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Black Knight 2000
Williams, 1989
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Syracuse, NY
I will check when I get home - I might have one but I am pretty sure if I do it does not have the spring on it. You can get a spring at a hardware store though, I have done that before.
Thanks,
Chris
I had two of the three mount points snap on mine, but a friend of mine who's handy with the welder was able to weld them back on. Now I'm going to have to call him up again, because when I was pulling off all the rubbers and plastics the third one also snapped. I'd suggest trying to rig something with the part you have, personally; once I had all 3 mount points solid and secured, it improved immensely the consistency of how it dropped the ball to the lower playfield, and my scores improved as well as I became able to hit the skyway consistently from the drop from the upper playfield.
I've already replaced the spring and then I put another spring over that one to try to shore it up some, the ball will still bust through it from time to time, right now I have a rigid piece of brake line in place of the spring. I need to remove it when I lift the upper playfield but it works alot better than the flimsy spring.
The whole design of it is stupid. What wrecks them is lifting the upper playfield and the wireform in front of the WAR lanes that is attached to the UPPER PLAYFIELD gets tangled in it and twists it when lowering the playfield back down.
The wireform in front of the WAR lanes should be attached to the lower playfield and this should all be one piece. There is more than enough clearance the way the upper playfield hinges.
For folks that still have one of these intact, I would recommend removing this wireform before lifting the upper playfield or at the vary least, keep a careful eye on it when raising or lowering the upper playfield.
I'm still looking for one though, please PM me if you have one for sale or see them available online anywhere. Thanks!
1 week later
3 weeks later
Still looking.
I think I might try and have some of these made somewhere if anyone is interested in going in on it with me, please let me know. The problem is that mine is so mangled that I don't want to use it as a guide, I need to borrow a good one from somewhere to get the exact measurements.
Does anyone have a spare I can borrow to get the measurements?
6 months later
I need one of these as well! I was wondering why it was missing now I know! Someone should reproduce them for sure!
1 year later
I can make these if somebody has a wireform thats in decent shape to copy and you dont mind visible weld points
Quoted from Bonnevil69:I can make these if somebody has a wireform thats in decent shape to copy and you dont mind visible weld points
What would a visible weld point look like compared to the original? And what price point are you considering for a small or even singular run?
They don't look complicated at all but I will have to make custom jigs to hold it in place while I weld
3 months later
Kitchener, ON
I am still willing to make them. But wont be able start on them till after Expo. Have two custom machines that I have to get ready for abuse. I will still also need a wireform to copy
Can you guys make one of these work?
ebay.com link: Wire dia 0 2 0 5mm OD 2 6mm Length 10 60mm Tension Extension Spring Select
4 months later
Guys, I am new to the forum but not new to the hobby. Count me in on a few chutes needed if it's ok. Hopefully a replacement can finally be made. Thanks.
2 years later
Rowville Melbourne
Varna
Quoted from arakissun:Why in most second hand BK2000 this part is missing?
My guess why this wireform has its issues, broken feet mounts, lifting the upper playfield causes the two wireforms to mesh together & put stress on it 
1 year later
5 months later
Hey- I don't know if you read the club thread but I've got a friend that's in the process of remaking these. He's welded one together that's functional, and we're in the process of perfecting it. Shoot me a PM.
Quoted from truemagoo102:Hey- I don't know if you read the club thread but I've got a friend that's in the process of remaking these. He's welded one together that's functional, and we're in the process of perfecting it. Shoot me a PM.
Sounds great, thanks for the reply and info. PM incoming.
I'm working on making ramps, just working out some of the issues with the original design.
Should have something market ready in the fall.
Edit: PM me if interested. Looking for data for production numbers so I can order the materials needed.
Quoted from Pinball_Basement:I have a spare wireform for sale, $100 shipped.
PM sent
4 months later
Does anyone know where to get the spring and rubber tip for the wire form in this thread? Or know of an alternative to the spring? That’s the only part I need. Thx
Go to advanced auto parts. There is a spring assortment with a perfect spring, then buy vacuum port plug kit also at advanced auto. You trim spring and vacuum port. I made a bunch of those assemblies for customers. Heres a picture of the ones I made. Original on right side, clone on left.
Quoted from Loganpinball:Go to advanced auto parts. There is a spring assortment with a perfect spring, then buy vacuum port plug kit also at advanced auto. You trim spring and vacuum port. I made a bunch of those assemblies for customers. Heres a picture of the ones I made. Original on right side, clone on left.
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You rock, thanks so much for the info! I was hoping there was some sort of way to make one! Thanks again!
2 years later
Quoted from Blackbeard:Anyone still making these ?
Looking for one
You and me both! I am hoping Planetary Pinball will make them but the chances are slim-to-none and Slim is out of town!
Did you guys try to find Loganpinball? I know he left Pinside, but i think he s on Facebook. ( I don't facebook)
I think his last post might also have a clue as to how to contact him.
Quoted from BobLangelius:Did you guys try to find Loganpinball? I know he left Pinside, but i think he s on Facebook. ( I don't facebook)
I think his last post might also have a clue as to how to contact him.
THanks Bob
I saw in one of his posts it was "sold out". So not sure he's still making them.
I emailed logan and he'd need a sample wireform to copy off from. Mine has been rigged a bit so its not super original..
Same problem I had.
Mine was too compromised to use as a template, so I had a local welder do some replacement brackets, that I tried to get as close as possible to the original.
Of course, it didn't quite fit... But I was able to bend the wireforms to where it at least was on the game.
This has been a difficult to find part for a number of years.
Quoted from BobLangelius:Did you guys try to find Loganpinball?
I had asked to purchase one from him a couple of years ago or so but he said he no longer had the machine and wasn’t making any more ramps. I tried!
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