Luke Skywalker is Kylo Ren. There.

Agreed. This movie is proof.

Was trying to explain the whole SW thing to a 37 yo female who had never seen one. She kept saying Lucas sounded like kind of an ass. was hard to defend him after telling her about the special editions the prequels etc...

If you want to save a couple bucks, just watch Episode IV instead.

They're pretty much the same movie.

Say what you want about Lucas and his terrible ideas (Eps. 1-3, not 4-6), but at least they were original.

I think lucas had great ideas but his execution wasn't so good. He had someone else direct ESB and ROTJ- look how great those movies are.

I disagree. I think any and all SW fans should see the new movie.

Well wait a minute...there are some similarities...

I can't say there aren't some similarities. It's a valid point. What I took from it though was more the whole, "Lucas meant each trilogy to rhyme" thing.

I get what your saying but I do think it was done on purpose and for a reason. He was trying to redeem the franchise and also get it started in the right direction. In order to do that he needed to re-hash some old stuff and tie it in with some new direction.....and I think this movie accomplished all of the above. Redemption, familiar and points to new direction with new characters taking the lead from here.

"some"?!? I don't want to spoil anything for anyone, so I won't get into the specifics. I went with two of my brothers and we all said to each other towards the end of the movie, "If they start putting medals around people's necks, we're out of here".

Well you could even argue that this franchise was due for a bit of a rehash.....just to get it back on track after episodes 1-3.

Oh come on. You didn't enjoy it?? It was what it was. I enjoyed the bad guy and love Chewbacca even more.

In other words, leave before the credits roll?

I liked it, but only because Lucas had destroyed the franchise so badly with 1-3. Him selling the brand to Disney was the best thing that could have happened. I love JJ Abrams. From Lost to Super 8, I've seen it all. I just wish this movie would have been a little more original.

Oh, and don't even get me started on Kylo Ren.

Whatever you do don't go on Twitter, Reddit, or the *chans if you want to avoid spoilers.

I've seen it twice now.

On second viewing I enjoyed the first half even more, and the second half even less.

I know Disney wanted to play it safe with their $4 billion investment, but it didn't have to be THAT safe. All it had to do was "not suck" -which it accomplished - just wish it had a fresher story (so sick of Death Stars)

Finally! Someone who viewed the movie through a different lense.

Did the movie suck? Not at all.
Was it original? Uhhh, not really.

I'm excited for Ep. 8, I just wish it didn't borrow so much from Ep. 4 and 5.

Who cares, the movie was fun. Stop nitpicking so much ya fucking douchebags.

HA - HA!!!! I said the exact same thing!!! That's hysterical. I saw the 9:00 am show today. Theatre was packed! As the credits starts rolling you hear these two half-hearted claps coming from the rear of the theatre and I'm sitting there cringing and wondering if anyone else was going to join in. Nobody did. When people started lining up to walk out... let's just say that I've seen livelier funeral processions.

Again... when I saw "Phantom Menace"... I was mad. That was just a bad movie. When I saw this... I was more sad. It had the potential to be so good. The look... the pace... that new girl... they were all really good. But the story was just dumb. Really, another Death Star.... that's the best they could do???? I think JJ is only capable of Reboots at this point. Originality is out the door.

The fall back excuse seems to be, "They played it safe with this one because of all the negativity with the last three that came out".

Translation: Lucas tried something new, people didn't like it, so just go back and rehash the next three. Appease the masses, make them forget I-III, and everyone will be happy again.

Seriously, I don't want to give anything away, but VIII is set up to basically to be Empire all over again!

What else would the empire/ first order build as a super weapon to keep all the systems in line?

We saw the movie this morning. I loved it, It was a slow start but I do not think it was the best one ever made but it sure beats jar jar binks.

I saw it as a start of a franchise and a homage to the previous movies.

This is like the 1st Iron Man movie in as much it set the back story for the sequels.

STAR WARS in now tied with POLICE ACADEMY seven movies !!! {8-P

I agree, the first half was good, but the second half not so much. This movie is really more of a setup for the next one or two movies more than anything.

Rob

Maybe something that hadn't proven a total failure not once but twice before?

Before seeing the new movie (loved it), I watched Jedi with my son to prep him. When the one Ewok dies, the other leans over and hugs him, right? The next morning he explained to his Mom the artworks were cannibals - he thought he was eating him!

I LOVE MY SON.

JJ seems to dislike things that take time so he likes to take shortcuts. First we get beaming from Earth to Kronos, now we get [redacted thing that is similar to the first example].

It was definitely a Star Wars movie. It had the right feeling. And the villain wasn't two-dimensional. Also it had actual humour in it, unlike the prequels. So overall it was good, but there were a few "huh?" moments that I hope are fixed in the next one.

Are you sure you weren't watching Family Guy?

Maybe he's sneaking in YouTube time on us! Lol

I liked the villain Kylo Ren.

Prequels just painted some dude red, added horns and said "hate this guy". Then killed him too early.

Ep7 they give you a reason to hate the villain and saved him for another movie (even though him escaping that planet is a real stretch though im sure he did)

Yeah on second viewing the movie slows to a crawl once they get to that place with the orange alien woman. Rey runs away into the woods for no good reason, Finn tries to leave for no good reason, characters do things that Hero's Journey says they should at that point in the story (magic flight) not because it makes sense.

Interesting, I found it much better the second time around.

What was the deal with Jabba's son Babba Hutt racing against Kylo Ren in a podracer? He seems force sensitive as he wouldn't have won the race otherwise. It was a surprise when Babba explained that his father had lost the force long ago as he ate too many Klatooine paddy frogs which reduces the number of midichlorians in ones body. By the time Jabba relalized what effects the frogs had it was too late and he couldn't move anymore Sad.

Yes, joking, lol.

Episode 7 is amazing!

I liked it and my 8, 11, 12 and 15 yr old boys all did too. It seems to have broad appeal. It's far from perfect, but pretty good!

Great movie!

spoiler alert

Like what?
Anything they build will be exploited and fail, Hollywood formula 101.

Oh and all the posts before mine were not spoilers. [inflammatory acronym removed]

That's because both Hollywood and The Empire are INSANE! They keep doing the same thing OVER and OVER again expecting different results!

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