I'm interested in one, but the asking price to me seems...off. I don't want to email this person explaining why I feel it's off and come off as a nutjob, so some backup here would be appreciated. Here's the issues:

Decal damage - left and right side of main cabinet both have half dollar bill sized chunks of black area missing, along with other small scuffs. Head on left side has edge damage, scuffs. Head right side has scratches, and the bottom left corner is chipped in what looks like an inch and a half triangle with at least the top ply gone. Looks like leg damage to the art on the front right corner too.

Coin door is single slot, so likely a reimport? I don't care but I feel it negatively impacts potential resale as I've sold 3 of my last 4 games to arcades. :\

Lower playfield GI and backbox GI are both out. Connectors on provided pictures don't appear burned, so probably someone pooched some traces or there's broken wires in the harness or at a socket along the lines on both.

Ebay prices for this game haven't averaged more than 2700, ever. Seller is asking 2600 OBO. Even if you take 2600 as the start point, ebay fees reduce that to 2340 after fees. Am I out of my mind thinking that 2k would be a fair offer given the condition of this thing? Playfield looks decent, I can't see the elevator ramp entryway however. It may be cracked, or intact. I don't know.

I've played it before. I don't necessarily disagree but for some reason it keeps showing up in tournaments, and I like the theme. Wife likes it a lot more than I do, but I just sold her game so...looking for something a bit on the affordable side given we just sold Metallica (and last year, Farfalla) to help out with some bills. I also already have a deal lined up for a game I've been after for YEARS....Night Moves. Wait, maybe I do like crappy games. It's not like Crescendo is amazing.

It's definitely NOT a 3k game for either one of us, however. It might be a 2200 game.

Honestly, if it was entirely my choice, I'd much rather have Demo Man.

I think my wife likes it because it's the only game she's ever consistently won.

I never have any guests, so not really a concern how other people feel about how a game plays. Trying to run a league out of a 950 sq ft. condo was fun for a while, but it's...limiting, and at times very awkward. DFW community is kind of terrible when it comes to things like just 'hanging out' to play some pinball for some reason, too. I've given up caring.

I offered the guy 2k with some potential wiggle room (if I can check out the game) after explaining my issues. I fully expect to be given the good ol' "GTFO YOU A-HOLE LOWBALLER" response.

Not happening. Guy wouldn't even humor some negotiation or make a counter offer. Best of luck to him, but when my choices are driving a few hours for a 2500 RFM, driving more hours for a 1400 Elektra, or buying a beat up W?D for 2600 that's not even fully working...

LOL. No. Just no. Homie don't play that. I look forward to seeing it on Craigslist for the next year or so until reality catches up to wishes.

Yeah, I've never understood that.. people say like "XYZ game has the same shots as everything else, you just shoot the lights!"

Like...really....what else are you supposed to do? There's only so many bloody things a pinball can me made to do with flippers. You can only sequence shots in so many different ways, and pinball is coming up on being 100 years old. It's bloody hard to come up with creative ways to disguise the same ol sh...

Just want to point out this isn't materially different than the initial code release of Guardians of the Galaxy, except that they de-light and you have to make the last one to relight, and groot locks for multiplier. Big whoop. It's still a jackpot on every shot. I'm pretty sure I could come up with 15-20 other games that either have multiballs or modes that function in the exact same way. There's very few games that really break out of 'pinball trope' jail.

Varkon, Pinball Circus, Banzai Run, Baby Pac, Pin2k and P3. P3 is awesome. I can't wait to see more full featured games for it, because what I played of Lexi last June was amazing and unexpected, even after having played it in the years prior.

Never said it was a good thing, just noting similarity.

Basically every midnight madness mode ever made by WMS/BLY works as "all shots lit for X value"....most wizard modes for Williams/Bally, Lost in the Zone (TZ) and Final Fontier (STTNG) both stand out as examples on high profile games, though one is considered much easier to get to. Payback Time on No Fear (25M a shot, any shot, for 25 seconds). It's been done to death.

Not that I even needed to bother making the point, since as you say, GOTG is like MM, which is like AFM...etc...etc..

P3 is the only player in the market doing anything innovative at all as far as code/forcing players to make an infinite variety of potential shots. The screen tracking seems like a really really stupid gimmick on the surface, but it's absolutely not.

To be honest, it's been a long time so I'm more than willing to admit wrongness here. I only ever got LITZ like once when I owned it, and TZ doesn't show up in tournaments around here (sadly!).

I don't need to do any other research. It doesn't matter, man. You have your preference, I have mine. I don't have an issue with W?D because I'm *terrible* at the game, and could use some practice, so I wouldn't mind owning it for a while. Nothing complicated to understand there. Will I get bored with it? Hell yeah. I got bored with LOTR! There's not a pinball machine that's ever been produced that I won't be bored of after owning it for 6 months. Sucks for me, but it's GREAT for the community, as I have previously brought in a lot of games into our market from other areas, so everyone gets to benefit from my short attention span.

Just to be clear: This guy responded, did not budge at all, and I'm not spending 2600 on a beat up cabinet with missing wood. I don't give a shit if the ramp IS intact, and that there's no apparent wear on the weapon inserts. It's not a 2600 buck game to me, or my wife.

In a 950 square foot condo with 2 kids, a wife, and no garage? And no decals available for this game?

Yeah. Good luck with that. Not everyone has the privilege to have the space to do this, or the materials and access to printing equipment to remake cabinet art.

SMH.....days like this I wonder why I ever bother posting anything, because clearly nobody actually reads anything anymore.

How many bedrooms do you guys have in your 950 sqaure foot condos?

Draining my own thread now. Thanks to the people that offered actual useful feedback.