Magilla:

With all this solid buying advice, you better report that you got it for $3,500!

Dan

So your saying you'll do it in private?

P.S. if they're dirty will you wash them for me

Were both funny.lol.....wait that sounds wrong. Moving on now.

Interesting approach. Never thought of that.

Do you think rolls of pennies could be even more effective?

DOHDan

Condition and how badly you want it, is the greatest factor. Bring you're highest offer with you, critique but don't insult the condition of his pin, then give it a play and arrive at the "this is what I'm thinking offer". You've got the cash and you can haul it away today edge.

So, how did the negotiations go? Did you get the pin? Whirl advice did you go with and did it work?

I think some of the worst advice given on here is to pull less cash out and lay it down. I find that insulting and amateurish. Maybe it worked for cash starved operators in the past, but you pull that on me and I'd throw you out of my house, even if you did eventually pull out the rest of the money. You need to treat the seller with respect and simply point out the facts and your assesment of the value. Pulling out a pile of cash is JV and says to the seller, hey I know you need the cash so you should take it. Fact is, today in the hobby, many don't need the cash and if someone does, I think they deserve a little more respect than using this tactic. IMHO.

Gorilla, congratulations on a great score!

I'm going to second this. If someone asks me what I want for a pin and I tell them $4500 and they show up with $4000 cash, I'm done dealing with that person, period. Keep in mind that someone with a $4000 machine in his house probably isn't all that motivated by money and has plenty of it. Feel free to make an offer of around $4000 if you feel that's fair. But none of these other tactics should be used - especially the one where you act like the deal is made at $4200. If some shyster pulled that crap here, I wouldn't sell them the pin at any price. Further, many of us are happy to just keep the pin of we don't get what we want for it. It's not like we are selling pins to pay the rent or eat.

I would not take kindly to someone waving cash at me like I had never seen a $100 bill before. I treat the other person with respect and expect the same. Selling or buying I have a bottom line number in mind. Don't go into a deal with fire in your belly. Ice in your veins works much better. Be prepared to say "Thanks, but it looks like we can't make a deal today."

It's a fine line-
getting a good deal
or making a mess of your rep/image

If I'm ever in a situation where we start to narrow down on the price, but can't settle over a hundred dollars or something (e.g., you offer $1500, he says "no, I really need $1600"), then I challenge him to a game on his machine for the final $100. I remind him it's his machine, he knows all the tricks and nuances, he should handily defeat me and get the price he wants. He accepts the offer and we do battle. And I play the greatest game of pinball ever and save myself $100.

Okay, I admit I've never done this, but I will one day!

Spraynard, I love it!

If you run into a true gambler, that could be a fun proposition. I would go for it in a heartbeat. Some people are very "prudish" towards gambling and may not like the suggestion too much.

Isn't pinball just a "gambling device" anyway!

Make him an offer he can't refuse!

If someone offered me 4k for my HUO lotr (and I DO have one), I wouldn't give a flying fuck if they had the money in their hands or not. I wouldn't take it. Not everyone is going to fall for whatever Jedi mind trick you pull on them. This reminds me of when I was selling a JM. I wanted 1400. It was in fabulous shape. The guy offered me 1200, and I just said no. He said, "well, what would you sell it for?" an I told him "uh... 1400."

I don't dick around with prices. If I post something, I usually make it a very good price. I don't need some stupid game of 'I make a price, then you counter bid, then and then and then SOLD.' I ask what I want. That's usually the end of it.

Best way to be, but unfortunately, you have few followers, thus, the nonsense.

Dan

grab them by the back of head and smash their face in the glass and say "so do we have a deal or what?"
be careful not to break the glass.