Quoted from BMore-Pinball:I do agree he has a premium on the machines but I doubt he just took a rag to the play top. He didn't send photos because I am going to look at them in person.
I have no commitment to buy these, just set up an app. to look at them.
I promise I have not ignored any of your comments and I am not defending the seller, just providing the info he provided me.
Early production is white dome lights on the rear panel, proto is very rare, and has a different serial, and a less eventful cab. I'm betting it is a early production - no increase in value.
Fully restored would mean PF stripped, inserts lowered (run your hand over it), PF clear coated, Cab repainted, all pop/flippers/slings rebuilt, yakov and spinner stickers replaced, new balls, new plastic set if chips or marks in the old, new or painted coin door, and a ton of other things. the sky is the limit.
I know you think we are all dwelling on the idea of whether it is actually restored rather than the price, but that is because I would bet my left nut that 10% of what I mentioned isn't done.
Take these points with you and clarify if any of this was done, and when he says "no, no.... um, no, no one does that..., where did you get this stuff..." you will then realise that you are dealing with someone that, again, has likely gave the machine a cleaning, and is flipping.
THEN you can take photos, post here, and we can give you advice of what is needed and what the price should be.
IF those things are done, which they aren't, but if, hell, I'll take them for $5,000.
Again, trying to save you from making what may be an expensive lesson.