When I see vpins fs they are usually full size and $2k+. Plus the maintenance of a real vpin can be overwhelming. For the cost and the age of kids, IMO perfect. If they drop $100 before the holidays they’ll fly off the shelves. It’s the price point of people not really caring if they get played more etc, just like the Arcade1up

Shit.. I have well north of $5k in my Vpin. However, it is loaded with the best of the best hardware, full force feedback, with 8 contactors and relays to replicate the feel of slings and bumpers, shaker motor, lights, etc etc etc.

Those $1-2k vpins are why people hate them. It's like driving a 1960's Volkswagon beetle and deciding that all German cars suck.

Man the only people I know that hate them are on this forum but when I went to build, I was doing the 5k path with feedback and relays, I want mine to have the real feel. Otherwise it isn’t worth the effort imo. But a few hundred for my kids to have fun, that’s in the don’t care camp imo

So, a $400 vpin will be awesome then? I’d wait for some reviews before dumping $400 on what might be a disposable. They are hitting a good price point though. Should sell a bunch.

Out of curiosity, does anyone offer this quality level of Vpin assembled or a kit or is the only way to net this via DIY?

There are several high end vpin makers such as vpcabs and virtuapin if you can't or don't want to DIY.

Reviews? It’s a Children’s Toy! Lol why do we feel the need to judge the actual toy as if it’s an Adult toy just because it has pinball in the title? Will Road and Track be doing a review on the peddle Car I bought hit also because it’s a Car? Amazing how over the top serious people get about a simple toy to make a child happy. The comments in this thread are comical.

I'm in for one if I see a Black Friday special in the next week!!

I have worked on most of the makers, including Virtuapin. No. No kit will compare to what you can build yourself. I haven't found a single one that is even close to the quality of mine.

Those poor kids that get this pin are going to be ‘poor’ pinball adults

But they will be happy

#onemorepin #pinbroke #pinballaddiction

Just messing around ...

? I check reviews on EVERYTHING. Surely you don’t blindly buy shit and hope for the best?? Nothing to do with this being pinball related. To be clear, I’m not saying subject it to Stern level criticism but just generally, is it worthless shit that doesn’t work. You must do that normally, no? Also, it’s $400, not $20 bucks.

Any good DIY threads or sites that you could point me to in order to get the scope of the project? I have a full wood shop ready to use and am always down for a good project to keep me busy. Although my MAME project is at the 2 yard line and has been for like 2 years lol. Stupid front end programming still to do and it's a huge PITA to get it to do everything I want it to. Kind of like my AFM full restore that needed like 2 weekends of work for 2 years that I finally got done.

Yup. That’s happening. Calm down.

Your so right I will tell him I need to count the coils and see the code on this Huge toy investment because Pinside said so. lol Seriously, its a Toy! If you don't have Young kids or grandkids I totally understand but this doesn't seem worthy of a right/wrong debate....

Some good sites are VPUniverse.com and VPForums.com
Also the Visual Pinball Junkies group on Facebook has a full FAQ guide of setting up the software.
There is also a VP Cabs Builders FB group.

All chocked full of great info. But there are NO shortcuts to having a good cab. Unlike MAME, you can't download packs of tables and such, as each setup is different.

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All I can say is if anyone is getting this to mod it and think it will be able to play anything other than what the company puts out, you are dreaming. Its a basic config to run the games they want to run (SS, simple roms). Its a kids game and a nice entry machine for them if you have nothing or want to put something in their room, etc. I can't understand people sometimes. Buy it, set it up and play it, period. Installing a new monitor and cpu and fx2,3 vp, etc is out of the question, you need to build your own vpin for that.

I hope this model does great for the company as its the first entry level vpin on the market that can play a few tables. Good for them, hope it brings some more people into our hobby.

Buy the kids a Nintendo Switch and some games for the same price. This is not gonna hold their interest long term - because pinball. All their friends will be getting sweet console games and playing multiplayer online - and these poor kids getting coal...err, Gottlieb virtual pinball for Christmas.

I'll likely buy one just to put in the gameroom as a neat, cheap, decoration and have zero expections on how it compares to a real pin. Because I don't care if you throw $5k into a virtual pin, it still does not compare to real pinball.

Yeah, A Switch + a copy of Star Wars Pinball, and it's like $100 less to boot. Pretty sure Pinball Arcade is on there too, so you could load up the same Gottlieb games being shown on there. Heck, Zen Studios even includes the "tate" feature to rotate the screen into portrait mode for a better aspect ratio. Works great on a TV if it can turn 90 degrees on its stand.

I like this thing at 200-250$. Cool toy nice to see pinball getting exposed to a new generation. Everyone loves pinball they just don't know it yet

Could be a good way for Pinball to gain in popularity. Buy that thing then want a real one.

Pinball already IS gaining popularity. That's why this exists now.

Tim Arnold is running around the Las Vegas area buying up each and every one he can find in an attempt to pull a "Popeyes chicken sandwich deal" and sell them for $150.00 more for Christmas.
He may not be aware of Wal Mart.com

Ok, then ill change that to gain even more popularity..

My kids have multiple switches. And every other console for that matter. And they are getting games for those as well. This is basically just something extra to fill up their game room but not “coal” as they are getting several other things. But I do expect it may not hold their interest forever. On the points about about not being possible to become a VP. I disagree. It won’t be near as easy as multicading a 1up but it’s still possible. You’ll probably be using the original buttons, monitor and cab and then it will take a new PC. So no you probably will not be able to add tables. But converting to a VP is obviously possible.

Multiplayer online gaming is awesome. Seriously, I think it is really good for kids overall.

But there's a benefit to actually interacting with people in the real world, too. So maybe, just maybe, games like pinball and the arcade1ups can provide some impetus for the kids to actually get together and have fun.

This thread is a reminder that there are a lot of spoiled-ass kids out there. I know that many (most?) pinball collectors are quite successful and want to share that success with their kids. But game rooms filled with multiple $400+ toys? Damn.

Big reveal announcement:

The very first Toyshock Digital Pinball Machine is on it’s way and will be arriving at “PDubs Arcade Loft” on Wednesday 27th! We're excited to bring you the exclusive unboxing LIVE event from the Official Facebook Fan Page!

Looks interesting. I'll check Walmart to see when they have one on display....

This should be exciting to see! And it’s tomorrow!

I'm really wishing this company well. Maybe they hit an all new market and be the next big thing. The folks on the FB page are very welcome to comments. GO TOYSHOCK!!!

This almost certainly uses the Farsight engine, given the Gottlieb list, so you should know what to expect in terms of feel.

Does make one wonder if there's a home market for a same size cab at a reasonable price with original games in it, homebrew conversions, or ones that would benefit from a 'second chance' - Full Throttle, Wrath Of Olympus, Circe's Animal House and others. You would NOT sell it via the toy market though; that's how you lose your shirt.

Live unboxing at 8PM EST

https://www.facebook.com/PDubsArcadeLoft/

Looks pretty good from the video.

Dang I missed it. Anything new or cool?

This sounds pretty fun. Will you be spending the first hour plus of podcast assembling the pin? It took me six hours to assemble a 1up arcade and that was very boring to watch.

The platform is Pinball Arcade by Farsight.
Game size isn't bad. Actually thought it was smaller. If you wanted it to sit a little higher you can spend $5.00 to buy 4 furniture/bed risers. Since you're not going to be nudging it around would work great. Cab looks to be pretty sturdy. The wide ugly gray bezel is metal and removable so could be painted black easily. I see lots of modding potential for it. Looking forward to what they do next.
PS: It's a toy. An inexpensive virtual pin. But looks fun.
Here are several pics from Facebook. (Not my pictures or games)

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Very, very cool thing. Looks fairly doable to replace the screen (24"?) with a bigger one (27"?).

Damn! The one game I wanted to see played was C 37!

Hope this goes on some sort of Black friday sale today or tomorrow. Come on walmart.

I wonder if full size legs will bolt on?

If that happens, I may get one.....

If they don’t, they can be made to bolt on with a drill bit.

Dang it...I went from laughing at this when I first saw it to wanting one for Christmas.

Even though I have these titles on my PS4, this looks pretty cool.

I noticed the legs sit high up the cabinet sort of like the front legs on a modern Stern machine. Plus there's no levelers...just rubber protectors. What is the length of the legs?

The cabinet looks sturdy enough that a person could fit normal pinball legs on it and use a normal leg bolt mounting plate (if needed).

One suggestion I would do is paint that white frame around the monitor semi-flat black. Too much glare coming off it IMO.

By the way, where is the power supply in this game?

What paperwork came with this game? Any schematics? What does the paperwork say about servicing the machine?

I'd paint or powder coat the frame green to match rest of game, assuming its metal. Wonder if you can add incline to game to speed up the ball in the settings or is it fixed?

Nope, as a matter of fact Walmart has pushed delivery dates till DEC 7th and may need even more time. Rumor says 850 units sitting at a ship yard.

That’s either an android som or a super stripped x86.... I’m betting for cost it is a android arm som kit. They are ultra cheap and then they just throw on the android app/build and auto boot to it.

If this goes on sale, awesome I’ll get a cheap $100-200 x86 nuc and mod with vpin. That would be killer