Why is written « jersey jack pinball » in your profile?

You're an amazing asset this community. Thank you sir for all of your contributions!

Because I do tech support for Jersey Jack Pinball.

And there isn't room for Planetary Pinball Supply, or Chicago Gaming Company.

I own an arcade. SS Billiards, in Hopkins, MN. I work from there. Noon to midnight everyday, though usually earlier and later. I'm not at any factory I help. Though on occasion I have visited them. And hope to see the new JJP building and new AP buildings some day. I've seen the old ones.

Also people thinking of buying a JJP game or CGC game. If they stop into my business. I'll open up the games and walk them through it to help the manufacturers sell games and people learn about what they are buying.

LTG : )

TheLaw c’est possible de poser des questions? LTG n’a pas besoin d’avocat, je ne l’agresse pas.
Vous avez l’air de le connaitre, moi pas. D’ou mes questions.

No problem. I know their may be a language barrier. I don't mind answering to help you better understand what I do.

LTG : )

Sorry buddy, it is my english limit with the word « tech » that confused me.
But i can see you have some good guys to step up.
Take care

Sorry Colonel, I misunderstood what you were saying. My fault/apologies

I don’t care if GNR is next or not. It’s not a title that is of any interest to me. I’m not a fan of any music themed pin for a variety of reasons. I’ve never understood why GNR was (rumored) to be a (potential) JJP game as it never seemed to fit with JJP’s other far more family friendly titles. I’m sure they’ll sell a decent number of games but don’t think it had anywhere near the sales potential that Toy Story should.

Assuming Toy Story is coming soon I’m very interested as long as the use of IP isn’t neutered as it was with POTC. In theory TS has the potential to be the elusive home run title for JJP. Imagine a crane toy that moves a pinball from one part of the playfield with the Aliens “the claw” video clips and so many of the other possibilities Pat has/had open to him.

I think it's far more likely that rather than "cancel culture", JJP made a decision based on:
1. 5 Music pins released in the last 7 years
2. Lack of a family-oriented pin releases imminent form competing line-ups
3. rumored upcoming LZ and possibly other competing pins.
4. oh, and BLM.

BTW, considering how many people pay attention to pinball, I doubt a GnR pin would make the news or spark protest. I think most marketing people would think that it would *help* JJP sales...

Between Batman 66 and Multimorphic Heist...

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Hmm, let's see:

2011 The Rolling Stones
2012 AC/DC
2013 Metallica
2017 Aerosmith
2017 AC/DC vault edition
2018 Iron Maiden
2018 The Beatles
2020 Led Zeppelin

Yeah, what JJP needs to do to stand out from the crowd is to release a music pin....

Why would they secure the license and presumably have the R&D done, then shelve it? If they even have the license, that is..

And that’s just Stern. Don’t forget Alice Cooper.

My guess is you wouldn't scrap it entirely, you would wait to *not* release the same time as a competing pin. Especially, if you think that the pins would cannibalize each others sales. Assuming that a portion of the sales of either pin are locked in to fans (and they will buy *whenever* you release), the remaining sales are to either those who will buy both (probably will buy whenever you release) or those that will choose based on theme. Given 2 pins with similar themes (Licensed Theme - Music), the sales would likely spilt between the two based on any number of other criteria (designer, look, play, price, etc). For some (arcades like D&B) it might just be as simple as price....

Right! My bad.

Apparently, IPDB doesn't think Alice Cooper is a Music pin:

Theme: Licensed Theme - Horror - Supernatural

Plus:
KISS
Primus
Rob Zombie

Heavy Metal kinda.. won't count that one.

Rob zombie!

I intentionally left out Primus, since it wasn't generally available. I didn't count KISS since I thought that was older (there was a 2015 KISS pin ??).

And I missed Rob Zombie as well, but I have to admit that haven't been in a location that would have had a RZ anytime in the last few years...

If I had to "bet" on which pin would be a massive success this fall/winter in the middle of a pandemic, it would be TS. I just think it will bring new consumers to the market. While one can argue that people are hurting economically, they seem to be spending more on home entertainment and I could see many people getting a family friendly pin to pass the time. Just a thought.

Well there’s hot wheels for that too.

Sorry meant to insert a vomit emoji.

Yup. People have been digging Hot Wheels, looks like a really fun pin with solid code updates. Annnnnd about a grand less than entry-level JJP...?

Sorry I shouldn’t judge. Haven’t played and it gets reviewed quite well.

Wise words to every WOZ owner out there

I have learned to love that maddening game!

You should be watching for new JJP game announcement threads. This thread is for complaining about why JJP does not do this....or that.

From what? GnR is not a political band. They lived a RnR lifestyle because and this is a shocker, they are a RnR band. Unless I'm unaware of some ideology the band holds that mind offend what is the issue?

Protect their image???? It’s time JJP did a more “adult” themed game. There is no secret thing that is just now surfacing making GnR look bad. If the issue is One in a Million, it’s a song that was on an album that sold insanely well back in the late 80’s, and is still out there. Hell, it’s on Spotify right now. I don’t condone the lyrics, but cancel culture has gotten a bit out of control. GnR as a whole is a great license for a music pin, and even though the DE version is good, I know JJP can do it better.

Wow 50 plus posts to this thread since the morning...
Still no news

If there really was an announcement, you really expected only 50 posts?

Would have been a start!

I would had expected over 300 posts in this thread and 3 new threads in a matter of 8 hours of an announcement.

Best part is Stern will apparently announce their next game on Friday. Thats the next game AFTER turtles. You know the game the brilliant marketing team at jjp decided to tease something innovative right after it was announced only to give us nothing? They're so far behind that now Stern is going to announce another game and still nothing from jjp? Maybe they'll tease something after this one too? Embarrassing and I like jjp!

Time to wake up and get something to be hyped about. Marketing is obviously not their strong suit.

If it’s Zep, I think it takes more GnR $ off the table for JJP. TMNT took some, another music pin will take much more. Jaws cleans the plate ...

JJP is not one person anymore. So there are several people who would “know”.

Oh thank god your back to explain everything to us.

Still mad that I know more than you about what’s going on I see....

I'm betting it's Axl. The ONLY reason jjp were going to do gnr is because slash bugged them to. I'm betting once they had to deal with Axl, they walked away. The guy is a complete loser in every sense of the word.

Or, they refused to make it as raunchy as the band (probably Axl) would want. I said It from the beginning: GNR is the worst possible theme for a family-friendly pinball company to license. They wouldn't even call Dialed In "Killer App" FFS. How in the hell did they think this would work?

I thought that was clear when I posted JJP for Jersey Jack Pinball.

Jersey Jack Pinball has always had more than one person that knows.

LTG : )

Well, except if the theme is really lame, i think the success of a game is more in how it is loaded, plays, coded, fun.
So i can’t see why GNR could not be sold more than Toy story.

Well, Stern and JJP are not built in the same company model, the same level of charges, the same commercial strategy.

Even if JJP aspires to build 2 games by year, this is not for this special year, for obvious reasons (move, covid...maybe some unforeseen things too).

But what i don’t get it, it is the general impatience about next JJP game. You would get the reveal of next game when it is ready. If it is fine for JJP, it is fine for me too.

Sure I understand but don't do a tease regarding innovation when you know damn right you have nothing to show the public for months and months later.

You all really think they pulled the plug on this?

Shit, back in feb/March we were talking about it being out by April/May so even with Covid this has to be well into the development and final part of process before production.

What a kick in the nuts for JJP if true, all the time and money wasted and time is money.

If the political and social climate is part of the reason you can kiss another run of POTC with Johnny the dirt bag Depp goodbye too.

This could be the reason for the possible change in theme if that's true. Zep doesn't take more GnR off the table, it pretty much kills it. I like GnR but they are no Led Zeppelin, JJP knows this and if its so they also no how it will impact sales. Zeppelin by Steve Ritchie? Come on now.

True

Giving Richie one of his beloved bands and themes would be great to see. JJP also holding out till later on makes sense also as TS would be a good theme to start off with in new plant. I just find it hard to believe that they would back off GNR release with investment they have in it already.. Stranger things have happened. I would still buy both the GNR and LZ as they will probably be vastly different playing games that would be interesting to own if this holds true.

JJP launching GnR or Toy Story around Thanksgiving with games hitting homes between Thanksgiving and Christmas would be a home run, IMO.