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New AC/DC Code!


By rs812

1 year ago



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#451 6 months ago

Of course I’m aware it was just added, which makes it even weirder to introduce as a game feature. This is the only industry where sloppiness is acceptable on major high dollar purchases.

#452 6 months ago
Quoted from 27dnast:

I’m sorry... but the fact that Oi Mania mode results in nothing is just stupid. We’re talking about $5-$7k game that’s, what, 6 years old? And it has an achieveable part of the game that does nothing??? What!?!?
Can you imagine if you were playing “Sorry” with your kids and you landed on a square that had references to game cards that didn’t exist?? You be completely flabbergasted.
With the money Stern is asking for these games - new from the factory - they should be complete 6 years post launch. Wow. This is one of the reasons I’ve been turned off to so many of the new releases. There’s zero guarantee you’ll have an uninterrupted experience consistent with a product worth multiples of thousands of dollars.

You still bought one though

#453 6 months ago
Quoted from Toads:

You still bought one though

I’ve had it 5 years. Did not buy it NIB.

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#454 6 months ago

http://www.head2headpinball.com/2018/12/11/episode-73-inside-the-mind-of-lyman-sheats/

Great interview!

Lyman talks about AC/DC code.

Says he has already done a multiball/mini-wizard mode after 6 songs!

But, he is not sure if he is going to put into the game.

I REALLY hope he puts it in

If it is a high scoring MB, it will add a ton of strategy as completing 6 songs becomes an additional goal.

Do other people want him to add this feature after 6 songs???

#456 6 months ago

Yes !!

#457 6 months ago

Yes. Please also add the option for the current song to continue playing from ball to ball, rather than restart.

#458 6 months ago

Yes mini wizard should be added, I’ll venture 90% of owners will never reach the real wizard mode without cheating and taking glass off!

#459 6 months ago

Looking good!

Will post in the owners thread as well.

Would be so frustrating knowing he has coded it, but decided not to include it!

#460 6 months ago

Yes! Please Lyman! Couldn't he just put an option in the settings to disable it if he's worried that some people wouldn't like it?

#461 6 months ago

Surely he wouldn’t tease us with such a revelation and not release it!

#462 6 months ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Says he has already done a multiball/mini-wizard mode after 6 songs!
Do other people want him to add this feature after 6 songs???

YES!

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#463 6 months ago

Yes to the mini wizard mode!!!!

Yes to the option of songs continuing after a drain!!!!

Yes to OI mode!!!

Yes to implementing the live mode in settings!!!!

One final code finish with these incomplete game options would do it Lyman. Please please please.

#464 6 months ago
Quoted from alveolus:

Surely he wouldn’t tease us with such a revelation and not release it!

He might and don't call him Shirley

#465 6 months ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Do other people want him to add this feature after 6 songs???

Definitely! And with Lyman, we can trust he'll do so in such a way that is meaningful to scoring, fun, and balanced with the effort it takes to get there.

#466 6 months ago

Seems like Lyman is going to be pretty popular if this is implemented

#467 6 months ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Yes to the mini wizard mode!!!!

Yes to the option of songs continuing after a drain!!!!

Yes to OI mode!!!

Yes to implementing the live mode in settings!!!!

Yup, that would do it

#468 6 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer73:

Yes. Please also add the option for the current song to continue playing from ball to ball, rather than restart.

YES YES YES

#469 6 months ago

Well, if Lyman is listening, feedback is positive for something after 6 songs.

Wonder if this happens, if it will happen same time as oi mania fix?

Early 2019?

#470 6 months ago

Put it in. Give those that don’t want it the option to turn it off, or let him just play the old code.

#471 6 months ago
Quoted from twenty84:

Put it in. Give those that don’t want it the option to turn it off, or let him just play the old code.

This is true, a great thing about owning a pin is you can play around with the settings.

I had XMLE and preferred with hero stack on some folks hated stack on but there was a menu option and you can do whatever you like.

I can never get to the full end of most games but I love when there is a nice satisfying middle level code that makes you want to try to get there. AcDc to me I never even think about Encore might as well not have anything because it’s so far away. If there was an intermediary mode I’d love to have a shot at and play more.

#472 6 months ago
Quoted from rai:

This is true, a great thing about owning a pin is you can play around with the settings.
I had XMLE and preferred with hero stack on some folks hated stack on but there was a menu option and you can do whatever you like.
I can never get to the full end of most games but I love when there is a nice satisfying middle level code that makes you want to try to get there. AcDc to me I never even think about Encore might as well not have anything because it’s so far away. If there was an intermediary mode I’d love to have a shot at and play more.

AC/DC is so complex with nuances, that I even forget encore exists. If there is a middle ground wizard mode, it would be great to have callouts that help guide you to it.

“You’ve completed 3 songs, you’re halfway there!”

Or that sort of thing. In fact, it’s surprising more games don’t have speech that tell you when you hit progress milestones along the way.

#473 6 months ago

It's likely much too late in the game to get new call outs but a big hell yes for the 6 song mini wizard.

#474 6 months ago

I've never seen Encore. I might have a chance at 6.

#475 6 months ago

Since we are wishing about things. Remember that TZ had a setting on home ROM you could just play lost in the zone. (I think) I never tried that.

But hell it would be cool if you could just step up and play Encore

Heck it’d be like a new game almost could even have a high score setting for that.

It almost a shame to code such a cool mode that no one gets to play.

#476 6 months ago

One thing I will add from a software perspective, branching paths through code does cost time and money. I personally would much prefer they just focus on new stuff. If you don’t want the new stuff don’t update. Lyman seems to be doing this as a bit of a personal project so let’s not waste time adding functionality so new firmware can be disabled to be just like the old.

#477 6 months ago

I haven’t even updated my machine yet, thought it was buggy.

What are the bigs adds to gameplay?

#478 6 months ago

In minority here but I would love to see a mini wizard mode at 6 but I would prefer it to not be a MB though. Game is already so MB heavy, I'd rather see a cool single ball mode but wouldn't be upset if it was a MB. Just prefer single.

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#479 6 months ago
Quoted from 85vett:

In minority here but I would love to see a mini wizard mode at 6 but I would prefer it to not be a MB though. Game is already so MB heavy, I'd rather see a cool single ball mode but wouldn't be upset if it was a MB. Just prefer single.

That's a good idea

#480 6 months ago
Quoted from 85vett:

In minority here but I would love to see a mini wizard mode at 6 but I would prefer it to not be a MB though. Game is already so MB heavy, I'd rather see a cool single ball mode but wouldn't be upset if it was a MB. Just prefer single.

Or maybe a 2 ball MB, with a massive SJ somewhere like CFTBL...

#481 6 months ago
Quoted from 85vett:

In minority here but I would love to see a mini wizard mode at 6 but I would prefer it to not be a MB though. Game is already so MB heavy, I'd rather see a cool single ball mode but wouldn't be upset if it was a MB. Just prefer single.

Hitting the 5 major shots (ramps, loops, and bell)...then having the option to collect a bonus at the bell via cannon like the scoop in MET for crank it up...or press your luck to got through it again for more points.

#482 6 months ago

Let's all be honest: we'll take what we can get for a mini-wiz mode, if it happens at all, whether multi- or single-ball mode.

But since we're dreaming.... personally, I'd like it to be:
Cannon-based multi-ball mode, requiring you to load/shoot the cannon non-stop at targets/shots other than just the lightning bolt target, while trying to keep multiple balls in play, and use timed locked-ball value multipliers logic (similar to T2, where you get multiplied jackpots you temporarily lock balls in saucers). With ACDC mini-wizard, make cannon shots 2x value when you time-lock a ball in the top saucer, but 4x value when you time-lock a ball behind the bell (prem/LE only, much more difficult than the top saucer), and a sweet 6x if you lock at both shots with one ball still remaining.

EDIT: changed the comparison to T2, because duh... it's the exact same logic. Nothing new under the sun. lol

#483 6 months ago

That may be a little to close to one of the standard modes though. For the life of me I can't recall the song name but one of them is basically shoot the right ramp, load the canon, fire at lit target. Those targets changed based off your progression of the mode. I think it's For Those About To Rock. I do like the lock a ball strategy though. Could get pretty lucrative with PF multipliers running too.

#484 6 months ago
Quoted from 85vett:

one of them is basically shoot the right ramp, load the canon, fire at lit target. Those targets changed based off your progression of the mode. I think it's For Those About To Rock.

I avoid that mode at all costs....the last thing I want to do is fire the cannon more often to put the ball in danger when the value is around 1-2 million. Now, if the shot's base value starts and 20 million and doubles every time you reload....now we are talking. This is a mini-wizard mode, let the points fly

#485 6 months ago
Quoted from Captive_Ball:

I avoid that mode at all costs....the last thing I want to do is fire the cannon more often to put the ball in danger when the value is around 1-2 million. Now, if the shot's base value starts and 20 million and doubles every time you reload....now we are talking. This is a mini-wizard mode, let the points fly

The song is ‘For those about to Rock’ and I absolutely love playing this during a multiball. Cradle 1 or 2 balls on left flipper, be sure you collected 4 of your 5 multiball shots so your next VIP will add a ball. Then, load cannon and start building the crap out of your song jackpot. Get 2x or 3x rolling and your song jp will sky rocket. Once you use VIP, play out the multiball as you would, then switch songs and cash in your song jackpot. Tough to do, but fun and rewarding.

#486 6 months ago

As for a mini wizard mode. As long as it doesn’t halt or delay progression towards encore too badly, I’m all for it. Maybe whatever song you pick as that 6th song is your mini wizard mode music and when the mode is over the song gets marked complete so you can move onto song 7 easy enough.

Or maybe a lightning round; start song 6 (mini wizard mode begins) load the cannon, hit a target, shoot jukebox > song 7, load cannon, hit two targets, shoot jukebox > song 8, load cannon, hit 3 targets > etc...as long as you don’t drain and you’re good enough, you can work your way up to song 12 and get encore lit.

#487 6 months ago

Thanks for the podcast link. YES on mini encore mode. Also totally agree with what he says about needing clearer call outs and indication of what the song jackpot situation is and what song is next up for MB bonus etc.

Other than that:

Fix Oi Mania

Fix non functioning cannon mode inserts

Allow song to continue between balls

Allow playing live version of songs or maybe make some achievement switch the song

from studio to live (just start the song over since they don’t line up time-wise.

Add an “always active” ball save for 2 seconds after firing the cannon to take care of bs instant drains off of cannon shots that really shouldn’t penalize.

#488 6 months ago

For those people saying Encore is too hard. What settings do you have?

Changing from having to complete 8 shots to light the jukebox to 4 shots would make it much easier. (Realistically that is one of the most welcome changes in latest Metallica update, the defaults have been lowered making it easier to get to EotL).

Also, if you purely focus on completing a song and moving on, it isn't as hard as is being made out.

Forget about the actual score, focus on progression, and you'll get to Encore in no time - it's the way forward.

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#489 5 months ago

We finally updated the code on our Luci. Is there a rulesheet anywhere for 1.70 code? Could I please have a link if there is one.

Thanks!

#490 5 months ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

We finally updated the code on our Luci. Is there a rulesheet anywhere for 1.70 code? Could I please have a link if there is one.

Thanks!

Not that I'm aware of. Reference the game code release notes -- it's quite descriptive: http://f0727d06e1d39b514478-a613b39d02a32124478c749a23d19af0.r44.cf5.rackcdn.com/ACD170LE-README.TXT

TL;DR....
- Jam & Tour MB are easier to qualify. And the subsequent MB's of all three types are easier to get to.
- Added new "STUFF" awards that can be collected from Tunes n Stuff via R loop to upper saucer (after completing a set of Devil Horns shots)
- Big changes to BIB and LTBR modes, making them easier, more lucrative, and more interesting.
- Increased scoring to FTATR, TNT, and R&RTrain modes

Here's a gameplay video: http://tiltforums.com/t/4-acdc-luci-videos-by-pinball-mayhem/3838

Here's some competition play that I believe is all post-1.70 (the first four links) https://pinballvideos.com/m/ac-dc

#491 5 months ago
Quoted from Snailman:

Not that I'm aware of. Reference the game code release notes -- it's quite descriptive: http://f0727d06e1d39b514478-a613b39d02a32124478c749a23d19af0.r44.cf5.rackcdn.com/ACD170LE-README.TXT
TL;DR....
- Jam & Tour MB are easier to qualify. And the subsequent MB's of all three types are easier to get to.
- Added new "STUFF" awards that can be collected from Tunes n Stuff via R loop to upper saucer (after completing a set of Devil Horns shots)
- Big changes to BIB and LTBR modes, making them easier, more lucrative, and more interesting.
- Increased scoring to FTATR, TNT, and R&RTrain modes
Here's a gameplay video: http://tiltforums.com/t/4-acdc-luci-videos-by-pinball-mayhem/3838
Here's some competition play that I believe is all post-1.70 (the first four links) https://pinballvideos.com/m/ac-dc

That is awesome. Thanks very much for posting the info, much appreciated.

#492 5 months ago

Mini wizard mode and bug fixes would be cool. But all I really want still is the ability to disable the cannon mech and have the ball drop to the right inlane to shoot instead.

#493 5 months ago
Quoted from Snailman:

Not that I'm aware of. Reference the game code release notes -- it's quite descriptive: http://f0727d06e1d39b514478-a613b39d02a32124478c749a23d19af0.r44.cf5.rackcdn.com/ACD170LE-README.TXT
TL;DR....
- Jam & Tour MB are easier to qualify. And the subsequent MB's of all three types are easier to get to.
- Added new "STUFF" awards that can be collected from Tunes n Stuff via R loop to upper saucer (after completing a set of Devil Horns shots)
- Big changes to BIB and LTBR modes, making them easier, more lucrative, and more interesting.
- Increased scoring to FTATR, TNT, and R&RTrain modes
Here's a gameplay video: http://tiltforums.com/t/4-acdc-luci-videos-by-pinball-mayhem/3838
Here's some competition play that I believe is all post-1.70 (the first four links) https://pinballvideos.com/m/ac-dc

Looking forward to the oi mania fix.

And still hoping Lyman adds whatever he has created for completing 6 songs.

Please

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