I'm laughing at my friends on Facebook who have tried to find one. Built a RetroPie last year, and have had no desire to get this NES Classic Edition.

Also spent the week building my second Gameboy Zero. ALL the game in one portable system.

Even the official video from Nintendo Europe shows the same flicker of the sprites that the RetroPie emulator has.

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I've got the parts coming to build this. Already 3D printed the case. Was funny timing that this guy posted this just days before or after the NES Classic was announced. But this guy did Nintendo better than Nintendo.

Usually means that they probably have a box of them somewhere in the back and they are just misplaced or overlooked, and they are too lazy to go back at that moment to look again. Or too busy to leave the floor for an extended period of time. Used to work in Electronics department in college, and that's what I did. If our inventory said we had a few of them, we had a few of them. Sometimes things were burried from the distributor. So a big box could contain everything from electronics to cosmetics to sporting goods. I would do general searches, but if it came down to digging through boxes, who knew how long it would take to find, so I would just say we didn't have any in stock and the numbers hadn't been updated.

Because it's like a snowball effect. With a low quantity first batch, those who have wanted one from day one will post topics about how hard they are to find in the store, on forums that deal with another subject. Then as more and more people read those posts, more people want in on the action to find one in the store. Then it's a second hand set of people who never wanted one in the first place, but then do after seeing how hard it was to find one, and then they found one.

Then those second hand people will post about finding them, while there are still some from the first set that have yet to have found one. Then after months of this talk, 3rd and 4th tier groups now want into the action of being able to find these in the store.

Now if they released just enough plus a little extra to cover everyone who wanted one from day 1, then no discussion would have ever taken place, and the "Hunt" to find one in the store would not be there.

That's how this works. They couldn't care less about the $100's that people are making on ebay. They are playing the long con.

I didn't think I'd care about the Wii after 2 years, I still didn't, but I did buy one when I saw one.

AT least 244 of them. So he spent $14,640 before tax. Wonder if those were the ones that "fell off the truck?" From the sounds of it, I'm guessing all the stores combined in some large cities didn't even get that many.

Played some Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, over the holiday weekend. Never have played it before.

I've built a RetroPie Tv Console, but this Gameboy Zero is my favorite. ALL the games in the old classic gameboy. Even my brother-in-law was playing Pokemon Yellow pretty hard. So awesome being able to play all the games that you've always wanted, but either never had that system, or even knew you wanted the game.

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Better than you've ever seen a game like that before. They are pixel perfect. I was skeptical. But there's no way you can get a clearer picture.

It's kind of amazing knowing that we're playing games that look better than what the guys who made the games saw when they were developing them.

$300 and you can have my first Gameboy Zero. Download capability, and stocked with 1000's of games. All the NES, SNES, and Genesis games.

Actually. Well, I wouldn't technically be able to sell you the games.

They need new ideas, and not remakes of their main IP's. I used to love Call of Duty. But stopped buying them every year 2-3 years ago, because it was the same thing dressed differently.

If all the characters between Mario and Zelda are the only main draw to the console, people are going to get burnt out. They need to get publishers behind it to create unique games that only the Switch can handle. The Wii U was close. Otherwise, Nintendo may as well do a Sega, and make games for the other systems.

They also need to discover those new up and coming developers. Get some great games from them, and sign an exclusive deal. Ports from the big publishers mega games never get the same treatment. They feel like a half-assed game trying to duct-tape new functionality to them.

I bought one of those Genesis things a few years ago. Went to the game replay store to buy some old games. About half of what I bought would play on it. Not all original games are compatible with it.

*Edit.

About the Lag, are we sure it's controller lag, and not framerate?

Agree that the TV settings can cause lag. Pinball Arcade was unplayable on the PS4. Changed TV mode to Game, and it was fine. But I guess when I first read jwo825's post about Megaman with Lag, my first thought was a slowdown in framerate since he mentioned 2 games with that problem, and not all of the games.

Most likely your TV settings then. My RetroPie Console had lag until I switched the display mode to the Gaming Preset. Go into your settings on your TV where you'd change brightness and contrasts and stuff, and see if your TV has a Gaming preset.

For as well in advance that they announced the NES Classic, they should have had boat loads already over to cover all sales. But they just won't give up their marketing plan. Didn't they do that with the Wii U, and no one really cared? They didn't sell as hot as they were. I agree with Ben, the switch looks nice, but I bet it will be like Snakes on the Plane. Everyone loves it now, but won't support it when it's actually out.

I've got a Facebook friend who's made several angry posts about not being able to get an NES Classic. I've told him twice that I would build him a Raspberry Pi RetroPie for the same price. He's said "maybe" twice. I'm not going to push it. But even with me explaining that there'd be no discernable difference between it and the NES Classic, plus all access to the games, I think some people just don't like the idea of a home built system. Not that they are against "borrowing" games, but because just the idea intimidates them. It took me a while to finally build one because no matter how many times people said to do it, I just didn't figure I'd be happy with the outcome. Figured there had to be something wrong with it.

I also haven't done PC emulation just because I'm afraid of the emulation software. Again, just that stereotypical feeling that the software is shady, and that I'll get a virus. I feel safer with a RPi.

So in NES Classic news, and I'm sure this will rub some people the wrong way. I saw last Friday Amazon made a tweet about the NES being available on Prime Now in the Indy Area. I was quick enough to get one. As soon as I got it, I took photos of it, and posted it to ebay. After my initial purchase and after ebay, paypal, and shipping fees, I made $78 from it.

You mean like this Gameboy Zero I built? Love this thing. Really wish I had this when I was 12. Road trips would have been much better.
http://consolebuilders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=4&sid=cc0573a094bf7f91d17d149d27d57c15#p4

You're right. It is a pretty big project to tackle. Took me maybe 16 hours to build, and wasn't necessarily super cheap either. But the thing is pretty awesome.

Your tone sounds like maybe you do give a fuck.

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If anyone is curious about building their own Retro Console, I've actually started a forum because a project from someone else went dead in the water. The fans of that project are now trying to build their own versions.

The forum is new, so not a whole lot of info yet. Hoping to have some members start sharing their process and builds.

http://consolebuilders.com/forum

I do not know why, but the only TMNT game I'd ever owned was the very first one for the NES. It was terrible. And I longed for a version just like the Arcade game. And I had no idea that there were like 5 versions of TMNT just like the arcade game. And one of them was the arcade version for the NES.

I don't know why I never had any of them. Especially the Genesis version. So I've been playing through that version on my RetroPie Console. Grateful for save states!

Same here. Went from NES to Genesis. Only played SNES at my friends and Walmart. I even have a nice Star Fox lapel pin for their Weekend tournament they held.

Road Rash and Streets of Rage were my jam.

Couple years ago I realized that NES games are pretty expensive. Our local Game trader store was selling a nicely boxed (but opened) copy of Contra for like $100. Zelda was like $60.

Makes me wonder what my collection is worth. I know I sold a bunch of NES games in the early 90's at a yard sale that I probably wished I still had. But know I have near-mint copies (with mint boxes) of Zelda, Mike Tyson, and Mario 1 & 2.

What's the most valuable common NES game? I mean one that everyone probably had. Not that super rare track and field game. Just curious what games everyone wishes they didn't get rid of.

I don't think I ever got past the Raptors nest. I need to look up youtube to see if someone has the full playthrough. Not sure if I ever saw the Trex.

Leveling up in Dragon's Lair? Thought it was linear cartoon? I didn't understand that game. I wanted full control over movement.

Never was an RPG person. The very first Zelda was the only one I'd ever really played until Oblivion (360). So I couldn't even think of anything that sounded similar to Dragon's Lair.

I miss sports bloopers.

YES! And I cannot find it! I thought I knew exactly where it was in my parents house, but it wasn't there. Was wanting to put it on my display shelf. Considered ordering one from ebay, but decided not to, because it wasn't "mine."

But yes. So terrible.

The switch could very easily be the PS Vita. The Vita had so much potential. Love the Uncharted game, and rarely played anything else after that. The developers just crapped up the games. Also didn't help that the AAA developers handed their titles down to the B and C teams.

The Vita had power, some games were cross-buy, so you'd be able to take your games with you. But the screwed it up with the stupid menu system, and the rear touchpad taking over the L2+R2 buttons.

I so wanted to love Mega Man. Had a friend who had a couple, and he was really good at them. But then when I played, I became impatient and couldn't stay alive. Even today I can't stand playing any Mega Mans.

...and not use footage from a Madden game from the PS3.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386582,00.asp

Also probably doesn't hurt that Microsoft screws up their systems. Just bought a XBone before Christmas with their special pricing, after loving my PS4 for over a year now. And they're still making the menu system a cluster. I have no idea how to navigate around. They ended up doing the same with the 360 over time, and I eventually stopped playing it because of it. And I actually haven't touched my Xbone since Christmas because the menu makes me feel claustrophobic.

Microsoft has just made it confusing to use. I had no idea where to launch my game from. It's pretty obvious where stuff is at with the PS4. The first gen of the 360 software was so much easier to use and navigate through their menu system.

Could be talking about the previous version of the software. While I think the disc was always first, within the year they've finally added back the image and title of the movie to show in the menu. Something the PS3 had pretty much always done, but the PS4 didn't do. Before it was a generic disc icon with "Bluray" under it. So if he was used to looking for the title of the movie, like I was the first time, I could see it.

Now the Xbox One. That was confusing. Why the heck do I have to download the player? Why wouldn't it already be installed?

I still use my PS3 as my main bluray player because of the previous lack of Movie thumbnail, title, and 3D support.

I had a PS3 from a few months after launch. It was one with backwards capability. But a couple years ago I had used it so much, the thing died 3 times. I was able to fix it the first 2 times, but after the third, I decided to get the new slim. But while the fat one made noise, I didn't find it distracting. I think my 360 disc drive made more noise that the Fat PS3 did.

I wondered if the time was coming soon, where consoles started to bridge into the PC word. Meaning, small upgrades.

In the past, consoles were pretty much the same throughout their life. They may get a re-design, new smaller internals, but they still pretty much did everything exactly the same.

With this PS4 Pro, and the Xbox Scorpio to come out, it seems that instead of waiting a couple more years to release the next completely new version, they just bump up the hardware a bit.

But I agree. I bought a PS4 a year ago. Now, do I have to worry about games that come out in a year or two only being supported on the Pro?

That was exactly my reason for holding out. I was still playing and enjoying the PS3. There just seemed to be less of a jump in graphics and awesomness from the PS3 to the PS4 like there was from the PS1 to PS2 to PS3.

When the PS3 came out, I couldn't ditch the PS2 any quicker. But really had no desire for the PS4 until Fallout 4 came out.

Just feels that technology isn't jumping like the leaps and bounds like it used to. Meaning PC power. Where everything pretty much doubled every 6 months. Now it's all incremental bumps. I wouldn't be surprised if this current generation of consoles lasts longer than the previous. Which I think is the reason why they are updating their systems now. 4K and VR are the new things, so they are including them now, instead of waiting for the next generation of systems.

Remember when it was a big decision to spend $400 on a 35in CRT TV, and then you had it for like 20 years? Because you had to also think about and purchase the perfect entertainment center that held your VCR, NES, and Cable descrambler, along with the stacks of VHS tapes of recorded episodes of Dallas.

Went to Target yesterday and saw they already have an endcap already boxed off waiting for the Switch.

When the first teaser came out at the end of last year, I would was sworn we wouldn't see it for another year and a half.

I see Gamestop is still doing the "We're going to make you buy a bunch of crap," pre-order system.

http://www.gamestop.com/switch

It's tempting to pre-order, but I just can't get enthused by the games. Love the system and what it can do, but I really don't want to only play Mario and Zelda on it. I know Nintendo is in it's own market, and by having all the same games that the Xbox and PS have, wouldn't do it any good. But this is the kind of system I'd love to be able to play GTA or Battlefield on.

I bought a New 3Ds last year because of nostalgia, but at that time, I wished they didn't charge $5 for every single retro game. Just wished they'd at least make bundles and volumes.

Well, I decided to order a Switch. Target sold out. Bestbuy sold out. Walmart sold out.

I decided not to buy a Switch.

Just got from from Gamestop. They have the system by itself now.

Stupid Hype. Oh well. I bought a WiiU last year, and have only played it like 5 hours. Got it because of Mario maker. Figured I'll dump off the WiiU and replace it with the switch.

I hate pre-ordering special editions from Bestbuy. Been screwed over twice. The one I remember though, is I went up to customer service to pick up, and the lady brought me the regular version. I said, no, that's not the one. She said, it's X though. Yes, it is, but look at the price, what I ordered is more than that. Then she called over the manager who did and said the EXACT same thing that she did. "But this is X though." Again, yes, but look at the price, mine is the special edition. So the manager went over to the shelf, looked, and then came back and said, "We had a midnight launch last night. We must have sold it then. Would you like the regular version?" No, I will be getting a full refund and purchasing the regular version from someone else.

10 years ago. I'm not bitter anymore.

Not sure why I did the in-store pickup. Maybe there was a shipping cost? Or maybe would have come a day later? Or actually felt like not being lazy? But after that, I've done it again. Was not a happy camper.

I feel that a lot of the pre-orders are probably those who jumped on the hype-train, or are hoping that the system is hard to find when it's released so that they can resell it. I don't think that selling out of the pre-orders proves anything right now.

And since I figured I'd give my Wii U another shot, I went to go find some cheap games for it. And geez. No wonder it's kinda failed. Seems all the retailers have abandoned the system. I know the Switch is coming out soon, but they should have a few more games than just a handful of titles that are $60 and clearanced musical games. Doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

I did find one store that had Zelda Wind-whatever and Marioland whatever for $20 each. Picked those up.

Never liked how games on the NES, SNES, and Genesis kept to the arcade way of thinking. By giving you a time limit, lives, or a limited number of continues, and if you run out, you have to start completely over. And if you think about it, when games started to remove those restrictions, arcades became more scarce. Arcades were still pretty strong during the life of the NES, and mostly through the SNES and Genesis.

Always wanted a Game Genie, but just never got one. Was one of those things that my parents wouldn't buy for me, and I'd rather buy a game with my money than the Game Genie. Recently I'd been looking on ebay to see what they're going for, just buy one just to have. Still may.

Same here. And I don't even think I'd boot it up. Would probably go on my display shelf.

Been playing a little bit of Zelda Wind Walker for the WII U, and damn those controls suck. The "A" button seems to everything. I can't stop from diving everywhere. And I can only play with my up/down look inverted, and there's only an option to invert them in first person view. So i'm either looking straight up or straight down most of the time.

Just hope that the Switch version of Zelda has better controls, or I'll probably end up selling the system.

It's usually when I spin the camera around, and a lot of the times, it's not just a straight Left or Right, I always add just a tiny bit of up and down, and when I go to correct it, I'm going backwards to what I'm used to, so it just ends up being straight up or down.

Try playing a FPS with the up and down inverted to how you like it, and you'll see. Although, I'm a rarity, in that I can't stand the default up and down controls, so I always have to go into the settings and invert them. Drives my friends nuts if we play and pass.

Unique controls are one thing. But when controls are standard with every other game, and they go against it, that's another. The main thing is that I cannot change the up and down controls like I can in every other single game. And one button does WAY too much. The dive and roll button is the same as the pick up and open button.

I wonder how many would be able to tell the difference between the two versions. "This grass sounds...more realistic." Not sure why they would make two different quality sound files. I can't imagine the Wii U not being able to handle it.

Maybe. But I'm not an audiophile, just seems that audio has stayed relatively unchanged for a while, unless you get into the whole ultimate surround sound experience.

But could be that the Wii U at the time used inferior parts? I remember reading a story about the OG PS1, that someone figured out that it used super high quality audio components found in $500 receivers or something like that.

But...But...But. 4K gaming. HDR. 900p < 4K.

Also, found an article about the PS1. http://retrogamesandhardware.com/playstation-1-as-audiophile-quality-cd-player/

I always remembered Contra as "Select, Start." I always corrected people whenever they only said "Start". Then read up on it a few years ago that select start was for 2 players. Which is how I always played, since I never had the game, and always played at a friends house. And then instead of 30 lives, I always remembered it as 99 lives. Then read that the code had to be entered again maybe really really quickly during a certain screen to get 99 lives.

I remember the both of us beating the game 2 1/2 times on 99 lives. Once you beat the game, you can continue to start over again with the remaining ones.

So what was the last Zelda game made up till this point? Was there ever one exclusively built for the Wii U? I thought the Twilight Princess one was since it came with an Amiibo. I mean besides the new one yet to come out.

Forgot that you could also connect your GBA to the Gamecube for a second screen. I already had a GBA SP, and bought a GameCube just to play Medal of Honor and Metroid with the second screen.

I think I have around 900 games for the NES on my RetroPie setup. I need to weed out the crap. I'm pretty sure I'll never play any of the Sesame Street or Barbie games.

Was it a DVD player, or did it play movies on a CD?

I remember a regional department store had one on display. All I remember was playing a game with a truck driving through a canyon.

Yeah, let us know what you think about the VR experience. I've been playing the waiting game. Going to see if things get upgrades next year, or price breaks. Not sure if I want to go down the slightly cheaper PS4 way, or spend the extra money for an Vive or Rift.

Played the demo of RE7, and man, that's a good looking game. Haven't been that deep emotionally since Silent Hill 2. I really want to get RE7, but also need to play it with a friend, for ah... support.

I, very briefly, tried a PSVR demo at Fry's. But I think I know what you mean. I wore my glasses on underneath it, and I wasn't sure if the headset was fully on. I kept wanting to shove it closer to my face.

Saw a few headlines today that the rumor is that Nintendo is going to stop production of the NES Classic. The system can't be making them much, and with the Switch coming out, I can see them putting all resources into that, since they seemed to have sold quite a bit of pre-orders already. So I don't blame them I guess. Just kinda sucks because I was wanting a shelf display toy.

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/767007/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-NES-production-ended

If they retailed for $100, then sure, I'd say it's free money. But since it's $60, they can't be making a whole lot from them. You got the manufacturer, the crate shipper, the warehouse distributor, and then the retail stores, not to mention the license fee they probably have to pay for the games that aren't theirs. After everyone takes their piece of the $60, I'd say Nintendo probably isn't left with more than $10. And even though that $10 is pure profit, is it really enough to to mass-produce them non-stop when they're banking on the Switch, which no-doubt will have a much larger profit margin?

Sell 100k NES Classics? Or sell 100k Switches?

Just because something is popular and has demand, doesn't mean that it's worth it. I can sell all my stuff on Ebay, but for the amount of effort it took to make $10 profit, I might as well have just thrown the item in the trash.

That's my worry. Read a while back that it sounds like Spielberg may strip a lot of his own references and other 80's references out. That the story isn't about all that stuff. I think that's what I remember reading anyway.

Hopefully it will at least be fun.

I've got my Switch on it's way. I think the estimate is Monday delivery. But I'm still on the fence about it. I'm not going to open it up right away. I'm actually considering returning it. I ordered it with the hype, and a slow time with my projects. I'm getting really busy now, and don't have time to play much.

My Switch came yesterday right as I got home from work. Pulled into my driveway, got out of my car, and there was the UPS guy pulling in right behind me.

I ended up opening it up and playing it. Got Zelda. And I must say, it is very cool. I really do hope the system succeeds. Kinda bummed that the WII U that I rarely played and traded in for Switch credit, was the version that came with the download version of Mario Maker. Sucks that I can't load it onto the Switch and play.

The thing is a little smaller than I pictured. It does feel solid. Controls are nice. Not sure if I really want to spend the money for the Pro Controller though. Zelda controls are exactly how I'd expect them to work. No more frustration.

So I'll keep my Switch handy at my desk and play it every now and then while I'm waiting for video to render or just need to take a break.

Would you rather there be more non-pinball related posts started here on Pinside?

So I pre-ordered Zelda and have been playing it. Man the world is huge. Pretty great game. Kinda like Skyrim, but only more childish.

But this weekend I decided to go get Bomberman too. Loved playing it on the Gameboy, and have never played another version of it since. Went to Bestbuy, Walmart, Gamestop, and Meijers. All sold out. But every place had Zelda and the Dancing game. I would have thought Zelda would have been clearly sold out. Figured it'd be the game everyone bought, even if they were waiting for a system.

BUT...Target did have a lot of copies of Bomberman, but for some reason, I just couldn't ask the high school kid to open the case for me to get me a copy of it.

Oh, and Gamestop. Man, they must have been told to harass people as much as they can. I hate their game of 20 questions as soon as you walk in the door.

What brought you in today?
My feet.
What are you looking for?
I'm just looking.
What system do you have?
All of them.
What types of games do you like to play?
The fun ones.
Do you know about our specials?
No.
If you.....
I turned around, said thanks, and walked out. I wasn't having it. Just leave me alone.

SPOILER TIP FOR ZELDA. Well, not spoiler for story, but if you want to figure things out on your own, try to divert your eyes.









There is a trial where you have to navigate a rolling ball through a maze by tilting your controller. Like those labyrinth marble mazes. Well, I kept getting frustrated that the maze slowly kept re-orienting itself. It would not stay straight with how I was holding the controller, and it kept throwing me off. After a while, I got frustrated, and while I was moving the controller, the new ball dropped and landed in an area that was blocked off on all 4 sides. I couldn't roll the ball out. So I vigorously rocked the controller, to which the ball wouldn't come out. But then it hit me. Dump the ball out. I flipped the controller upside down and the ball fell out of the maze, and a new ball fell on the the now righted- bottom side. Without the maze to contend with, I was able to just directly navigate the ball to where it needed to go without any obstacle.

I feel that this was done on purpose. They created a smooth underside of the maze. I kinda feel like I discovered an easter egg that was built in for those of us that would get frustrated.








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Interesting. I knew that Amazon offered discounts on games for pre-ordering if you have Prime. But I saw that Bomberman was back in stock from Amazon, and it's $10 because I have Prime. Didn't check out any other games yet, but that's cool if they extend the discount post-release.

Anyone else already tired of Zelda? I keep playing it thinking that I'm going to get over the hump of when the game actually becomes fun, but I just don't see it. I guess I'm expecting it to be more like Skyrim. I absolutely hate that the weapons break after just 1 or two fights. I'm spending more time searching for shrines so that I can get more health hearts so that I can live longer, and it's just been killing the fun I should be having. Also hate lightning.

I guess I was hoping it to be more like Skyrim.

Pretty sure I'm not far at all. I have 4-5 main quests in my journal. Although some kinda feel like a side quest because I come across them on my way to somewhere, but show up under the main quest menu.

I've got the camera, and now I have to find the same locations shown in the album. And I think that's where I've decided that I would try to find shines and climb those towers to see if I can stumble across those locations.

But that's been what's hurting my fun the most. Guess I should look up to see where those spots are, so that I can progress in the main story.

Have they abandoned the NES Classic? I haven't seen anything about it since the Switch came out. I kinda expected that.

I keep looking at BrickSeek, and everytime I check, it says that it's <1% in stock. At one point a couple months ago, I saw 22%.

I keep checking Target, Walmart, and Bestbuy whenever I'm there. No special trips just for the NES, just general stops. I'm not hunting them out, but when I do see one on the shelf I'm going to get one. So it's no big deal.

But they obviously don't care about it as much as the Switch, or they'd be ramping up production. I've read a report that they are doing that with the Switch.

Well that worked out well. Said PrimeNow had it in stock, and just placed my order for one. Thanks. Searching done.

I'd half-believe it. RetroUSB proves that there's still money to be made in a 30 year old console. Plus, I wouldn't say that Nintendo isn't able to keep up with production. More like refusing the ramp up production. There'd be no excuse that there shouldn't be Classic NES's on the shelves of every store by this point.

We'll find out this fall.

I bought one of the $250 systems around Christmas. I bought Forza 5 and Forza Horizon 2. It came with Gears of War 4, but it kinda sucks. The Forza's are fun, but I haven't had really any desire to play it much. But I was the same way. I've got the system, now what? Since most games are on both PS4, and Xbone, I still prefer the PS4. I think the too overly complicated menu system of the Xbone kills it for me.

They did the same thing to the 360. Used to be nice and slick and easy to tell where you were at and needed to go. Then halfway through it's lifespan, they re-designed it, and made it very confusing. I stopped using my 360 pretty much as soon as that happened.

Look up "Xbox 360 Blade Menu" if you didn't have a system during that time.

I had to laugh at the Red Dead Redemption repackage. While looking for something to buy for my One, I saw they had RDR in XboxONe packaging. But upon closer look, it was the 360 version of the game, at full retail price of $50. But yet, you could get the "Best of" version or whatever they call their discount games for the 360, for $20 new.

Doesn't surprise me at all. Took just over 2 years before you could walk into any store at any time to see a Wii sitting on the shelf. It's only been 2 months for the Switch. And heck, the NES Classic still isn't fully available either.

I'd say for as popular as the Switch seems to be, it'll be at least next year before Nintendo fully ramps up production.

That was my favorite part too. Being able to play the games that I had always wanted, but never got to play. And also discovering ones that I never knew I should have gotten.

Makes me wonder if 20 years from now, we'll be building similar systems with all the PS4 and Xbone games.

Target still does I think.

I've never owned an SNES, but have spent hours playing it at Walmart. The same first levels of DK County, Starfox, Mario, some Hockey game, and a few others.

Had the first gen PS3 Fat. It started to fail a few years ago. I fixed it a few times. Fixed the laser. And then it had the Yellow light of death a few more times. I didn't want to give it up since it had backwards capabilities. But after the 4th time opening it up, I decided that it was time to just get a slim.

NES Classic Looks to be done for.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04/13/nintendo-discontinues-the-nes-classic-edition

Kinda sucks. I've got one now, but I'll never play it. Only wanted it for a shelf toy. I've got a facebook friend who has a 5 year old boy, and ever since it was released he's been in a pissed off mood about how he can never find one for his son to relive the games he grew up playing, and how the scalpers ruin everything. He reposts every article stating how much easier it is to find one now with a 3-5 paragraph rant about how terrible Nintendo and scalpers are. I'm sure an article about the shutdown of production won't make him any happier. I expect a 20 paragraph rant. I've offered to build him a Raspberry Pi system, but he won't take it.

That doesn't make sense either. They still have to sell the hardware to people to be able to do that. If anything, that'd boost sales. The Switch thing makes the most sense. There's more money to be made with that system in the long run.

Not surprising. I think this is what most people expected to happen. And it only makes sense.

Question is, do they put the previous NES games in an SNES Box? Or keep the two systems separate?

With the discontinued NES system, and the numerous people who still hadn't gotten one, I'd say the smart thing to do is to add both systems games into the new system. But for nostalgia reasons, if I didn't get the NES one, I'd still want them separate.

I remember when the Zapper gun first came out (the grey stand alone version), we searched and searched and searched and couldn't find it anywhere. My parents called all of our relatives to tell them to keep an eye out. To this day, I still remember my Dad's aunt as the one who eventually found the NES Zapper.

Anyone else's Switch nun-chucks starting to look dirty around the buttons? It's not dirt, but worn. Like the lighter grey color is rubbing off, revealing a darker grey color.

Super Fun? Super frustrating! I've played quite a few races and battles online, and I don't think I've finished any higher than 9th online. I can't get any traction. As soon as I start moving, I get hit with something.

Suppose local multiplayer would be funner. I need to find some friends.

Online is just too chaotic. Too many people, and too many available power ups for that many people. Wish there was a way to filter out race types. Like: No Power Ups, Only boosters, Very limited offensive power ups.

I think it's all randomly generated by the Nintendo servers. You just tell it if you want to race people regionally (looks to be people within your same continent, because I've raced people from Canada and Mexico) or Worldwide, and then are given the option of three different maps, and then the server picks the game type (battle) or speed (race. only seen 100 and 150).

I haven't seen an option to host my own online race. So I think they just do everything for you.

Any idea if that Star Fox 2 version is any different than the other ROMs floating around?

That's for sure. I had one of the first Nintendo DS's, and hadn't touched it for like 2 years. Powered right up with about 1/2 battery life left.

You guys seen the mini arcade cabs at Walmart? Think there's 4-5 version. All I remember is Pacman and Centipede. But unfortunately, even though they're all apart of the same collection, Pacman uses a screen similar to the old Tiger Electronics games, where Centipede uses an actual LCD display. I think they were $20 each. Maybe $30? Should have taken photos.

Pacman - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pac-Man-Mini-Arcade-Game/54370845
A Unisex version of Frogger - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Unisex-Adult-Retro-Arcade-Video-Game-Mini-Console-Frogger/417815790
Qbert - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Q-Bert-Arcade-Game-Family-Game-by-Schylling-9549/892253690
And a unisex version of Centipede - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Unisex-Adult-Retro-Arcade-Video-Game-Mini-Console-Centipede/860777140
Space Invaders - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Space-Invaders-Mini-Arcade-Game/54370846

Would have totally bought Pacman and Space Invaders if they used a full color LCD screen.

Saw someone say that both Bestbuy and Amazon had preorders last night. Now, what's the point of signing up for the "Email for Notification" if they don't notify you?

Could be something in their system to drive sales. The notifications system might not be set up to let you know exactly when an item is for sale, but it might be set up to let you know that they are not sold out yet. So they initially release it, let people buy them, and then after orders drop, they then let people know about it so that orders pick up again. Why pay for the service that sends out emails when they can let the product sell itself first.

I think everyone is hoping, but no one believes.

Speaking of Switch. What happened to their free game every month program? Thought their original plan it was going to be free for everyone this year, and then later on, you'd have to pay for the service?

Well what the heck. Got an email from WalMart 17 minutes ago saying that the SNES was in stock. But already sold out. I have a Pebble Smartwatch, and usually emails get notified on my watch, but not this time. If I had seen it when I got the email, I may have gotten one.

Saw the headline for that. I didn't realize it was a Summer 2018 thing though. Still, what's Nintendo thinking? SURE they will still sell them all in 2018, but why not get a head start, and start making and shipping them before Christmas? It's not like they need to spend more time developing it.

Aren't these Classic Editions emulators too anyways?

I've got a RetroPie setup on my TV, I've also built 3 Gameboy Zero's so far. But I also have the NES Classic and have the SNES Classic on pre-order. Those two things aren't 3D printed, or cheap China knockoffs. The SNES won't be played, just like the NES hasn't ever been plugged in. They will live on my display shelf in my office.

Other people are hard to convince that a Retropie system is just as good. I've still been trying to convince a friend to buy the stuff for one, and I'll put it together. He's still dead set on bashing Nintendo for their marketing practices.

I remember back during the GTA III days when Walmart said they'd do midnight releases. They said, "Wednesday at Midnight!" I showed up Tuesday at 11:50pm and then asked for a manager at midnight when no one was bringing the games out. One said it comes out "Wednesday at midnight." My roommate and I would be like, "yeah, that's right now."

Which is probably why I now see 12:01 am releases.

Saw a headline that the StarFox 2 Rom will play on the RetroPie. Hoping I can find it somewhere tonight. Also, kinda worried about my SNES Classic. Pre-ordered through Walmart. Got an email about a month ago saying that the delivery date will be this monday. Haven't heard a word or seen an update since.

Second wave. It was a really quick pre-order. I think they sold out in like 10 mins. Looked up my order info, and says it's preparing for shipment. So they still have the order.

Also looked up info about Star Fox 2. Found this a bit odd. Wonder why they did this? If this is true, there's going to be a lot of angry fans who didn't know this.

"An unreleased sequel to one of the SNES' best loved games, Star Fox 2 isn't immediately accessible when you switch on your new mini-gaming machine. In order to unlock the game, you'll need to beat the first level of the original Star Fox. Yep, it's as simple as that. If you just play through the first level, then go back to the main menu of the SNES Classic Mini, you'll have access to the sequel."
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/09/29/how-to-unlock-star-fox-2-on-the-snes-classic-mini

Well crap! Mine's still preparing, but I noticed that I paid with a card that's now been shut down because of the GD credit card skimmers. They only did a $1 hold and never charged for the full price. So I called up customer support to update my payment method, and they said they have no control over updating. Said the only option would be to cancel the order and reorder it. But would be no guarantee that I'd even have a shot at ordering one again.

SO Mother Effer.

Stopped in about 1pm for my lunch to get other stuff, and overheard our Target sold out in 20 mins.

I think we've become more aware of framerate slowdown since PC gaming and the past few generations of consoles. I remember some games becoming slow, but never once thought about it.

Playing games like Sonic again when he loses all the coins is really noticeable today.

I think it was Ducktales for the NES, the only way I was able to beat one of the bosses was from using the "Slow-mo" feature on the NES joystick controller. It basicly just paused the game rapidly.

Edit. Found it. It was Mickey Mousecapade. Here's the level that I couldn't ever beat at full speed. Ah.. .Nostalgic times. That music is still burned in my head.

If anyone's doing the Raspberry Pi/RetroPie thing, the RetroFlag case is back in stock on Amazon. Bought two, and they are a dead ringer for the NES Classic. Slightly different in size, but only noticeable if you put them side by side. These cases have been selling out, and selling for $60 on ebay and Amazon from other sellers. Also seen people using a Magic Eraser to remove the NESPi, and putting on their own stickers.

http://amzn.to/2fGJjLQ

NEScase (resized).jpg

*cough* Could have helped out *cough*

I've seen those, and have really wanted to buy one, but the one thing that's holding me back are the buttons in place of the stick switches on the console. If it had real metal switches like the old one, I'd totally get one.