I agree about the lockbar but hate the playfield pegs on my MET especially since the slide mech is the old one that expects you to lean on the apron to get it to slide back easily. Are they still using those pegs on new games?

MET also didn't have the holes drilled to add back the playfield slides so I had to drill. Talk about a crappy move to save a quarter. I hope they added those holes back at least.

Don't care about coffin lock vs the bolts since it is rare to put the head down.

Finally, some common sense on these subjects!

Huh?!? Why wouldn't you lock it when you first set up the game. Makes absolutely no sense for you not to do that. Once it's locked, its not coming unlocked unless again, you unlock it...

I'm betting a lot of people don't ratchet it down all the way. They actually make a 3/4 turn if not a full turn do they not? Either way that is a far better latch than the W/B one and the bolts are just another cost cutting cheap out like the lockbar and the pegs instead or the rails and the cheap wood and......

Huh didn't know that. I don't have anything that new. I like the coffin lock. Guess I'd have to check out the new system....

That could be. I always lock it, and then put pressure on the backbox to make sure it's locked.....

which distributors in which countries? and no i don't, in the UK more folks seem to have bought Batman than AS! let see numbers...

Neil.

dp

Love the new backboxes and all my games are on switches. I don't want to have to keep track of that gigantic Alan wrench.

Really? What about the THREE CANON INSERTS on the playfield. Are those part of the best coded game ever?

I don't think that asking sheets or anyone else at stern YTF aren't these still programmed is an unwarranted request.

ACDC is my favorite pin but this is a valid question.

OMFG STFU about the cannon inserts...FFS...glarghghghghghhhhh....

They are PROGRAMMED! They light up when you hit a target with the cannon. Just because they don't do what YOU want them to do doesn't make them "not programmed"

171 Luci ACDC machines were built

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Lyman has already answered this. He had an original plan for them, he tried it, and it wasn't fun. So he didn't do it, because not fun is a good thing to not do.

At this point in time there's zero reason to expect that to ever change. The code is fine, just enjoy it.

Yep, and she's a keeper!

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171 and plenty available always, who cares?

Well just the owners i guess.

Gotta get this thread back on topic...

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UNOBTANIUM!

Easy to misplace!! I have that exact kit. Guess which one is missing.

Hey on the Pro with a swinging bell, what happens when the ball gets trapped behind the bell? Prem has a side exit to the left but I don't see that on the pro.

Can't happen on the pro as there is no scoop behind it. Stand up is still there you just get the bell to swing into it. You get a swing but not the same effect as the prem/le where you can get behind it.

Sorry man there are more than 171 LUCI's a guy who is well connected told me, sorry dude

I learned something at Pinfest, that there are bolt locations inside the head as well, so you don't have to bolt the back of the head, you can bolt it inside instead. Like the older B/W.

Just decide on which standard you want for your collection and swap the bolts out for either all hex or all nut. If that is already a challenge.......

have the details been released yet for the premium? wondering if it comes with powdercoated armor, and what the art package will look like?

So how many were produced then since you have insider info. Spill the beans if you are that confident.

We can speculate all day since Stern doesn't release production numbers. I have insider info too. But let's flashback to when Luci was announced. It was towards the tail end of the run of AC/DC. At the time it was released I believe some statements from Stern had already said that AC/DC was their best seller....not sure what that really means as no number of units sold was given to back that up. I was very interested in getting one but I had just got Metallica....at the time I also figured Luci would be available for a while...it was maybe 4-6 months later that Luci was done if I remember correctly. I was pissed at the time because I knew I missed the boat but life goes on. Stern can barely deliver a run of 500-600 LE's of a new release in 4-6 months. Initially Luci took off but after about a month many came up for sale...wife/ GF etc said get that thing out of here. So given the run was short I doubt they made more than 500 and that's being generous.....so while 171 may be low it's likely not anywhere near 500. Unless distributors bought and stockpiled them to cash in later. We know with LE's this happens all the time. Hot LE's sell out then after a couple years a NIB LE pops up for sale. Either way the number is most likely less than the number of AC/DC LE's made....and I mean less than either version separate and not combined...so less than 250 is probably a good speculation.

With all the new people buying new games today they could easily double the number of Luci sold if they ran it. It just seems some of the new releases are not near as fun as AC/DC. And with more people in the hobby now demand has increased and prices for used AC/DC are getting STUPID so it makes complete since for Stern to cash in. They can sell a few hundred units for more than the original run cost. Easy pay day for Stern.

I think in the year+ I owned my premium, I got the ball in the scoop behind the bell about a dozen times

It makes sense, too many up for sale % wise for there to be 171.

I'd guess at least 500.

Luci was announced in December of 2013. The last one came off the line in April of 2014. Stern initially ordered parts to build 250. The total run was 171. Stern thought they could sell 500. It was considered a complete flop of an idea by Stern at the time.

is that true ??

...huh? The wire is just there to keep the ball from going STDM. I don't know if it's there or not at the location I play at, and frankly I don't care. I've seen bad returns on pros that have it and pros that don't. What I was talking about was the fact that on the Premium, there is a lane for the ball to not get stuck behind the swinging bell that feeds to the left orbit. It doesn't exist on the original Pros. Does it exist on the LED pros since they have the swinging bell? If so my point was entirely moot.

No new pros don't have that lane. But the ball only goes in that lane after it comes out of the scoop behind the bell....so roughly 1 in 100 games lol. Just kidding probably 1 in 20 games.

Nah, I agree with what you said. The shot to get into the bell scoop is really hard..when I had a premium and needed the scoop, basically the only sure-fire way was to hit the bell once, get it swinging then try and time the shot with the swing of the bell.

Yea I never had to clean that lane cause it was never used

Sounds like your bell was either out of alignment or the flippers were weak. I get the ball in the scoop usually atleast once a game. Some games 3-4 times.

Where is my resolve. I'm starting to feel dirty because I want one.

Take a cold shower.

I played ACDC often when I had mine. Getting it in the scoop behind the bell was difficult. Only seemed like when the bell was moving and another quick shot would make it past the bell.

Come on, its more finished than most other games out there Id say Be happy!

Distributors who sell machines.

AC/DC is one of the best games ever made. My LE is a keeper and will never leave. The gameplay is pure fun. The code is great as it is! Perhaps it's blasphemy and please don't vote me down for it, but I would like to see an update with the option implemented to choose if the game plays with the normal or the live versions of the songs. Why do they use more rom space than normal for live songs but don't use them in the gameplay? The same goes for the tricolored GI Leds, I still think they could be used better in a way like in Metallica. And if they could use different start animations for the multiball modes.... ...oh god this is all realy nitpicking......I better just go and put a few more games on it and have fun as it is. Bye!

From memory live songs was next to be implemented in the code as later code had the option in the menu but not active.

Never knew they were there.

Shame, like other stuff, it got abandoned. 3 years since last update passed in March.

Maybe a 3 and a half year update in September, shortly before the Premium VEs go out?

Maybe the 'live songs' not being enabled was a licensing issue? More songs would probably mean more royalty money for the band. We may never know for sure just as we will probably never see any update when the Encore Premiums ship. I would pay $50 for the live songs to be enabled on my game....

Rob

I'm pretty sure they would not be included if it was a licensing issue. They'd be in breach.

The live songs are playable through the attract-mode radio. Use the Fire button to switch between live/studio versions (AM/FM bands). I'll send you my PayPal address....

This is already general knowledge, so you are unfortunately disqualified from the contest..

I just got done playing some Luci.. I really need new coil stops for this game. The brass rings totally disintegrated... The little extra flipper travel really changes the shots. And I need to put a color dmd back in this game!

Rob

Seems like some games do better than other with that shot. Mine's like your to where it goes back there pretty frequently on a clean shot. Friend of mine had a Luci and i don't think we ever got the ball back there on his.

Too bad there's no point to the saucer unless you are playing HB. It could at least give maybe a 1 or 2 million HB bonus with a bell bong during other songs...

Rob