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New Game Houdini? Just Announced by American Pinball.

By RickThorn

7 years ago


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Post #2532 American pinball is advertising in pinball life orders Posted by DennisK (7 years ago)

Post #2768 Press Release from American Pinball before TPF 2017 Posted by unigroove (7 years ago)

Post #2820 video of game reveal at TPF Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2829 TPF gameplay video (short) Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2831 Photo of Houdini backbox/translite Posted by 1iblind (7 years ago)

Post #2839 more short Houdini gameplay video from TPF Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2841 Video of Houdini catapult toy in action Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #2851 Price confirmed as $6995 from sources at TPF Posted by Khabbi (7 years ago)

Post #3006 A quick review of TPF reactions. Posted by rosh (7 years ago)

Post #3050 Some history of Houdini leading up to TPF from rosh Posted by rosh (7 years ago)


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#2430 7 years ago
Quoted from PinSinner:

I just can't understand how they didn't do their due diligence before making such claims.

Pinball is hard?

It really is mind blowing. They basically had a map with all the warning signs highlighted, but they chose not to read it...

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#2726 7 years ago
Quoted from Nelly:

Why? This makes no sense to me. AP was approached by John to contract out the build of MG in exchange for his services on Houdini. They unknowingly get caught up in a JPOP shit storm and are now in a position where they probably want nothing to do with him and have two choices.
1) Go back on their word and don't produce MG. IMO this option does not make them look good and more like a business you cant trust.
2) Finish what they were contracted to do and deliver MG and move on with their lives without JPOP. The second option would show that they are a true company that stands behind their word and are a company capable of producing a game.
AP has ZERO obligation to address RAZA and AIW owners because they have not been contracted to do so. Those are JPOP's games and if AP is to produce them it would take JPOP contracting them to do so. After what John has done for their start up so far, I'd be floored if they would even consider it. Sure early on they made mention of the possibilities of addressing those games down the road, but that was before I think they knew how tainted John really was in the pinball community. If you are a RAZA or AIW owner, don't be mad if they only make MG. It is, after all, their only real obligation that was contracted through them with JPOP.
We all really need to try and stand behind these guys and look at AP for what it is. A company that wants to produce pinball machines. A company that, if successful, will be offering people around the world another option when choosing their next machine. Another option for when you're sick of bitching about Stern's ghosting inserts or unfinished code. Another option for when the JJP pin you've had on order for the last year and a half still hasn't arrived. Another option for (insert any other overblown pinside rant here), Etc. I think we need to be positive and do all we can to help AP succeed. Because more options will be good for the hobby in more ways than one.

I don't think many people are rubbing their hands with glee hoping AP will fail, but in choosing to work with JPOP for a year or so, NOT realizing there was a problem (when the record is clear as day on that one), THEN promising the sun and moon for the end of 2016... and only THEN realizing they were completely screwed... makes most people rate their chances of success as being "small". Pinball is hard after all.

And I echo the sentiment above, JPoP has not made a playing game from scratch in how long? Zizzle era probably. For all the smoke and mirrors alleged in the Predator thread, SkitB had a functioning game, produced parts, and had a number of other functioning one-offs. And considering those guys were screw-up's, AND were able to get that much done, where does that put John? New verbiage might need to be created.

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