Pass the popcorn please

ok ... my 2 worthless cents.....

I have no skin in the game .. didn't lose money on JJP but have been following it since the inception as I was intrigued.

Going forward I am going to give AP the benefit of the doubt.
Zidware is bust and gone.... in business you can buy the assets another company that is in debt, bankrupt, etc .... without taking over any of their debt, money, or products owed. AP could have went this route very easily. They could of paid JP as a consultant and kept it hush. My guess is they will lose money making and providing MG games to the original purchasers but they are doing it to generate good will, which if they pull it off may be worth more than they lose on those machines.

I say put the pitchforks away until you see the outcome that is transpiring. Those that had lost money to JPOP, what do you have to loose?
I understand the (to quote the Donald) "Huge" hate for JPOP. He dangled carrots in front of you and convinced you to give up your hard earned cash for something that he was just not capable of producing. We can debate until we die what his original intentions were, but that won't get you a machine or your money back. The best chance I have seen in years is AP.

I truly hope AP can make it right for the victims involved. I quite honestly hope JPOP is behind AP pushing them to make things right.
I say give them a chance, what do you have to lose.....

They are referring to the color temp. not the hue

Yes, that's how it legally works in the business world. AP has done nothing wrong. They legally owe pre-order customers nothing, so it's some super goodwill that they are trying to make good on pre-orders.

Why would there not be support here?
AP has dug the JPOP shit storm out of the ashes, resurrected what was thought long gone forever, and has said that they will honor all MG orders. Why would you not at least support that and give them the benefit of the doubt. What is there left to lose? Who knows how far away it is from happening? Let's give them a shot to make it right. If it turns out they can't produce ... nothing lost at this point except for hope.
Nobody shit on Bill when he tried to make it right, why all the crap slug at AP?

Yes, from what I understand Fraudulent Conveyance is a transfer of money or property to avoid debt. I think in this case any transfer seems to be done to provide buyers with what they purchased and not to delay or hinder payment of goods. But if you like lawsuits, go into a long costly legal battle with hopes of recovering something from JPOP. And when you win, you still have to try and collect. Or give AP a chance to make someone else's mess right and give you the machine you at one time wanted. I don't really care either way, I'm gonna wait and see what AP does. So far, looks like they have made some decent progress.

Consumer always benefits from competition .... best of luck to AP

It can only drive prices up if customers are willing to pay those prices and obviously in pinball they are

Based on what analysis?

Again, based on what analysis? Your privy to their financials?
You know their production, labor, overhead, and marketing costs.. Etc.
How much are you so kindly letting stern profit on their machines?

I still do thnk the whole application process is odd, but not my company.

I don't understand all the hate towards AP.

When Bill set up Pintasia to try and resurrect the games - He hired JPOP as a consultant.
I don't remember anybody shitting on Pintasia at all.
Everybody was grateful for his effort.

Seems like AP is giving it a shot and has made progress - so why all the hate???

website sill up when i checked.
http://www.american-pinball.com/