White Water
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There are those tacky backlit pictures my mother in law has.. They're usually some sort of a landscape with moving water effects. Something like that may look alright for our purposes.
Personally, I would want something that at least mimics what the original looks like. What technology is used to recreate that (lcd, or whatever) is fine with me.
Well, there are reputable people on this project, so while it may very well be impossible to create an exact reproduction, I'm confident they can come up with something close (or better) that we'll all be happy with. And if not, I don't expect that they'll do their best to pass it off as acceptable while pouring mt dew on their keyboard (I have to assume Travis drinks Mt Dew, it's the preferred drink of the dullards).
Following - I've had a topperless Wh20 for 5 years. I'm really hoping you can get something together for us!
It doesn't make sense to cite the highest price you've seen them sell for and claim that should be the value of a repro topper. The old argument that "something is worth what people pay" always relies on scarcity. Now, if you're reproducing them and hoping to sell them to dozens (or hundreds) of current owners, you can't really rely on what one desperate person paid on ebay as a pricing method.
I think this is less about trying to help a guy out, and more about trying to protect the value of a pin that you likely just landed in your own collection with the topper. I bought the game for the game, the topper is neat, but I'm not a buyer at gouge prices. I'm just not that worried about any topper.
Quoted from Whysnow:lol. nope... still looking for a nice whitewater to add to my collection. I am with you that the topper is neat but nothing I care much about in the bigger picture.
Those crappy Twisted Pins examples have been selling easily for $250 or more each time they come up and that is only the sticker which does not have the effect.
Highest price I have seen was 1k for a nice original that was plug and play. Seen many others over the past few years for 500plus.
Supply and demand is all that matters. If someone makes this and they control the market on the supply side. To me, $500 is a very reasonable place to put them up for sale. If they dont sell at that, then always easy to run a special later on. For all the effort put in, these are a 1 and done product. Your demand is possibly 100 people looking to complete their game currently missing a topper.Sorry you are wanting to keep the price down on this for your own personal reasons. Guessing once you add it to your game, you will value your game at at least $500-750 higher. Seems to me like the artist and creator should be getting paid fairly for the effort and skill. I am just discussing what I think it is worth.
I personally would pay $500 for a plug and play topper that works like the original and I dont even have a game to put it on. I just know that someday I will buy a whitewater and having a topper on hand is a nice thing for when a project that is missing a topper comes along.
Is this the decal you're talking about? I'll sell you as many as youd like at 250.
And you have no stake in this machine?
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It seems like Rick getting involved killed it.
I get the licensing thing, so I can't necessarily blame him, but he seems to do very little to help push useful projects like this one out to the community.
A few years ago he was fine with some jackwagon making these, presumably because his palm was appropriately greased. That cost myself and other hobbyists hundreds of dollars. So I wouldn't exactly claim that he's protecting the integrity of the IP..
Quoted from Gibranx:Unfortunately, I have spent some terrible months because of various situations.
Life is not always beautiful.
I am caring for a sick person.
It is getting worse and I don't know how many months are left to live.
But I haven't forgotten or abandoned the topper.
And even if I fail, I will publish the techniques that I have used and the various ideas, so that someone better than me can make it happen.
That's all.
Very sorry to hear. Hoping for the best for you and those around you.
When it comes down to it, pinball is just a silly hobby, please take care of your loved ones (and yourself) above all else.
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