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New 6 inch speakers found

By KenLayton

5 years ago


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    #1 5 years ago

    For those with early solid state games from Williams, Gottlieb, and Bally which use a 6 inch full range speaker, they have been hard to find at times. I've found an excellent replacement at Newark (formerly MCM Electronics).

    http://www.newark.com/mcm-audio-select/55-5690/6-5-full-range-dual-cone-speaker/dp/95Y2940?ost=55-5690&scope=partnumberlookahead&exaMfpn=true&searchref=searchlookahead&ddkey=http%3Aen-US%2FElement14_US%2Fw%2Fsearch

    It's 6.5 inches but the mounting holes all line up with 6 inch original speakers. This is full range, 8 ohms @ 50 watts. I just put one in an Eight Ball Deluxe and it fit & worked perfectly. So crisp and clear is the sound now. We just bought a dozen of them because the price was so good. Each speaker was individually boxed too. We paid about $6 per speaker.

    Newark # 95Y2940 or MCM # 55-5690.

    #3 5 years ago
    Quoted from SDAmusements:

    Have you found any good replacement speakers for the Stern pro model speakers?

    No, I haven't really looked for modern Stern machine speaker replacements. Most people were simply buying Pinball Pro or Flipper Fidelity upgrade speaker kits.

    The specs I've seen for Stern "pro" speakers are these:

    Cabinet floor speaker: 8 inch, round, woofer, 4 ohms, 25 watts

    Backbox speakers (both are the same): 4 inch, square, midrange, shielded magnet, 8 ohms, 10 watts

    My buddy Welby Bergum and I have been doing so many older Williams, Gottlieb, and Bally solid states lately. I'm seeing more and more coming in with bad speakers (rotted, corroded, blown, or dead). Had an Addams Family come in 3 weeks ago which had virtually nothing left of the paper cone in the cabinet floor speaker. Those MCM/Newark 6 inch speakers are a godsend and at such a reasonable price too.

    #6 5 years ago

    If you're talking about an 8 inch woofer for the cabinet bottom in a Stern Pro, check out these two speakers:

    http://www.newark.com/mcm-audio-select/55-3231/70w-rms-4-ohm-rubber-surround/dp/43W7872

    http://www.newark.com/mcm-audio-select/55-3210/100w-rms-4-ohm-paper-cone-woofer/dp/43W7867?st=8%20inch%20speaker

    And check out those prices, very reasonable.

    One is rated at 70 watts and the other at 100 watts. They aren't gonna blow!

    Those were from just taking a quick look on Newark's website. I have not actually tried those 8 inch ones.

    #7 5 years ago
    Quoted from MT45:

    Had to replace a missing one in Data East and ended up slapping a Stern modern one in as a placeholder.

    I forgot about Data East. Never paid much attention to the speakers they had. Guess I'll have to check out the next one that comes in for repair or restoration here.

    Game Plan might use the same speaker too.

    #8 5 years ago
    Quoted from MT45:

    Thank you sir! Just ordered 6.

    You ought to receive them quick. Newark is in South Carolina and ships speakers via UPS. We got ours in a week since we are in Washington state.

    #11 5 years ago
    Quoted from Gryszzz:

    Wondering if these will work in a Sinbad?

    Yes, it should.

    #14 5 years ago

    Just to add to this thread, if anyone with a Bally classic with the volume control mounted on the coin door, here is the correct volume control for you:

    https://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&freeText=140514&langId=-1&storeId=10001&productId=140514&krypto=jnhODawy5%2Frl%2Ff63cm3HsfgdnTUpjE2armGD8g1oT3G12sxv0QS5GjyMxoLNTTys5cAP765sw6fT8ZXqORrVytXVGtZyQSJ%2Fg7DxMjY3kDc%3D&ddkey=https%3AStoreCatalogDrillDownView

    Jameco Electronics # 140514 just $3.95 each. Time to replace those old "scratchy" or fluctuating ones.

    This also works on classic Stern solid states.

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    #20 5 years ago

    I just put one into a Stern Orbiter 1 machine. It's a bit tricky getting it to fit because of the unusual mounting place in the neck of the machine. I'll try to get pictures later today. It does fit perfectly on the speaker mounting board, but you need to use 3 inch long screws to mount the whole works back in the machine.

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    #22 5 years ago

    The Eight Ball Deluxe and the Stern Orbiter 1 I just put these speakers in sure sound alot better and crisper! Great for games with speech.

    #23 5 years ago
    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    I received my speakers today, and found exceptional Quality for $6.00 a speaker!
    Thanks Again!

    They sure sound better than the wimpy original speakers.

    #25 5 years ago

    I think for the dozen we bought was about $25 on UPS. US Mail would have been about $45.

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    #36 5 years ago
    Quoted from Stretch7:

    Just recieved mine as well ... they also work in WPC cabs

    How did it sound in a WPC cabinet?

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    #40 5 years ago
    Quoted from jimmyb:

    Thanks for sharing the link!!! I just ordered 6 $20 for 3-5 day shipping to Canada! Can't wait to install these!

    Did you receive them yet?

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    #46 5 years ago

    Just checked their stock. As of today, there is only 16 left. Next shipment is due on June 17, 2019. I'd say if you guys need any now, you'd best get them ordered now or else wait until June 17th.

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    #48 5 years ago

    Now "Out of Stock" until the middle of June.

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    #62 3 years ago

    Updating this thread. I've found another source of good quality 6" (6.5" ) speakers in both 8 ohm and 4 ohm models.

    Parts Express # 292-546 (kinda pricey at $18.98) This is 8 ohms 40 watt RMS

    https://www.parts-express.com/visaton-bg17-8-65-full-range-speaker-with-whizzer-cone-8-ohm--292-546

    Parts Express # 292-456 (reasonable price of $7.79) This is 4 ohms 40 watt RMS

    https://www.parts-express.com/grs-6as-4-6-1-2-dual-cone-replacement-car-speaker-4-ohm--292-456

    #64 3 years ago

    In general, the lower the impedance, the more power drawn from the amplifier.

    #67 3 years ago

    Never had a Viking. I don't know what it came with or how it's mounted. I will have to hazard a guess and say it was simply screwed to the cabinet bottom. In that case you'd simply spot new holes with a 3/32" drill bit for some #6 by 3/4" long screws.

    #69 3 years ago
    Quoted from Ballypalooza:

    Hey Ken, it’s the same speaker as Playboy and others of that era. I think Quench said maybe a 4 1/2? I could put in a new base plate and fit a bigger in there, but would the sound board still drive it and sound alright?

    I found a picture of the bottom cabinet of a Bally Kiss. Looks like it had a 5" speaker just screwed down on a wood square. Looks big enough to hold a 6.5" and the amplifier should driver it perfectly fine and sound good.

    #71 3 years ago

    You'll probably have to cut a new piece of wood to mount the new speaker.

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    #82 3 years ago
    Quoted from northvibe:

    Ping this same thing! What is the new speaker people are using? I have a galaxy and more I wouldn't mind throwing in or putting on my xmas list

    Go back to post #62 here:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-6-inch-speakers-found/page/2#post-5815679

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