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New Game Houdini? Just Announced by American Pinball.

By RickThorn

7 years ago


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Post #2532 American pinball is advertising in pinball life orders Posted by DennisK (7 years ago)

Post #2768 Press Release from American Pinball before TPF 2017 Posted by unigroove (7 years ago)

Post #2820 video of game reveal at TPF Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2829 TPF gameplay video (short) Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2831 Photo of Houdini backbox/translite Posted by 1iblind (7 years ago)

Post #2839 more short Houdini gameplay video from TPF Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2841 Video of Houdini catapult toy in action Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2851 Price confirmed as $6995 from sources at TPF Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #3006 A quick review of TPF reactions. Posted by rosh (7 years ago)

Post #3050 Some history of Houdini leading up to TPF from rosh Posted by rosh (7 years ago)


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#1833 7 years ago

What was with the "project manager"? What happened there? I'm guessing that was much ado about nothing just like the crap about all the other people coming aboard.

"Hopefully he will fit in"... LOL... Kind of wondering if he finally came to his senses and realized it was he that never fit in and is turning a new humble leaf with AP... doubtful...

1 week later
#1964 7 years ago

The games are beautiful / gorgeous, and spectacular! ... The build quality looks to be spon on.

How close did they let you get? ANNNNDDDD.....

DOES IT FLIP????????

#2234 7 years ago
Quoted from Mbecker:

Is there a link to the ap talk? They did a talk right? Curious where it came out that they were now trying to distance themselves from John?

It's been reported that questions about RAZA, AIW, money owed to others, etc were all diverted to Zidware / John. They made it clear that John is just a consultant / contractor and that's where the relationship ends. Your earlier speculation about MG manufacture for services, or something along those lines seems likely. But I don't recall if they clearly came out and stood behind MG delivery. It sounds like a solid maybe to me.

#2235 7 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Zidware is all over the Houdini machine. Anyone thinking this machine was not at least partially paid by the use of Zidware customers, is living in a fantasy world. This is from John and was always in the works far before AP came on the scene. John was talking to me about it years ago.

I'll ask, since everyone is wondering. Any further contact with AP after their mysterious calls? We're wondering if there might have been and that might have something to do with their "reduced" unveil.

No, not really expecting an answer, but it had to be asked...

#2329 7 years ago
Quoted from SadSack:

Everybody is saying Pintasia/wcbrandes bought the "rights" to JPOP's designs, but do we know if they are exclusive rights or just a "license" to use the IP? Or does he actually own the copyrights?

Almost certainly something more than non-exclusive rights, otherwise why would AP lawyers be contacting Brandes.

Quoted from TigerLaw:

I just don't see Bill stopping Magic Girls from being made for those that had been paid in.
If AP was only going to make the 25 of them and no more does anyone really think Bill would say no or demand compensation?

I don't know, mum's the word from him, so seems like something could be up. It sounds like he threw significant $$$ at the effort and wouldn't surprise me and I wouldn't blame him at all if he wanted some of that back if some of the IP or rights are legally his.

2 months later
#2653 7 years ago

... The rumors are true, we have started fresh, from the ground up, with our new team ...

OK, not surprising, kind of follows with their distancing from JPOP and likely legal snafu with "inherited" IP...

...
We appreciate everyone's support & interest in the progress related to Magic Girl and how American Pinball is supporting Zidware with the manufacturing of the machines.
...

Unexpected and perplexing that this is still on the table...

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