Here's my take on that RD; I agree in the sense for anyone playing WOZ, hobbit, or any game even that the display for the most part is fancy schmancy and not relevant to gameplay. However, 100 games later you begin to understand bits and pieces. For example, I know when to glance up for a millasecond on GOT to see what my combos are at or to see a big shot value. I'm 1000+ games in on my GOT; I had no idea what to look for 500 games ago and once I started learning that my scores rocketed.

So for games like WOZ and hobbit with display overload. Sure, it might seem like a complete foreign mess at first - but 250+ games later it'll all make sense. and jjp pins are directed at home environment users. I love finding something new on a pin in my home that I've had for months or even years. It keeps it fresh.

So is the dmd, LCD, overall display apart of pinball? You don't play it, but it absolutely is a part of pinball and a key ingredient to successful play and overall enjoyment of the journey.

That's kind of my point and why I agree. But, as I search for my next pin I'm not looking for something that I'll learn in the first 5 games either. Despite the best closest location pinball for me being 1 1/2 hours away, Pinball on location is on the rise or so it seems; so someone is doing something right.

I fully agree with this. I was at this same location and had the same exact thoughts. RZ is fetching near $8k prices when it looks more like a $3k pin. jjp machines make sterns look cheap, and stern machines make spooky pins look cheap. The good news is we have 3 company styled pins to choose from and with sterns PF issues and ever increasing prices, this is a good thing; but I'm with rarehero, the dots on GB are outstanding and I'd take GB red dots over RZ colored ones.

But I do agree in that stern needs to finally get on the ball and be done with their dmd...and that day is coming!