get a machine and go through and try them to see what looks best. I find the warm minis from CT work in clear or yellow inserts. They aren't as bright so they end up having somewhat of the same intensity as the CT supers or the Ablaze 3lites.

Terry's prices are hard to beat; besides he's just a great guy.

I always recommend stopping by his place. Free pinball. I need a handful of bulbs but I'm still going to swing by next week so I can play his AC/DC machine.

Chris

+1.

Use your creative eye and have enough spares on hand to do some swapping. I use both PBL and CT in all my machines and I couldn't be happier. Of course this doesn't work if you're counting bulbs/inserts and ordering exactly what you need. You need a surplus of styles/colors to play around with. This occurred naturally for me as I swapped out LEDs early on. I have one of those bead divider trays from a craft store full of extras to mess with now. Make sure you mark NG LEDs as they look exactly like the regular Ablaze. The rest are easy to tell apart between the two brands.

+1

http://www.pinballcenter.eu/catalog/ba9s-noflix-led-blue-superflux-p-19.html?language=english
enough said

...or double down:

http://www.pinballcenter.eu/catalog/ba9s-noflix-plus-blue-superflux-p-2687.html?language=english

I wonder how these would do for the GI in Judge Dredd would like to make those nice and bright since the are sideways under the playfield