Quoted from delt31:

I love how pinball pushes pinball. No announcement and now jjp responds day of stern.
Typically jjp though always in the response role
God forbid they actually led for once. They slept on the opportunity so hopefully they announce soon. Despite a lot of the old guys not caring, stern will be making A lot of that pinball money with tmnt so jjp better wake the F up

Quoted from drfrightner:

Looks like one podcaster who said GNR won't be released until late July was wrong. I said the game will be revealed in June and who knows maybe even May still. This whole idea that it's going to take months to ramp up production is ridiculous. They didn't plan this move sleeping on it... this was probably months maybe even a year in works.
Bring on Paradise City!
Lets see... Guns N Roses vs TMNT. The turtles might as hell hide in their shell because that game looks like its for 5 year olds. NO THANKS!

Quoted from Goronic:

Also...for operators it would probably be nice to check audits, and get notifications of mechanical issues - or needs service.
For home use, having connectivity for code updates, scores, etc would be a nice improvement. Not sure what else WiFi could do - and maybe has nothing to do with their innovation announcement anyway.
The innovation is likely something really cool in GnR ...

Quoted from Goronic:

Not sure if they are going there or not, but I am confident that JJP will allow you to turn off things like that.

Quoted from Crile1:

Oh please NO! Imagine advertising spamming your game screen. Would be like an app that makes you wait 10--20 seconds watching an advert so you can get an extra ball or for a few more points.

Quoted from zucot:

Not sure I trust JJP innovation actually coming through as promised after the stuff they stripped out of POTC.

Quoted from TheLaw:

If you're in the JJPOTC cult then yes.

Quoted from konghusker:

I honestly disagree. Yeah it didn’t show anything in detail, but let’s be honest, when you think of who will innovate or wow you, you think of jjp first. What this video did was it made me pause. I was all in on tmnt, and I’ve been seriously excited to see it for a year or so, but gnr is my favorite band, and it was also long awaited. After seeing tmnt, not being blown away, yet still wanting one I was ready to order my premium. The video then hit, and I remember why I love jjp games more than others. With a huge gnr theme, and Eric designing it, I can’t help but want to see it before deciding between the two. So, yeah, it worked and I thought it was simple, yet great.

Quoted from metallik:

Ehh, not so much anymore. Wonka brought nothing new to the table. Their in-game camera was innovative when it came out and Keith has cranked out some really cool rules and software, but look at the last couple games: Pirates got cost-reduced into mediocrity and Wonka is also pretty vanilla (but it does shoot well).
Also, innovation is good but Elwin's JP proves you can put together a great playing game without flashy new toys or technology.
Looking forward to whatever JJP comes out with.. competition is always good.

Quoted from metallik:

Yea, I did. Its a wide shooter and I didn't find the ramps and regular playfield shots to be really satisfying to hit. Playing the rocking upper playfield was the best part of the game from a shooting perspective. I was heavily into starting modes til I realized each one was just "shoot the lit shots one time each." I then worked on the multiballs and put together a game where I got through most of them, supposedly close to a wizard mode?
And then.. that's it. I've shot the cannon and got pretty good at the UPF and seen all the multiballs (except the wizard mode) and I'm kinda over the game now. What am I missing? Don't get me wrong, the game is certainly fun, but just not as fun as I was expecting.

Quoted from metallik:

Wonka a better theme than Iron Maiden? To each their own
Wonka shoots smooth as butter, I'll give it that.

Quoted from RTS:

That cannon shot is cool and well implemented, but it's not innovative at all.
Been done many times before. Probably missing a bunch, but you can find that technology used in the following:
Sega Star Wars
Terminator 2
AC DC
STTNG
Dirty Harry
TWD premium
Austin Powers
Batman Forever

Quoted from JY64:

I will never understand why people would pay extra for a LE game even with a run of 500

Quoted from freeplay3:

I was watching Breaking the Band on GnR. It said Axel threw a tantrum before a really big concert and refused to go on stage unless Slash and another member signed over the band to him, basically making them employees. Shortly after that is when everyone left the band. I dont think Slash is in a position to give the rights to anyone. He may be working with JJP to get Axel to give them what they need.

Quoted from freeplay3:

50 lbs. You are being too kind...I will admit I am very happy there are no pics of me from 88 and 2020 side by side. People would assume my 2020 picture was the guy who ate the 1988 guy in the picture
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Quoted from delt31:

Wonka owner..... One of the best shooters, code is the let down just bc it's so damn confusing.... One of the best use of the backbox screens though...highly underrated.. Theme is what keeps it around but it might be swapped once GnR comes out

Quoted from JamCat:

I mean have some actual flow to the elements of the theme, rather than putting them in a dice cup and dumping them out on the playfield and connecting them with random tasks. For instance, in the movie, each kid had a unique journey and side story on finding their golden ticket and also had their own unique experience within the factory. Each golden ticket could have been associated with one of the five kids and the modes, multiballs, and tasks associated with each ticket, could have focused on elements of that kid’s experience finding their ticket and their experience in the factory. That would give a framework and “formula” to put the movie scenes and callouts into context, without them seeming random and like a slot machine. Then you could have sound in the movie clips, since they would match what you were playing for at the time they were shown. Theme integration like that would have led to better mechs as well, such as a pipe ball lock, Eggdicator, or gum dispenser, rather than just a spinning gobstopper.
But instead the kids were tied into one sideshow multiball associated with the same golden ticket. Then some generic gobstopper jackpots for another ticket, and the one random gumball ticket that you just get out of thin air after playing long enough. It’s just so random that I can see why people complain about the monotony of the callouts and random showing of movie scenes with no sound. There is no framework to guide the callouts and movie scenes so they can’t polish the code to make it better.
It’s not a bad game as it is, if you don’t think about the movie, but it could have been so much better that I don’t want to own it. Those that do like it, probably don’t have an attachment to the movie like some of us do, is my guess.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

I just want it to be over with so I can hope for a better title on the next one. Stern should have done gnr... JJP will just screw it up. Toy story or something similar is more JJP style.

Quoted from Jackontherocks:

That said, I hope GNR is a speed/flow game. I don't think JJP has done one yet, yes that’s what I want as well on this one. Not played Wonka which I hear has it.

Quoted from Hazoff:

Well that's just stupid. Whats the advantage to not letting people see at least the PF art?

Quoted from JY64:

So they are shipping 30 Wonkas hardly news

Quoted from JY64:

No it does not show that things are up and running although I believe that they are. The 30 units could just as well been games they had in their inventory that was needed by a distributor. Do you really believe that the factory keeps no game in stock

Quoted from wesman:

I was thinking that also. So most likely these are newly produced games, of some kind.
They have to have been up and running for a month now, no?

Quoted from Yelobird:

Why would you assume That? Distributors a technically just customers. Just because they have inventory built doesn't mean they have to buy it. JJP Jersey was an assembly inventory facility for stock. I am certain they moved inventory like any company that builds a product.