The most recent I heard is a 1/14/11 day 3 order shipping. We should be going through order dates much quicker now that the large distributor day 1 / 2 orders have been filled.

You should definitely have your game in September I would think. I heard a couple weeks ago that I would get my game by the end of September and I'm invoice 2252. Worst case I figure I'm looking at October but my fingers are crossed for next month.

Why? I thought we are trying to avoid arguments in WOZ threads post WOZ thread lock down week...lol.

Yeah, that's true, good points.

Lol! Nice

Not bad. Does JJP let you pick a shipper or do they just have one shipper they go through for all of the games? I'm just north of you in Michigan so I'm hoping that shipping is $300 tops.

Congrats on getting your game! It's great seeing that games are getting shipped out at a good pace now.

I'm not sure but with Jack saying they were going to make around 200 machines in August (186 being LE) I would guess between 40-50.

Based on your order date I wouldn't be surprised if your game ships in the next week or two.

Congrats on getting your game!

I've heard of people who ordered towards the end of January getting their games.

I know someone mentioned a while back that dates could be skewed if a a buyer combines shipping with a later date order. That may be why we see some 1/10 and 1/23 orders being shipped out around the same time. I just hope I get my game next month as I don't know how many more times I can watch the same gameplay videos on YouTube lol.

Awesome! What is your invoice number? I would think we will start getting through the order dates quicker now as purchases are likely more spread out for Feb, March and onward as opposed to January where there were a ton of orders.

Thanks! Jen told me a few weeks ago that I should get my game in September and I'm invoice 2252, 132 spots ahead of 2120. With JJP cranking out around 180 LE's by the end of August I have my fingers crossed that if the pace remains around the same for September that I'll get my game next month.

Agree. For $7.5k the game should include complete code at some point and be as complete, if not more, as other greats such as MM, LOTR and TSPP.

I'm just worried that if this model was ever implemented code could be held back to release as paid DLC just like some video games companies do with there own DLC.

I heard on the JJP board, not from JJP themselves, that 176 LE's were made in August and that they are aiming for over 200 shipped for September.

I agree. I would think that February orders would be shipping right now with close to 200 LE's being shipped a month. Still hoping mine comes next month.

The good news is that I've noticed less reports of issues out of the box with recent deliveries then earlier ones. Seems like JJP has worked on resolving some of the reported problems so that's good. Still hoping that games start shipping quicker.

I just heard of an invoice # 2141 shipping this week.

Maybe the person heard wrong and it is on the line or something. Looks like your wait for your LE will soon be coming to an end

If I heard that a 2141 invoice # shipped last week I would think that 2150's may be on the line now?

That's great news, your wait is almost over I'm invoice 2252 and have been trying to finish my basement before my WOZECLE arrives. Looks like I may only have a few weeks left to get it done, haha.

I get my carrot in two weeks!

Received an update from JJP last week after I requested one. Invoice # 2252 (3/23/11) order. Being told that my game should ship the week of Oct 20th or 28th.

For everyone that has or will be getting their games it looks like most of the games main gameplay code will be done by the Pinball Expo! See Pinball Magazines interview with Keith below.

http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=1511

That's great news! It should be shipping really soon. With me being 2257 that means there's 85 invoices, possibly 85 machines to go from your invoice before my game ships. Still hoping to get it by the end of the month.

Thanks for the update That's awesome news that your game has shipped! Just in time for that new code update we should be getting this week.

Glad you got your game, hope you get it setup soon! Sounds like March 2011 orders are now on the line and probably shipping.

That's great news! My order is from 3/22/11 so I'm thinking I may be getting mine the last week of October as well. As shipping has gotten closer now I'm starting to wonder "Are a buddy and I using a dolly really going to be able to get this 325lb beast downstairs into my basement?". Haha.

Awesome! With me being in Michigan as well what were you quoted for shipping?

Thanks!

Congrats! I hear ya about the game. WOZ is a thing of beauty and in my opinion a work of art with what JJP did with it.

Did anyone with an invoice higher then 2220 have their game shipped out by the end of last week?

Ouch, I may have to get some of those clear plastic washers.

Thanks for the update! That's great news Glad to hear they are doing great! Can't wait to soon get my WOZ, then TH and hey depending on the theme for their 3rd game that too!

Oh, during my wait I found this 1.21 video that shows just the update animated progress screens for the game. Pretty cool stuff.

Just received an update on 2252 today. Should ship the week of Nov 3rd according to JJP.

I wouldn't be surprised if at least a large junk of games Abel Electronics ordered in say March 2011 recently shipped and that is slowing up some of the single order invoices.

I just heard today that my ECLE is ready to ship Can't wait! Invoice # 2252.

I would think very soon. My game, invoice #2252, just shipped today and is a 3/23/11 order.

Hey Pin_-_K. I would think that you will definitely have your machine by then. Mine, # 2252 (3/23/11), shipped out this past Monday and is arriving today and I was told it wouldn't arrive until the week of Nov 3rd. I think some of the recent invoice #'s hit may be distributor orders with multiple machines which may be causing a little back-up for the single orders. I hope you get yours earlier then the week of the 18th. It will be well worth it in the end!

Guys, my game arrived this past Friday and I can easily say the wait was well worth it. In my opinion WOZ is the best pinball machine ever made. When I took that first look of the clear coated cabinet all I could thing was "Wow, this thing is a work of art". The game was packed very carefully and I've had zero issues since it arrived. I've never had so much fun before playing pinball and find WOZ to be extremely addictive. The rules with 1.22 are already pretty deep but I can't wait to work towards reaching Battle The Wicked Witch and Somewhere Over the Rainbow once those modes get in the game. Overall just extremely impressed

#2252. The machine shipped out October 29th.

Are the parts delays still holding things up? It would be nice in someone from JJP could comment again on this.

The wait will be well worth it guys. I recieved my game a few weeks and I can easily say its the most well built, beautiful, complex (in a good way, toys!), and possibly challenging pinball machine I've ever owned / played.

Jack did post to the JJP Google board today. Seems like the man just has been very busy lately and hasn't posted as a result which is understandable. Newsletter was also sent out today and JJP said they are making games as fast as they can during the holiday season.

The wait is definitely well worth it. WOZ is easily the best machine I've ever played / owned. I would think the delays has to be parts related. Who knows if theres an issue with one of the parts manufactures or something else.

I know a lot of people are frustrated over missed deadlines. Just look at what JJP and the staff did though. They created the most complex pinball machine ever for their first machine. They had to develop the platform, hardware, obtain vendors for parts, develop build processes, learn how to integrate LCD animations with a pinball machine, and probably thousands of over things we can't even think of. They could of likely developed a basic machine for $4k-$5k but that is not why people invested in JJP. People longed for the days of complex wide body pins with lots of toys in a time when games continued to get more simple and less and was being included with a new pinball machine.

Games are going out a bit slower then usual but they are going out. There are a lot of start-ups that talk a big game but never come out with a product. People have had money tied up in other start-up pins for nearly as long as WOZ with JJP with those companies still not producing machines. That's not the case with JJP.

I know that I bought someone's spot and got my game about a month ago so I haven't waited nearly as long as others. The only thing I can say is that this pin is the real deal and is worth waiting for. Just from waiting for nearly 4 months I was tempted at times to sell the spot I bought and get something else. After getting the game I'm glad I didn't as there simply isn't anything else like it out there. The build quality is top notch and nothing that I've seen in a pin before. The game is a blast to play with all of its toys and you can now really get a sense of just how deep the pin will be in terms of rules.

Finally, Keith and Ted have been cranking out the code for this game. I believe there's been nearly 20 updates since April and another big update is set to be released before Christmas. Without good code these machines are just expensive wooden boxes in my opinion and if I'm going to spend $7k-$8k I like knowing that a company is committed to completing a deep ruleset.

The wait is well worth it. However, the first time you hear Glinda say "The journey is the reward" do not attempt to break your machine, haha.

Well, he is making some standards along side ECLE. I think if JJP wants to exist as a profitable company that they have to produce some standards and sell them to stay afloat as it means new cash flow. Making machines for WB and the Smithsonian should also help with getting the word out about JJP and help them sell more pins. I think this whole thing is a lot more complex then what all of us are discussing here. Jack said on the Google board the other day that he wants nothing more then to get everyone their machines. It just seems like he can't please everyone all at once.

Yes, your right. That is the best use of this thread and its nice to hear updates of latest games shipped.

What is the highest invoice order we have heard of shipping at this point?

That's great news about the code update. Can't wait! JJP has been cranking out the code updates for WOZ.

Those parts are not being sold by JJP or Pinballsales and are just single items....Someone could of gotten those parts months ago, stripped their own game, received a populated playfield due to some issue, etc. It could be a number of things and doesn't represent some JJP parts conspiracy...lol.

Not all were. I know that Abel Electronics had (still may have some) many LE's on order for customers. It sounds like most of those have been delivered to customers.

Fail to ship your product? Myself and many others have received their games. More will to as the build process continues.

That would be great if he can pull that off. Hopefully they work out their vendor issues asap. However, like betting on our Detroit Lions I'm not betting on this, haha.

Looks like a lot of LE's in the testing area to me! That's good news.

The good thing is there's an actual product being built, in a factory and then being shipped to customers. Pinheads have waited for other start up pin companies or small build efforts for longer and in some cases the machine was never built. Hopefully WOZLE production picks up soon with LE cabinets coming back in stock. I can understand why some preorder customers are upset due to all of the delays. As an owner of the game all I can is the wait will be well worth it.

The good thing about people getting their games now is a lot of the kinks are worked out (improved building process, new light boards, etc) and they will get a game with more complete code. Speaking of code it looks like 1.26(+) should be out soon!

Anyone else see the pics below that JJP posted on their Facebook page a few hours ago. Looks like the factory is cranking out the pins again!

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Several games likely "burning" in.

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I hope so, I think they must have received some LE cabinets in and are able to start building those models again.

You may want to try asking Jack that question respectfully with something along the lines of "Hey Jack. Can you please shed some light on what has caused the delays? Are the delays releated to waiting on LE cabinets? Thanks!".

Like my grandma always said "You get more bees with honey then you do with vinegar".

Lol. Its just an old saying. The other saying, that actualy makes more sense, is you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

Haha. Fair enough.

I just saw this on JJP's Facebook page. "14 LE's on their way to Michigan"!

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I spoke to several people this past weekend who just got their LE's. Games are being built and delivered. It's also nice that 2.0 is right around the corner too.

They will get there. Jack started a new pinball company in a time when anyone thought that would be crazy and banks wouldn't give him a loan likely due to that. Jack could of shipped WOZ two years ago if it was a standard body game, had half the toys and no LCD but that is not the game he wanted to make. Sure it took a lot longer than expected but the wait, and now the future games to come, have been well worth it. JJP made the most complex, well built and beautiful pinball machine ever produced in my opinion. Even though the Hobbit won't start shipping until December at the earliest I don't mind waiting after seeing what they did with WOZ and the substantial code support for the game.

Do you own a WOZ or have one preordered? If not why do you continue to try and start crap, regardless if you do have one preordered, in this thread? I don't see WOZ owners in the Metallica update thread stirring the pot.

Many of us have a WOZ, or have one preordered, and are happy to have a game that actually has a complete ruleset thanks to the 2.0 update you mentioned

Seriously stop being a troll in this thread. You have been on the JJP and WOZ bashing train for months now.

There's been many more delivered then that. Did you forget the 14 LE's that were just recently delivered to a distributor in Michigan? Yes. Also there's people on the JJP Google Group that have also posted about their games recently being shipped / delivered.

This thread would be perfectly fine without you posting in it. I remember when I purchased someone's LE spot last July and even then you were still bashing WOZ and JJP. That was over 6 months ago...it's old. Let people who have their games enjoy them and those who don't read a thread in peace without trolling comments.

How did the WOZ bashers from the past several months suddenly start taking over this thread? Don't they anything better to do on a Sunday?

What's really sad is some of the bashers posting in this thread show respect to other members in code update threads for Stern games, just check out the MET 1.5 update thread, yet cannot show the same respect here.

If you don't like WOZ fine, if you don't like JJP fine...but go in another thread then and let this one be for current customers to discuss shipping dates in peace.

For us WOZ and Star Wars fans

"For over 6 months WOZ customers were the guardians of the Need Ship Update for WOZ..Last Person To Get Their WOZ Post Order Date Please thread in the Old Pinside...before the dark times...before the WOZ bashers".

Does the picture say "Company Photo". No...

It's sad to see this thread be taken over by more trolls that was once for those that had received a WOZ and still had one on preorder.

To quote Jack from this years Michigan Pinball Expo regarding Pinside JJP trolls... "They don't know sh*t about running a pinball company".

Haha! Look at the 5 people who up voted the post above. Its the same exact people who are typically down voting mine or never up vote a positive WOZ post.

Have you anything better to do during the weekend then troll on Pinside? The same goes for other "fantastic 5" (lol) who have been trolling WOZ and JJP threads for months on end.

Here's what I say to the trolls. Are people dropping their preorders left and right because of the delays...no. The delays suck but people end up getting their games just how I was told I would get my game in August of last year but it took until the end of October. Games are being made, code is complete yet no matter what you will find something to complain about.

To the haters...please watch the video below and go back to the Metallica code update thread

I want people to get their games as soon as possible and was just annoyed to be honest about jabs directed towards me. There's a difference though between complaining and then calling people names and harrasing them in a WOZ shipping thread.

I do care and I apologize for saying I don't give a crap. I'm honesty just sick of being harrased by some individuals on this thread...thats just low. There are certain individuals who have been at it for months on end with jabs, name calling and other trolling comments in JJP related threads. This type of behavior does not happen no where near as often in other threads.

Please don't tell me to STFU and make me out to be the bad guy. That's BS.

I've never called people names (other than the word hater / troll) here or directly insulted others unike some and if I did ever get carried away I'm sorry. I've had jabs thrown at me simply for posting WOZ rules screens for others because for some reason a select few people can't stand to here anything good about JJP. You want me and others "settle" down so that no one questions the BS that some of the trolls toss out. I'm not the one starting the WOZ $hit shows.

You do realize that Alex left originally because of the jabs and name calling in JJP related threads right? He doesn't post reguallry to this day because of it. Is that what you mean by settling down?

I'm not going to post in this thread anymore as even as an owner I'm not adding much value and those with preorders are no longer reading updates but arguments.

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I said I wouldn't post in this thread again as someone who has already received their game but can't stand reading your non stop trolling comments in this thread of all places. Get out of this thread with those hateful, trolling comments. Take them to the WOZ hate thread if you really can't stand WOZ and JJP that much and stop harassing WOZ owners in this thread. You have no business posting in this thread at all.

Alright, I'm out again.

I heard from Jack himself that WOZ would have a deep ruleset...guess what it does. Owners have also been told when updates would be coming out. Guess what...updates came out monthly for the game for over a year.

Stop being so negative about everything JJP for a change. If that's all you have to say, don't own a WOZ or have one preordered please post in the WOZ hate thread instead.