Why would some new company try to make burned jpop customers whole?
How do you make money building pins if you have to give the first 200 away for free?
I mean,it would be wonderful?
But this stuff just doesn't happen in real life.
I would still like to receive my aiw too after the brutal burn by zidware.
But even a pinball loving, friend of jpop billionaire wouldn't do this?
I admit though that the row of mg cabs is more than strange..but could be a lure?
On the other hand maybe jpop has been busy behind the curtains full time to try and correct this and make customers whole..
I truly believe he absolutely does not want to go down in history like he is going at the moment with this current wikipedia page and stuff.
Everybody says he should apologize and stuff but...
Try talking with an angry mob like pinside, i would take shelter too..don't get me wrong, it was justified anger, but everything exploded..
only pinballs in everybodys hands can earn some respect back and he will change the script that way.
Realistically, i think it is not going to happen,but you know what, i really hope it happens.
He was my favorite designer and him turning my and other peoples money to poop sucked so f@€king hard.
But hypothetically speaking, if they want Houdini pinball to fill the cash register with the promise(mg cabinets picture lure)to make old zidware buyers whole, people could get burned again?
If Houdini sells low numbers 'cause of jpops rep, the whole thing will come down like flying shit.
Then we have magic girl buyers, raza buyers , alice buyers and houdini buyers all losing their money.
Bottom line, i find it hard to believe this will work.

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Oh right...overlooked that...only 16 mg's
But still questionable, why would they?

Says a dude that owns 1 dracula

True, but if you make mg owners whole, the angry raza mob is standing next in line?
What are your thiughts on that then?

hey?! Houdini poster, was that in zidware headquarters? Man that is crazy

You are blah...
The cv acrobats shot is about skill,the machine asks you during gameplay if you have the skills to master it but appearantly you don't.
As an aiw buyer i would like to hate the popadiuk pins and sell them..but unfortunately they rock.
So i still have them all.
These themes are majestic and well excecuted.
You can piss on everything jpop did,but he is an awesome designer( that needs a team of people that restrain him to get stuff done )

I was messing you dude,check the emoticon

and it's quite telling that he's the only oldschool WMS designer that did NOT get hired or contracted in some form by Stern or JJP.

Ah that is a good point indeed...
Still i feel sorry for your bad taste
I own a bunch of stern LE's and they just don't do me like a good old bally, they just feel rock solid.
My cv is still as i bought it 5 years ago...i don't wax or clean it because it plays like a million bucks.
Owned the jjp's, did nothing for me.

To me, there is nothing more satisfying than hitting the acrobats shot dead on,so hard,that the wire ramp has a hard time keeping the ball on there..

Don't let anybody tell you that!
Dracula is awesome.

Yes! It is real !

I was afraid it was a fake company website that some troll made..pinside seems to attract a lot of them.

Man,i am so happy Magic Girl buyers are receiving something for their lost money!
It was such a brutal situation..

Give AP a break, hold your breath for a few months.

If this is happening, it is close to a miracle?

Stop the negativity and everybody that is not an aiw , raza or mg buyer, don't post,it doesn't matter what you think.
You just like fueling fires.
People lost their asses( incl me) let AP do their thing and follow progress in a positive way.

Stop throwing poop at them,do you throw poop at somebody on the street that you don't know?

(The answer is no btw)

Yeah watch out for those super tough pinsiders,they will point their finger at you when you ain't looking.
Some might even Whisper something from the other side of the room

gave it some thought, i want one...this is exactly the crazy layout i like.
you know,for all the years waiting,negativity and misery, it is only fair to finally have a machine?
what? because of all the crap i should not buy from this company?
i think it is fair for me to have a machine,just like the mg owners.
plus i have some zidware credit too,i might just make a good deal.

I can't believe you own a 1986 Raven

And you want to own a 1980 embryo

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Hm, you know stuff dude...send me a pm, i won't gossip,tell me what's up over there!

And ted has spoken!
Can't agree more.

I am gonna start a new thread with this quote as the title...brilliant.
That is deep bro..

It also isn't hard to ship a pinball to europe Ben.
Followed every step of america's most haunted from early on in the ben heck show,and i was one of the first to contact spooky and order one.
But apparantly your games are only for Americans.
I would line up all your games in my gameroom and be in the market for all oncoming titles.
But no machines for the pinballrockstar..
So AP certainly has my attention,they will ship worldwide?
Concerning AP,you don't have to talk them down,you have a good rep.
It makes you look bad if you throw mud at them.
You are a rockstar at programming,don't take cheap shots at AP.
If you are convinced of your own powers,you don't have to.
Be a gentleman about it,you usually are.
Ship me a AMH,or i will buy a Houdini..and that is a serious threath!

Yeah,true..can't argue on that.

Yeah you are right...lost my focus for a bit...but still think you should convince spooky to ship international.
Now i might end up with a box of lights instead of a Spooky title.
Listen to your conscience Ben...that would be the saddest thing.
I am your biggest european fan and i can't buy these pins?
It sucks
We don't even have the ben heck show over here,we have to buy ben heck show dvd's from shady people in a creepy alley.

But nobody wants to be my buddy whysnow..
I have no friends in the usa...can we be friends?
I will totally be your buddy!

Well sounds like a plan?
I already shipped a rare "jolly park" from spinball to the usa..so i have experience in that department.
Sent it by plane,went smooth as hell.
It would be even cooler if we made a network of pinheads in a new topic.
Try to get as many people on board as we can all over the map and we can help eachother out to ship pins globally.

Yeah..weird!

Zid 5 if you include kiss,that was actually just as far along as the rest

you never had a cirqus voltaire nor another jpop title.

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Lol everybody goes medieval on me...i love this forum
If i don't add an emoticon,it must be an attack!! Hahaha
Have a sense of humour people, relax.
I love every jpop machine too wizard mode!
Very hard situation,cause i hate what jpop did to me.
But i still cannot sell my jpop machines and i simply want all the new titles with his layout,i really really like the low dmd and goofy layouts.
Can't help myself.
Did you get to join the cirqus already in the arcade? Must be nearly impossible on 3 balls.
My machine is set on 10 balls so i have the time to get there

But maybe Ben,John send the letter to us all , because he did not have enough cash anymore to build ALL the machines, but maybe there is enough cash left to build SOME machines..
Totally speculating,but he can't be at $0 in his account?
He's not that stupid?
Is he?

Aiw 133 units

Nevermind,

Well well well...positive news on pinside.

'bsolutely

Yeah..he has to work 183 years as a designer for AP to pay them back

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We all feel that way...but i've been hoping since the meltdown and i am still hoping.
Maybe i am somewhat too excited, but i want to receive something for my $

It looks awesome and i want it.
No Dialing in, no batman66 and no alien for me.
7k for a very cool houdini machine.

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Sooo anyone heard something about ap/jp?

Know me....you will believe.

Man...imagine getting your 16000 back after all this time...wow

Oh...that is epic and fucking funny from every angle..

Man this is taking forever,new MG delays again...
Stop trying to build a row of machines,that appears to be too hard.
Just start building one pinball machine so there is 1 thing to show...
Send one dude this machine and we have frontpage news.
Build 1 pinball machine,just one

Hahaha this should not be in a lineup?!
Silly man..
This is a work of art,meant for your living room.