https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gizmo-games-is-doing-pitch-and-bat#post-3671704

I played the zombie version at MGC this year, it was fun.

Price?

Unfortunately... a lot

Is that the final All Star Baseball playfield graphics? No players shown on the field? (regular version one). If so...not liking that bareness...

Too many other options at that price for me.

I just got the October issue of RePlay, with an ad from Valley-Dynamo and an article on the pitch-and-bat games. It's officially a Valley-Dynamo product, and they have distributors for both coin-op and home game room channels. Built by Valley-Dynamo, designed by Gizmo. Their website has not announced the game as of this writing.

Mike P. says that these games will be displayed (by Gizmo, not Valley-Dynamo) at Pinball Expo.
.................David Marston

gizmogamedesign.com

I know GRG is always inflated in their prices, but... uh oh...

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I actually sent them an email about 3 weeks ago, and nobody ever responded. I hope their not another fly by night pipe dream as I'd like to add this my collection....them not responding to inquiries is not a good sign

Sent to whom? Valley-Dynamo is handling this through their coin-op distributor channels. Find the distributor for Valley-Dynamo coin-op products that covers your area, and ask them about it. Gizmo might not know a lot about which distributors will carry it.
.................David Marston

I sent the email directly through their website....in the area "contact us"....still no reply....my guess its just smoke and mirrors...as summer has passed and still no product....as much as I would like this product I've seen this movie before...I hope I'm wrong....

Gizmo will be at Expo. See it, play it, and talk to the guys in person.

Did you contact Gizmo or Valley? Either way you should have received a response. Pm me, I'll get you the info you need.

I think the game looks like a lot of fun and my family would enjoy a game like this. What surprises me is they have ZERO marketing material on the product. How about a 5 minute video? There is essentially zero information on their website, which makes me nervous that their another fly by night company (I hope I'm wrong)....if you have a video I'd love to see it.

That might be Valley-Dynamo's responsibility. Gizmo is essentially a development team. Also, they aren't yet taking orders, just preliminary expressions of interest in the game.
.................David Marston

Your hopes have been answered. YOU ARE WRONG!!! Please stop using the phrase "fly by night" You are dead wrong about that.

Interesting...you seem to have intimate knowledge...do tell?

Thank you. When it is ready, we will have plenty of info available. The game is a Valley-Dynamo product. Gizmo designed the games. It is licensed to Valley- Dynamo.
They build it, sell it, ect. You will be able to purchase a game from any Valley -Dynamo distributor. Gizmo will be a distributor as well, if you'd like to buy from us. We are taking no deposits until games are shipping. That is all for now.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155809453899116&id=106073554115

As further evidence of their non-fly-by-night-ness, note that there have already been full-page ads in both RePlay and Play Meter, and the game will be exhibited at the upcoming IAAPA trade show.
.................David Marston

So do you have a video on the game play?

I would certainly like to see more pictures of these new machines and the assemblies going into them. They look like direct copies of Williams man running units and Williams bat units.

The original Williams patent # 2459011 on the man running unit was filed in 1947 and granted/published in 1949. So that patent has expired many years ago and is now public domain. What a marvelous piece of engineering that man running unit was back in 1947 and still is today.

https://www.familyleisure.com/Arcade-Games/All-Star-Baseball-Pinball

Looks like you can buy here. Nice looking for a modern pitch and bat.

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For that price and the extremely basic build quality, I'll take a Slugfest for about 1/4 the price. If Slugfest couldn't make it in the market, I can't imagine this or the zombie version going anywhere. Pitch and Bats are even less popular than pinball. Who is this for? Certainly not operators, right?

This game is best suited for operators.
It has been monetarily successful both in sales and earnings in this area. It has been competitive with pinball since release on location, based on its head to head nature. Many new players have never seen a pitch and bat game today

Complexity of a coin operated device does not determine an outcome, if a person is familiar with redemption, competition play, or even megatouch style amusements.

I discussed this game in detail in the Gizmo Games Design LLC thread.

I just got my April issue of Play Meter. These games are the cover story! Valley-Dynamo COO Nick Baron is interviewed, and he explains more about the relationship with Gizmo. "We hope to continue developing more games with Gizmo in the future and rolling them out every 18 months or so." He claims to have sold some games "to our home dealers", though I haven't seen signs of it. (Valley-Dynamo has two separate distribution networks, and the pitch-and-bat games have primarily been pushed for operators through their operator-centric distribs.) He acknowledges that these games have a lot more electronics than their prebvious products, and states that they are open to further broadening of their product line.
.................David Marston

I just got the August 2019 issue of RePlay, which has a cover story about Valley-Dynamo. There is no mention of the pitch-and-bat games in the 3-page story. But it might be noteworthy that the COO goes on at some length about selling only through their official distributors and dealers, "never direct to locations or operators." That attitude would make it harder to develop the sales channel to the home game room market.
.................David Marston

Great traditional layout for sure. But I heard they are not as stout as traditional P+Bs like ones built by Williams. Pot metal parts breaking...

Well you don't have to worry about Playmeter Magazine. They closed up shop in June of last year.

They were sucking pretty hard at the end there, so not a huge loss...