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New Dead Flip Headquarters! v.3


By DeadFlip

43 days ago



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    #1 43 days ago

    So we seem to move locations every 3 years, and we're on to our next one!
    We found a 1000 sqft storefront in Chicago that is PERFECT for what we need.

    The space we're in now is amazing, but it's also amazingly small and expensive.
    This new location will allow us to have a ton-more pins, with the option to now have tournaments, parties, etc!
    The build-out is gonna be bare-minimum since I obviously have a small budget, but we're doing just enough to had a rad, open space.

    Comfortably fits 35 pins, still usable but a little tight.. 50 pins.

    We just had the electrician in today, an here are some pic of the build-out so far!
    Once we are set, I intend on having a VERY large party in here.

    (The drop ceiling is covering some amazing Tin/Copper tiles, but that's something we'll work on down the road.)
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    #2 43 days ago

    A few pins already moved in.
    Have some carpet tiles to drop, ceiling tiles to replace, and paint to toss on the walls.
    Once that's done, time to move all the games.
    All in, we already have 20 pins to put in here!

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    #3 43 days ago

    Nice!

    #4 43 days ago

    The Joel Osteen of pinball. Can't wait to see the private jet!

    #5 43 days ago

    mazel tov! just curious, how exactly does a headquarters operate? is it an arcade with machines on coin drop? a showroom? can you launch nuclear assaults against rival headquarter locations?

    #6 43 days ago
    Quoted from bigehrl:

    mazel tov! just curious, how exactly does a headquarters operate? is it an arcade with machines on coin drop? a showroom? can you launch nuclear assaults against rival headquarter locations?

    Yeah... What he said.

    #7 43 days ago

    let's see the sketch up with where all the pins are going to sit once done!

    congrats on the new space!

    In 3 more years I suggest "BUY" dont rent

    #8 41 days ago

    So we're working out the details of how we're gonna run this.
    Out of the box, this is just where I stream.
    We'll have room for tournaments and parties for sure, but it would be a wast to not let people enjoy all these pins.
    Perhaps a members-only club with a key pad/fob?
    Still brainstorming!

    #9 41 days ago
    Quoted from DeadFlip:

    So we're working out the details of how we're gonna run this.
    Out of the box, this is just where I stream.
    We'll have room for tournaments and parties for sure, but it would be a wast to not let people enjoy all these pins.
    Perhaps a members-only club with a key pad/fob?
    Still brainstorming!

    Keep sharing, keep the info coming the business model could be used to support new pinball locations and growth on other parts of the globe.

    #10 41 days ago

    best of luck - you do a great job

    #11 41 days ago

    Congrats! Looking forward to seeing the grand opening.

    #12 41 days ago
    Quoted from DeadFlip:

    Perhaps a members-only club with a key pad/fob?

    Just a guess, but I see potential for this option being a disaster

    #13 41 days ago
    Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

    Just a guess, but I see potential for this option being a disaster

    there used to be a place in ND or somewhere up there and I believe it ended very badly.

    Likley not a good idea.

    #14 41 days ago

    There's only one place in the Britain (that I know of) that has more than 20 pinball games in one location open to the public - Tilt Birmingham. And I visit once a year and drop maybe 10 quid into the machines...and have a coffee (yeah, I go a little crazy sometimes).

    The reason I don't go more often? It's too damn noisy. They have that modern pop music playing loudly throughout the cafe and I can't hear when I'm playing.

    You American's have much more respect for pinball and I'd seriously consider moving to the USA, if only to find more locations to play pinball.

    #15 41 days ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    there used to be a place in ND or somewhere up there and I believe it ended very badly.
    Likley not a good idea.

    Its actually a great idea. I'm a member of Fargo Pinball and it works extremely well. Pretty much 24/7 keyfob access to 30+ great machines. All members pass a background check and there are security cams in the club. Plus there is the ability to stream from the club, host tournaments and rent it out for private parties for extra income.

    In regards to things 'ending badly'.... There was a previous version of "Fargo Pinball" and it did close down under bad circumstances but it was mostly due to the previous owner having a bit of a meltdown and - with no notice given to members - he decided he wanted to get out of the hobby and sell all of his machines (his collection was very impressive so losing the machines in this area would have been a disaster for pinball fans).

    Luckily a group of local pinheads headed by the current ownership raised the funds to buy the games and open a new location that has been going strong ever since and has now expanded into having 9 machines on-location at a destination brewery in town.

    Here is a story from our local newspaper (with a great video) about the new location and our weekly league:

    https://tinyurl.com/yymakd69

    TL;DR - A membership only club is a pretty solid idea for Jack and I think he could make it work if he has a step to vet/background check any potential members and the proper security camera setup. Congrats on the new space! Can't wait until the streams from the new studio with some new games.
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    #16 41 days ago
    Quoted from anathematize:

    Its actually a great idea. I'm a member of Fargo Pinball and it works extremely well. Pretty much 24/7 keyfob access to 30+ great machines. All members pass a background check and there are security cams in the club. Plus there is the ability to stream from the club, host tournaments and rent it out for private parties for extra income.
    In regards to things 'ending badly'.... There was a previous version of "Fargo Pinball" and it did close down under bad circumstances but it was mostly due to the previous owner having a bit of a meltdown and - with no notice given to members - he decided he wanted to get out of the hobby and sell all of his machines (his collection was very impressive so losing the machines in this area would have been a disaster for pinball fans).
    Luckily a group of local pinheads headed by the current ownership raised the funds to buy the games and open a new location that has been going strong ever since and has now expanded into having 9 machines on-location at a destination brewery in town.
    Here is a story from our local newspaper (with a great video) about the new location and our weekly league:
    https://www.inforum.com/entertainment/games/985924-Fargo-Moorheads-first-pinball-league-kicks-off-at-Drekker-Brewing-Co
    TL;DR - A membership only club is a pretty solid idea for Jack and I think he could make it work if he has a step to vet/background check any potential members and the proper security camera setup. Congrats on the new space! Can't wait until the streams from the new studio with some new games.
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    glad to hear that model can work.

    Curious on some of the details that have made it work well in your opinion and how it all boils down?

    How much is memebership?
    Who maintains all the games?
    What issues come up?

    I have a pretty large collection and have thought a FOB access system could be a really nice way to share them in the future.

    #17 41 days ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    glad to hear that model can work.
    Curious on some of the details that have made it work well in your opinion and how it all boils down?
    How much is memebership?
    Who maintains all the games?
    What issues come up?
    I have a pretty large collection and have thought a FOB access system could be a really nice way to share them in the future.

    - First year is $45 to cover the background check and the keyfob. $20 per year after. ALL games at the club are 50 cents. The games on-location at the brewery are standard $1 for one / $2 for three and obviously don't require a membership to play.

    - One of the owners is a full-time employee of the club and between him and his brother they maintain all of the machines (with a little outside help if its an extremely tricky fix).

    - I really haven't seen any major issues. Occasionally a private party will have rented the space so the club will be closed for a few hours but its a minor inconvenience and the owners are good about communicating the rentals to members. Drinking at the club could be a potential issue but its never been a problem in my experience. I think some folks will step outside to their cars for a smoke or quick nip from a flask but nobody is getting belligerent and treating the machines poorly (again security cameras capture everything so if anything was broken it would be pretty easy to find the offender). Plus with machines at the local brewery now people have a space to have a few drinks and play games.

    I do think it helps that the club location is a bit off the beaten path in a residential neighborhood with other businesses like a dental office, medical clinic, etc. Its a bit of a destination and you can't just stumble upon it like the previous location which was directly in the heart of downtown Fargo.

    #18 41 days ago
    Quoted from anathematize:

    - First year is $45 to cover the background check and the keyfob. $20 per year after. ALL games at the club are 50 cents. The games on-location at the brewery are standard $1 for one / $2 for three and obviously don't require a membership to play.
    - One of the owners is a full-time employee of the club and between him and his brother they maintain all of the machines (with a little outside help if its an extremely tricky fix).
    - I really haven't seen any major issues. Occasionally a private party will have rented the space so the club will be closed for a few hours but its a minor inconvenience and the owners are good about communicating the rentals to members. Drinking at the club could be a potential issue but its never been a problem in my experience. I think some folks will step outside to their cars for a smoke or quick nip from a flask but nobody is getting belligerent and treating the machines poorly (again security cameras capture everything so if anything was broken it would be pretty easy to find the offender). Plus with machines at the local brewery now people have a space to have a few drinks and play games.
    I do think it helps that the club location is a bit off the beaten path in a residential neighborhood with other businesses like a dental office, medical clinic, etc. Its a bit of a destination and you can't just stumble upon it like the previous location which was directly in the heart of downtown Fargo.

    This is ridiculously awesome and I would signup in a second for that kind of access, if location was convenient.

    #19 41 days ago

    if i'll go one day to Chicago (...), for sure i have to visit you & drink some belgian beers !!!

    #20 41 days ago
    Quoted from anathematize:

    - First year is $45 to cover the background check and the keyfob. $20 per year after. ALL games at the club are 50 cents. The games on-location at the brewery are standard $1 for one / $2 for three and obviously don't require a membership to play.
    - One of the owners is a full-time employee of the club and between him and his brother they maintain all of the machines (with a little outside help if its an extremely tricky fix).
    - I really haven't seen any major issues. Occasionally a private party will have rented the space so the club will be closed for a few hours but its a minor inconvenience and the owners are good about communicating the rentals to members. Drinking at the club could be a potential issue but its never been a problem in my experience. I think some folks will step outside to their cars for a smoke or quick nip from a flask but nobody is getting belligerent and treating the machines poorly (again security cameras capture everything so if anything was broken it would be pretty easy to find the offender). Plus with machines at the local brewery now people have a space to have a few drinks and play games.
    I do think it helps that the club location is a bit off the beaten path in a residential neighborhood with other businesses like a dental office, medical clinic, etc. Its a bit of a destination and you can't just stumble upon it like the previous location which was directly in the heart of downtown Fargo.

    very cool and cheap/ smart way!

    I assume they skirt some of the coin drop license fees also (which would be great as it is pretty expensive per game in most places)

    How many members?

    #21 41 days ago

    Get those crap drop ceiling panels out ASAP. Seriously.

    Flat black on the tin/copper tiles will hide the vast majority of blemishes...and will look very nice with some led rope lighting and spot lights.

    #22 41 days ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    very cool and cheap/ smart way!
    I assume they skirt some of the coin drop license fees also (which would be great as it is pretty expensive per game in most places)
    How many members?

    Not sure exactly sure about the number of members but there is definitely a healthy local population for a city of our size that plays in leagues, tournaments, etc and it seems to be growing. I believe there is at least 50 founding members who helped raise the funds to purchase all the games (names are on a plaque in the club).

    100-150 active members maybe? But that is total speculation.

    #23 41 days ago
    Quoted from DeadFlip:

    So we're working out the details of how we're gonna run this.
    Out of the box, this is just where I stream.
    We'll have room for tournaments and parties for sure, but it would be a wast to not let people enjoy all these pins.
    Perhaps a members-only club with a key pad/fob?
    Still brainstorming!

    Congrats, Jack. Sounds like a fun problem to solve.

    #24 40 days ago
    Quoted from DeadFlip:

    So we're working out the details of how we're gonna run this.
    Out of the box, this is just where I stream.
    We'll have room for tournaments and parties for sure, but it would be a wast to not let people enjoy all these pins.
    Perhaps a members-only club with a key pad/fob?
    Still brainstorming!

    hope this location is by the boiler room.

    #25 34 days ago

    finished renovation on the new space yesterday.
    Packing up our games today to move in!
    :O
    (Yes, we kept one purple wall)

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    #26 33 days ago

    We have all the games moved in!
    I spent a few hours setting up some of them and moving them into place.

    Here is a little tour:
    https://twitter.com/dead_flip/status/1119089855072391169?s=21

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    #27 33 days ago

    Nice, it's looking like it's going to be an awesome space.

    #28 33 days ago

    In for a club invite

    #29 33 days ago

    Looks like a really great setup so far. Space is bigger than it looked from the photos once I saw how you were putting the Stern machines at an angle along the wall. Seems like there is some room to grow the collection.

    #30 33 days ago

    Looking good. Congratz

    #31 32 days ago

    ‪Few more ceiling tiles to replace, but we’re mostly set up!‬

    ‪Time to move in the small stuff!

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    #32 32 days ago
    Quoted from anathematize:

    - First year is $45 to cover the background check and the keyfob. $20 per year after. ALL games at the club are 50 cents. The games on-location at the brewery are standard $1 for one / $2 for three and obviously don't require a membership to play.
    - One of the owners is a full-time employee of the club and between him and his brother they maintain all of the machines (with a little outside help if its an extremely tricky fix).
    - I really haven't seen any major issues. Occasionally a private party will have rented the space so the club will be closed for a few hours but its a minor inconvenience and the owners are good about communicating the rentals to members. Drinking at the club could be a potential issue but its never been a problem in my experience. I think some folks will step outside to their cars for a smoke or quick nip from a flask but nobody is getting belligerent and treating the machines poorly (again security cameras capture everything so if anything was broken it would be pretty easy to find the offender). Plus with machines at the local brewery now people have a space to have a few drinks and play games.
    I do think it helps that the club location is a bit off the beaten path in a residential neighborhood with other businesses like a dental office, medical clinic, etc. Its a bit of a destination and you can't just stumble upon it like the previous location which was directly in the heart of downtown Fargo.

    That might work in some areas but I can't imagine people would pay a membership fee AND expect to drop coins into the machines to play them. Shirley a city like chicago has many locations where people can just walk in and play.

    #33 32 days ago

    is this a project or your custom game?

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    #34 32 days ago
    Quoted from yellowghost:

    That might work in some areas but I can't imagine people would pay a membership fee AND expect to drop coins into the machines to play them. Shirley a city like chicago has many locations where people can just walk in and play.

    Right now I pay 50 dollars a month to play all I want at the location I go to. At 20 dollars a year, I wouldn't mind dropping in 50 cents to play at all.

    #35 32 days ago
    Quoted from yellowghost:

    That might work in some areas but I can't imagine people would pay a membership fee AND expect to drop coins into the machines to play them. Shirley a city like chicago has many locations where people can just walk in and play.

    You might be right. Its definitely not a model for everybody but I'm sure some people would likely pay just for the exclusive access and the low crowds.

    Plus it seems like Jack will always have the newest Stern machines pretty fast so that could be a draw for some.

    The nice thing about this situation is that it would only be supplemental income. It wouldn't be the whole business model.

    #36 30 days ago
    Quoted from swinks:

    is this a project or your custom game?
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    That is a working Cabaret, that had roached play-field art.
    We sanded what was left off, and plan on doing an art re-theme!

    #37 29 days ago
    Quoted from DeadFlip:

    That is a working Cabaret, that had roached play-field art.
    We sanded what was left off, and plan on doing an art re-theme!

    Cool, thanks for sharing

    #38 27 days ago

    Going on 4 years this fall with our little club

    Jack: If you are thinking of a club model for the new diggs let us know how we can help.

    Also, anyone else considering a club model (aka "Anytime Fitness Pinball") let us know how we can help.

    Bill
    Fargo Pinball
    http://www.fargopinball.com/
    Like Us On Facebook
    http://www.facebook.com/fargopinball

    #39 27 days ago

    Bring back daily battles or weekly battles will work too.

    #40 27 days ago

    Exciting! Makes me want to hop in the car and drive from Minneapolis just to chip in. Can’t wait to see the finished product!

    #41 27 days ago

    Havent received my application in the mail yet...

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    #42 17 days ago

    When will we get another look at the game you are working on? The layout had me interested. If you can get tna style lighting, I'm in

    #43 14 days ago
    Quoted from anathematize:

    - First year is $45 to cover the background check and the keyfob. $20 per year after. ALL games at the club are 50 cents. The games on-location at the brewery are standard $1 for one / $2 for three and obviously don't require a membership to play.
    - One of the owners is a full-time employee of the club and between him and his brother they maintain all of the machines (with a little outside help if its an extremely tricky fix).
    - I really haven't seen any major issues. Occasionally a private party will have rented the space so the club will be closed for a few hours but its a minor inconvenience and the owners are good about communicating the rentals to members. Drinking at the club could be a potential issue but its never been a problem in my experience. I think some folks will step outside to their cars for a smoke or quick nip from a flask but nobody is getting belligerent and treating the machines poorly (again security cameras capture everything so if anything was broken it would be pretty easy to find the offender). Plus with machines at the local brewery now people have a space to have a few drinks and play games.
    I do think it helps that the club location is a bit off the beaten path in a residential neighborhood with other businesses like a dental office, medical clinic, etc. Its a bit of a destination and you can't just stumble upon it like the previous location which was directly in the heart of downtown Fargo.

    This is a badass model.
    Only $20 a year for exclusive game access. Sure it sucks to coindrop, but nightowls like myself who post at 3am could just drive to the pinball club and spend a few hours there.
    That’s MY kind of operation.

    #44 14 days ago
    Quoted from Graysonsdad:

    When will we get another look at the game you are working on? The layout had me interested. If you can get tna style lighting, I'm in

    Very soon, working on the documentary associated with the build!

    #45 8 days ago

    Trying to decorate this place, and as it turns out, I suck at decorating.
    Time to just start nailing translites to the walls and call it a day.

    #46 8 days ago

    Sorry, I forget, what was the next stern game again?

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