Small claims court?

Call the person's name out. Why hide their Identity? They need to be named to protect others and hopefully will encourage then to do the right thing.

That's a tough one. A $5000 deposit on a machine buried in a storage unit not accessible. Hmmm..

Wish I could give you some advice, but it sounds like it might be too late for the kind of advice I could give.

Id check your social circle for attorneys and if you can't find one id call a few. Sometimes a letter from an attorney is all that is needed.

Then just start one of those generic threads "Has anybody heard from ........ lately?"

That's a good way to find out about his whereabouts without pointing fingers.

Find him and collect your money and be done with it. You are from NY and you have a Ivanko weight as your Avatar. Something tells me you can handle yourself.

I think this will move much quicker for you if you tell us who it is.

For the love of God you have to call the guy out. $5k is a big deal. It could happen to others.

What he said - ^^^^

Call the police department in the city he lives in. Ask to speak to a detective.

LTG : )

Convince me this guy stole your money and I will get you your money back...........My charge will be $1000.

Yes they do. And why you ask to speak to a detective.

LTG : )

Exactly. If there was intent to defraud you of your money with no product ever delivered, you have criminal not a civil matter. This isn't a case where you bought something and it didn't live up to it's description which is civil, this is hey you wanna buy this for X amount, pay and product will be delivered which never was, criminal.

guessing you didn't have anything written up in a contract? all verbal?

yeah, 5k isn't chunk change. I understand you not wanting to call him out and risk the chance of possibly loosing the funds. The only thing I could think of is to threaten to out the guy nicely at first. Then harshly, then pull the trigger. pinball is a relatively small community, maybe the mear threat of outing him would be enough to get him to get off his ass and do what you two agreed to.

good luck

I ran a collectible card game business online and at national shows for many years. A very well know retailer asked to buy some of my inventory and offered to post a check as soon as he received my merchandise. I had worked this way with other retailers with no problems so I agreed. I mailed the merchandise, but two weeks later I hadn't received a check. I called and one of his employees said that they had just moved store locations and they were sorting everything out. I knew about the move cut them some slack and said that as long as I received the check in two weeks all was good. Two weeks later still no check and kept giving me the runaround. Two months into this and still no check, the owner never returns my calls.

I called the police department in the city where the first store was located and talked to a detective. I provided the email thread regarding the sale. Two days later he drove over to the new store and threatened to arrest the owner if I didn't receive payment. Three days later a check arrived.

bbble Several months later and the seller is too lazy to move 100 games around in a storage unit to deliver the already paid for merchandise? You have been much too easy going, and quite frankly he has taken advantage of you. $5000 is called grand theft, a felony. Time to out the seller by @pinsiderid here in this forum. Dear x I gave you $5000 on this date and you have not delivered anything. If I don't receive a refund by x date I will contact the police.

I can't imagine there are many $5000 games, let alone $5000 deposit games that get buried behind 100 other games in storage, that's for sure.

More like Seven (7) months later.......... time to call!

Look up NYS Penal Law 155.30 sub (15)

Is he on Pinside?

If you don't think the guy gives a crap about the pinball community why keep his name private? I know you don't want to out him but if he doesn't care about you, your money, or us what's the point of protecting him?

And as a reminder, cash on the glass. See macchine, pay for machine, take machine. Done. If it's too far to drive, wait until it comes up in your area.

These threads are so dumb, what magic advice can someone give you. In my mind you are now the shitty pinside member who by not naming names will allow others to be taken, though I doubt many guys on here will do what you did, but still...

You want advice, fire and brimstone man, hit him with attorney, police, public shaming, to ensure he never pulls shit like this on a pinsider again.

I respect your desire to keep his name private.

(Hopefully, others will understand why.)

Hopefully he sees this thread.
Hopefully the Police will be of help.

If not, and when you are ready, the Mob does a pretty good job here burning witches.

(Ill be practicing my John Cleese)

Good Luck!

so the game is 11 hours away and he is in NY. Sounds to me like it would the Chicago expo show or a show in MI. I can think of a couple of show organizers who suck in the communications department.

Call Joe Pesci...

How many guys have 100 machines in storage?

I would have quit asking about the machine and asked for a refund a long time ago.

I would demand the pin or a refund.

You have 20 seconds...

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I was just re-reading vid's scammed thread. Don't trust anybody. Damn right.

The hands of justice work slow and cost you money. I'd wait for a response or his next show.

Since you are not interested in naming the seller, there is no need to keep this thread open.

Should you decide to name him in the future, open a moderator feedback thread and we can discuss reopening this thread.

Until then, this thread is closed.

Marcus