And what makes this even worse is the fact that Alex states "we are not making standards" when obviously that is not true.

Here's a thought, just tell us the truth about what is going on. No more BS, no more blowing sunshine up our skirts, no more promised dates only to watch them go by.

Liar may be too strong. It indicates intent to deceive.

Perhaps exaggerator is a better choice of word.

(I keed, I keed)

Ordered mine from Pinball Sales (Jacks other business) in March 2012. If JJP is saying a June 12 2011 order will ship in March then I'll get my machine December this year.

Could it be as simple as making way less than 50 games a week? Simple math says 50 games a week are not being currently produced.

Pop smoke and head for the tree line! This thread has gone south fast!

Back on topic though, since JJP appears to be shipping games again it would be nice for teh new owners to post here saying "I have my machine, it was a XXX 2011or 2012 or 2013 order". That way those of us still waiting can get a rough estimate of where we are.

Yes. A couple of folks on the JJP site forum have reported getting their games very recently.

So when is the truth not acceptable? Sorry, but this is not right.

Keeping on topic:

Invoice #2796
Ordered March 2012
Still waiting

This is the stuff that is the most aggravating to those of us still waiting.

Why not clear the air and take the time to explain what was wrong, what is the solution, why not every game requires the fix and so on. Is it really that hard to provide a little information? What are you afraid of, pissing off customers? Providing ammo to the naysayers? Too late for both of those.

C'mon, get the real info out there and shut down the rumor mill once and for all.

Agree with you 100%. I'm an Engineer as well and understand the process for releasing info. I am not asking either llvjr nor Eric to divulge the information. I would think the "Leadership Team" would provide some information so as to minimize this "urinary olympics". Nothing good can come from the continuing silence.

Wait, that's not possible. JJP isn't shipping games, I read it on the Internet, it has to be true.

Seriously though; congratulations! Enjoy the game as I'm sure you will. Try not to wear it out on the first day!

Awesome news! Congrats! Enjoy!

Congrats cleland! Enjoy your new machine!

Bah! They're all Standards. You can tell by the decals.

(ok, that was a joke. A bad one but a joke nonetheless)

Mine is a similar story as TZben's. Ordered one of the "numbered" standards from Pinball Sales in March 2012. Still waiting. Sent a few emails and made a few calls along the way. I don't bother calling or emailing any more. The machine will show up when it shows up. I'm soured on the experience. What was to be my first NIB purchase has turned out to not be the exciting experience it was meant to be.

No worries though. I have other pins to play. And I do exactly that!

Ditto.

But I do have a really nice, printed manual.

Ditto.

Hmmm, not liking the sound of this.

No emails, no phone call on my machine:

Invoice #2796
Ordered March 2012
Still waiting

And please, don't tell me to pick up the phone and call Jen or Jack. I've done that only to be given dates that have passed by. I may have fallen off the turnip truck, but it wasn't yesterday. I am convinced my game will ship when it ships; what date, only time will tell. I'll keep waiting; every owner says it is an awesome machine.

Woo hoo!!! Just got the email from Jen. #43 is shipping to Suffolk, VA today!!

Invoice 2796
Ordered 3/30/12

Last person, please turn off the lights.

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