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Need help with price estimate for first machine

By jsm172

5 years ago


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#7 5 years ago
Quoted from jsm172:

no led upgrades and has not been restored so I know it’s not worth what he is asking

LEDs add no value whatsoever IMO. Just something else to pull out and get rid of.

#10 5 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

There is *some* value to LEDs. You can resell them for maybe half the original retail value if you *really* don't want them.

Maybe, but then there is the labor involved and the cost of new incandescents to replace them and repairing or replacing any sockets oversized LEDs have jacked up, albeit perhaps not as much as you can sell used LEDs for if you find a buyer and want to deal with that.

#17 5 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Somehow, I don't see someone going back to incandescents on TAF.

I've recently been putting all my games back to incandecent that were previously converted including the DMD games I own. It is much easier on the eyes and easier to track the ball especially with invisiglass installed.

#21 5 years ago
Quoted from WolfManCat:

Have you ever tried the warm white leds? In my opinion they look similar to incandecents but with all the benefits of led technology.

I've tried them all and installed them all. In all different games. Used to be the point was to add a little more light in an otherwise dark game, but the trade off is the light doesn't always spread very well so you have to go even brighter. Then there is the inherent flicker even in the most expensive non-ghosting leds. Incandescents flicker as well, but it is much more natural and less noticeable.

What I found does work real well is invisiglass on a game with incandescents and seeing is no longer a problem, and at the same time the game now has that original look without those blinding leds.

Came to head a couple weeks ago with my fully led'd Dirty Harry siting next to my incandescent HS2 and I could see those high dollar frosted domed leds flickering behind the translate and HS2 with it's warm natural glow. It's done now and much more soothing on the eyes, and now the LED'd Earthshaker is waiting on another batch of bulbs to finish the project. Earthshaker's backglass and inserts are way better now, just need some more bulbs for the GI.

Again the whole secret of all this evolves around the invisiglass, without which, again it would be kind of hard to see. But arcades never had that stuff back in the day, and the games were still very playable.

Quoted from Tomass:

Worth it just for the reduced stress on the system.

Going thru the system and bulletproofing connectors is part of the procedure as well, but that is something that ought to be done anyway no matter what bulb you use. As far as excessive heat, they don't stay on 12 hours a day and winter will be here before you know it anyway.

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