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New Full Throttle tutorial by Bowen!


By Aurich

3 years ago



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#1 3 years ago

I only played Full Throttle myself for the first time at last Expo, sure could have used this video, it looks like it's the usual definitive guide to playing that Bowen always does.

If you've been waiting for a good Full Throttle video you can't beat the PAPA camera setup with Bowen narrating everything as he plays.

#2 3 years ago

Enjoyed the video.

#3 3 years ago

Great video. Watched a guy play for about 10 minutes at Expo while the ball would launch SDTM when it was my turn....even the saved ball was untouchable.

#5 3 years ago

I might get one of these. I wonder how painful shipping from the UK is.

Do you get tea and biscuits in the goodie bag?

#6 3 years ago

The game is sweet for sure. There is one on location in Pittsburgh at Kickback.

https://www.facebook.com/PGH-Pinball-437192326347647/

#7 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyo:

I wonder how painful shipping from the UK is.

You only pay shipping within US

#8 3 years ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

You only pay shipping within US

Really? Hmm...

#9 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyo:

Really? Hmm...

You can buy straight from Heighway still, but Cointaker is now the official US distributor. Buying from them will be like getting a Stern or anything else, just the US shipping part.

#10 3 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

You can buy straight from Heighway still, but Cointaker is now the official US distributor. Buying from them will be like getting a Stern or anything else, just the US shipping part.

It's not on their site yet. Same pricing?

#11 3 years ago

I have an Alien on order, but my thinking is that after watching that tutorial, I might add the Full Throttle playfield as well.

#12 3 years ago

Not my kinda theme, but the play looks crazy fast! Id love to take a burn on this title soon!

#13 3 years ago

This looks tremendous. I actually never paid this game much attention since it's not really my kind of theme (and I won't be buying any NIB soon), but wow, this looks great. OTOH, maybe Bowen makes 'em all look super?

I've never watched any of the other videos they have.

I should see to that.

#14 3 years ago

Ack he almost had my high score first go around!

https://img-f.pinside.com/201509/2698842/454933.jpeg

This game is going to take off!

#15 3 years ago
Quoted from jonnyo:

It's not on their site yet. Same pricing?

I assume so but don't know, you'd have to talk to them. But I figure people might have a higher comfort level dealing with a known US distributor.

#16 3 years ago

Great video, very cool game. It does go to show that theme matters and art. It looks like this pin shoots nice and has both interesting shots and rules and I really like the LCD color graphics (Stern?).

But this theme is a zero (for me). It's sad that only a handful of these games have sold. Stern sold 10x as many Avengers in a month (and I believe that's a weak game) but the sad fact is that (IMO) few people are interested in this theme. It'd be as bad as if it was cricket. (I'm exaggerating, but the fact remains that this pin is not selling in numbers that make people happy).

** EDIT, I don't know what the sales figures are, but only 11 registered on Pinside owners and 25 wish list.

Well, at least it looks like the code is cool (which is promising for Alien) and the shots seem to work and nothing was sub par that I can see. I really like this game. But the theme turns me off, and I really would need to play it first. Likely I'm waiting for Alien. I just hope this game sells somewhat so that the company is not on shaky ground from the jump.

#17 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

It's sad that only a handful of these games have sold.

Where do you get your numbers? Pinside only?

#18 3 years ago

I agree w/ Nate @ C2C that once Aliens is released sales of this will pickup as people buy the kits to swap in their Aliens.

#19 3 years ago

I think the number that have sold is the entire production run...as far as I know they sold out the first run and the second run of 60 more machines is near sold out if not sold out...

#20 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

the fact remains that this pin is not selling in numbers that make people happy

Seriously, where are these facts from?

#21 3 years ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

Seriously, where are these facts from?

This is the new and kinder Pinside, so I will say this nicely. His posterior.

#22 3 years ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

Where do you get your numbers? Pinside only?

I'm talking about Pinside but estimating what the real numbers are. We know that IM VE sold a certain number (lets say 400-500). And we know that the number of 'owners' on IM went up like 150-200 after the release. Whatever (someone had a screen grab before and after). Whatever the case may be. It's just saying that Pinside makes up a good number of pins sold to the world. So if the Pinside numbers say 11 owners, that tends to lead me to believe that less than 500 in total were sold. If IM owners went up 150 after selling 500, what number would you expect FTH to be at if they had sold 500?

Kiss came out around the same time, and so far, there are 163 owners of Kiss on Pinside.

I know that's not the total number of Kiss sold, but maybe 20% of the total.

So if 11 people list FTH as owned it's either the slowest roll out since The Hobbit or it's just not a big seller. Also, people put games in their collection (or wish list) before they are delivered.

TOTAN just over 3000 made (who knows but likely some are not still in existence after 20 years) and 465 Pinsiders list it in their collection, that's 15% ownership.

15% ownership (if 11 is the number of owners of FTH that would put 73 made). If 10% in the number that would put 110 made.

75 owners of AMH on Pinside and 65 wish list. 75 owners is almost 1/3 of the total number of AMH sold.

I think Pinside "owners list" makes up 10-30% of games sold.

#23 3 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

This is the new and kinder Pinside, so I will say this nicely. His posterior.

I stand corrected, FTH is a big seller. FTH has sold well, just 11 people (on Pinside) own it and 21 have it in their wish list but it's a big seller.

#24 3 years ago

Brand new company. First release. I'm 99% sure they sold out their ENTIRE first production run and their 2nd run is likely sold out as well...they are not Stern, why would you compare their production to Stern? Do you compare Spooky to Stern? I think you are creating a completely baseless comparison. Apples and Oranges. NOBODY will turn out games as fast as the only major pinball maker that's been in existence for decades. Repeat, this is their very first machine and they've sold all they've made....? That sounds like an overwhelming success but you somehow draw the opposite conclusion...can't disagree more.

#25 3 years ago

Is it a full moon?

#26 3 years ago

I was just getting ready to post this. I just saw the vid and the game looked great. I played it at Expo but didn't have much of an idea about what I was doing. Like the skill shot, I just revved it up really fast not knowing it was supposed to be in the yellow. It looked like rules were pretty great and I would definitely like to play it more.

#27 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I stand corrected, FTH is a big seller. FTH has sold well, just 11 people (on Pinside) own it and 21 have it in their wish list but it's a big seller.

Dude, it's a brand new game, the first from Heighway. The factory is still ramping up. Every single one that's been made has been sold, but no, it's not giant numbers yet. But you're saying crazy stuff like that the sales aren't what was expected or whatever. Utter nonsense, please don't make up stuff like that.

Post all the Pinside numbers you want, it's all good, but they don't really mean anything.

(Note that I have nothing to do with Full Throttle, I'm not tracking the sales or anything, but since I talk with Andrew regularly what I'm saying it based on facts, not speculation.)

#28 3 years ago

Ok, it's a hug seller. I'm pointing out that the theme matters, TBL has around 200 owners and/or wish list. Compaired to 33 owners/wish list for FTH. Tell me again how the factory ramp up is the reason why no one has this game on their wish list. Tell me, how if people have this on order and are waiting for delivery they can't put it in their collection? Several hundred TH are listed in collection and or wish list.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, it's actually nice. But the theme is up there with RCT or Mustang and such.

#29 3 years ago
Quoted from dmbjunky:

I was just getting ready to post this. I just saw the vid and the game looked great. I played it at Expo but didn't have much of an idea about what I was doing. Like the skill shot, I just revved it up really fast not knowing it was supposed to be in the yellow. It looked like rules were pretty great and I would definitely like to play it more.

It's amber, not yellow! Now shoot the gah-rage!

#30 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Several hundred TH are listed in collection and or wish list.

meaningless. I have bought a Full Throttle and don't have it in my "owner" list because I don't own it yet...people that have Hobbit listed can speak for themselves, but I don't own a game until it's in my basement

#31 3 years ago
Quoted from bkerins:

It's amber, not yellow! Now shoot the gah-rage!

I was wondering if that was a Northeastern way of saying garage. Is Bowen originally from New England area? He doesn't have that stereotypical accent.

Bowen was saying the code wasn't quite done in some areas. What was missing? Can you tell during normal play?

#32 3 years ago

Those flippers were caving a lot. Looked great otherwise!

#33 3 years ago
Quoted from dmbjunky:

I was wondering if that was a Northeastern way of saying garage. Is Bowen originally from New England area? He doesn't have that stereotypical accent.
Bowen was saying the code wasn't quite done in some areas. What was missing? Can you tell during normal play?

It's the English way of saying. Which is how the game says it. So he was repeating the pronunciation.

#34 3 years ago

Killer video! I can't wait to get mine!

#35 3 years ago

I'm sure they haven't sold a ton yet but they really just started making them and original themes from a new company takes time to take off. Once games are in stock full throttle is going to sell pretty good. I have zero interest in the theme and am not impressed with the art but the game is really fun and shoots great. As soon as cointaker has things worked out I'm getting one.

#36 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

But the theme is up there with RCT or Mustang and such.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most people (especially those not on Pinside) prefer a theme based in reality.

#37 3 years ago

Does anyone know what happens if you finish all of the races? Is there a "final race" wizard mode type of thing or do they just reset?

#38 3 years ago

I think the reality is just that Moto GP isn't that big in the US, so the theme doesn't have a lot of personal resonance for people.

On the other hand, it's an original theme, with hand drawn art, from a company that's real, with a factory, and making games. That's pretty cool.

And it shoots well, and has good rules. Do I think Alien will outsell it? Oh definitely. Heighway knows that. Licenses sell, like it or not. And of course I am doing all I can to help it be a kick ass game too.

But it's fun to discover new games, that don't have themes you already know. Get something different and unique.

#39 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I'm talking about Pinside but estimating what the real numbers are. We know that IM VE sold a certain number (lets say 400-500). And we know that the number of 'owners' on IM went up like 150-200 after the release. Whatever (someone had a screen grab before and after). Whatever the case may be. It's just saying that Pinside makes up a good number of pins sold to the world. So if the Pinside numbers say 11 owners, that tends to lead me to believe that less than 500 in total were sold. If IM owners went up 150 after selling 500, what number would you expect FTH to be at if they had sold 500?
Kiss came out around the same time, and so far, there are 163 owners of Kiss on Pinside.
I know that's not the total number of Kiss sold, but maybe 20% of the total.
So if 11 people list FTH as owned it's either the slowest roll out since The Hobbit or it's just not a big seller. Also, people put games in their collection (or wish list) before they are delivered.
TOTAN just over 3000 made (who knows but likely some are not still in existence after 20 years) and 465 Pinsiders list it in their collection, that's 15% ownership.
15% ownership (if 11 is the number of owners of FTH that would put 73 made). If 10% in the number that would put 110 made.
75 owners of AMH on Pinside and 65 wish list. 75 owners is almost 1/3 of the total number of AMH sold.
I think Pinside "owners list" makes up 10-30% of games sold.

This reminds me of when The Genius came up with an equation to defeat Hulk Hogan.

#40 3 years ago
Quoted from EJ:

Does anyone know what happens if you finish all of the races? Is there a "final race" wizard mode type of thing or do they just reset?

Bowen gets to the wizard mode in the video. He also mentions that additional modes are being worked on.

edit: correction - he gets a mini wizard mode.

#41 3 years ago
Quoted from bkerins:

It's amber, not yellow! Now shoot the gah-rage!

I hope your recent posting means you're back on pinside? Welcome back Bowen, and thank you for all the effort that you put into getting pinball back into the limelight!

#42 3 years ago

Game looks awsome, thanx sharing.

#43 3 years ago
Quoted from EJ:

Does anyone know what happens if you finish all of the races? Is there a "final race" wizard mode type of thing or do they just reset?

Yes, there is another wizard mode when you finish all the races also. 5 challenges = Challenges wizard mode (as shown in the video)
and 7 races = race wizard mode (looks a little harder to get to that one)

Love the rules on this one. It might not have the most fancy graphics or animations (yet) but it looks like the screen gives you very good information about the stats and what you need to do. Love the whole challenge rule setup and the following mini wizard with the cups.

If all goes well I will have Full Throttle LE in my home in 1-2 weeks. (supposed to be shipping late this week or early next week)

Really looking forward to this game. Dealing with Andrew Heighway has been a true pleasure so far. Customer service has been stellar.

#44 3 years ago

I only have room for 1-2 machines and I thought I was settled upon TBL, but I'm seriously considering getting Full Throttle/Alien instead. As others have said, the theme of Moto didn't catch me at all, but I really enjoy playing it. Adding in the ability to swap in Alien, which is one of the menfolk' favorite movies, as well as any future playfield releases, and it really starts to tip towards Heighway. I am holding off deciding until I can try out a TBL in person.

#45 3 years ago
Quoted from bkerins:

It's amber, not yellow! Now shoot the gah-rage!

Thanks for the tutorial Bowen. Really enjoyed watching it.

Now I will be well prepared when my Full Throttle arrives

#46 3 years ago

Bypassing nearly the last 25 posts, thank you Bowen for doing this awesome tutorial!!! As usual, your mastery of pinball is amazing.

#47 3 years ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

Brand new company. First release. I'm 99% sure they sold out their ENTIRE first production run and their 2nd run is likely sold out as well

I've asked Andrew about this, in regards to the early Alien announcement possibly eating Full Throttle's lunch, but he has 3 things going for him:

-Full Throttle will be a catalog title they can produce as needed for years to come, with no license restrictions
-The more owners of Heighway pinball cabinets, the more potential buyers for Full Throttle playfields.
-They have something like 6 other titles in various stages of development so the release frequency will pick up..

So if Full Throttle isn't a mega hit out of the gate, they have those advantages over every other pinball company.

The key for their business though is to get the mega-title that WILL sell a ton (Alien) out. And follow that up with their other regular releases.

#48 3 years ago

That LCD in the play field is so fi'n awesome. I want one of these so badly.

#49 3 years ago

The above is very true - the key to any successful company isn't in how well your first product sells, but how well your *second* one does.

#50 3 years ago

The game play looks great. I'm not sold on the cabinet and backbox (looks home brew to me ), but I've not seen one in person yet so that could change. Look forward to playing one!

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