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need advice buying non working pinball

By OTCHU

1 year ago


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#51 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanStl:

I don't think these are current prices you are going with; with $1,000. Kind of older thinking on project prices.

They are selling at just under 3k.

You can't 'assume' this will be an easy fix. You have to bake in the costs of time and money.
The color dmd is 550. Mpu is 400. Rubber rings are 30. Flipper rebuild kit is 80. Add taxes on top and waiting time for parts. We are also assuming this will get it up and running and nothing else is needed...which it may need more.
It will need a full shop job and cleaning as well.

That's around 1200 in costs, and likely a few months of time to complete.

If you paid more than 1000, you would just be better off buying one running already.

#52 1 year ago

This thing would probably sell easy and quick at 1500 if it were listed here.

#53 1 year ago

Turned into a good game but that’s all she wrote

#54 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Turned into a good game but that’s all she wrote

Wrong thread, lol

#55 1 year ago
Quoted from Daditude:

They are selling at just under 3k.
You can't 'assume' this will be an easy fix. You have to bake in the costs of time and money.
The color dmd is 550. Mpu is 400. Rubber rings are 30. Flipper rebuild kit is 80. Add taxes on top and waiting time for parts. We are also assuming this will get it up and running and nothing else is needed...which it may need more.
It will need a full shop job and cleaning as well.
That's around 1200 in costs, and likely a few months of time to complete.
If you paid more than 1000, you would just be better off buying one running already.

ColorDMD, rubbers, LEDs, and flipper rebuild kits are going to be bought anyway. Playfield tear down to clean and add the rubbers and LEDs is a given as well. Agree, asking price of $3K is super high, but $1K, no way is that close to what this is likely worth. Unless, you are into flipping.

#56 1 year ago

She just text me to say the pinball is sold ! whatever ... I think she used all the informations i gave her during the diagnostic ... I really dont feel bad about it .... I was planning to flip it to raise my saving for a godzilla lol but at $1500, no way to make enough $$ for resell it ... it is what it is ... have to found another way to save for my godzilla !!! lol

#57 1 year ago
Quoted from OTCHU:

I think she used all the informations i gave her during the diagnostic ...

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#58 1 year ago
Quoted from OTCHU:

She just text me to say the pinball is sold ! whatever ... I think she used all the informations i gave her during the diagnostic ... I really dont feel bad about it .... I was planning to flip it to raise my saving for a godzilla lol but at $1500, no way to make enough $$ for resell it ... it is what it is ... have to found another way to save for my godzilla !!! lol

Sorry for that, lose one you rig one.

#59 1 year ago

Bummer. Good story.

#60 1 year ago
Quoted from OTCHU:

I was planning to flip it to raise my saving for a godzilla lol but at $1500, no way to make enough $$ for resell it ... it is what it is ... have to found another way to save for my godzilla !!! lol

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#61 1 year ago

Ok, so you and Daditude were on the same page. I just thought you were a hobbyist wanting to enjoy a game, not be a F'ng flipper.

#62 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanStl:

Ok, so you and Daditude were on the same page. I just thought you were a hobbyist wanting to enjoy a game, not be a F'ng flipper.

But would that really be a “bad” flip? It’s not like buying a machine and trying to flip it for $PROFFIT$!!! with little to no intervention.

OP is talking about taking a non working machine, some risk, further expense and labor to bring the machine back to life and getting it back in to circulation. Is that really such a bad thing?

#63 1 year ago

….but it’s only Maverick. It’s never going to flip for a bunch of money. Gotta go for a more popular game.

#64 1 year ago
Quoted from The_Pump_House:

But would that really be a “bad” flip? It’s not like buying a machine and trying to flip it for $PROFFIT$!!! with little to no intervention.
OP is talking about taking a non working machine, some risk, further expense and labor to bring the machine back to life and getting it back in to circulation. Is that really such a bad thing?

Exactly, OP wanted to buy it, clean and fix it, then sell. Actually putting time, money, and effort into a project, then selling it. To me, that is not flipping, that is getting a game back to functioning and playable, to release back into the world(good for the hobby).

Flipping a machine: buying a machine, doing absolutely nothing to it, and trying to justify selling it for a profit(bad for the hobby). Sitting on your a$$ does not earn you money, if you want money, get up and earn it.

#65 1 year ago

I even like Maverick and used to own it....I would own it again. I get that fixing up dead machines is good for the hobby, but fixing up Mavericks is not a way to make a bunch of money.

#66 1 year ago

I am not a big expert on pinball ... I just know the basic of fixing them ... I was saying to myself, why not getting some experience on fixing the machine, getting proud of the work, allow somebody else enjoying the machine and make some $$ to be able to own another pinball ... I was not trying to do a business with pinballs. I just want to enjoy them as a hobby .. that's it !

#67 1 year ago
Quoted from OTCHU:

I am not a big expert on pinball ... I just know the basic of fixing them ... I was saying to myself, why not getting some experience on fixing the machine, getting proud of the work, allow somebody else enjoying the machine and make some $$ to be able to own another pinball ... I was not trying to do a business with pinballs. I just want to enjoy them as a hobby .. that's it !

Gotcha OTCHU. I understand you. Maverick has a lot going on and is fun when it is full of LED bulbs and working well. I'm a sucker for the large DMD screens, they look so great. Mine was really reliable and seemed well made.

#68 1 year ago

Regarding my advice above.

So a guy I made a flat offer to months ago.. reached out this morning to see if the offer was still good

Patience will take you far. Make your offer and leave. You win some, you lose some.

#69 1 year ago
Quoted from OTCHU:

I am not a big expert on pinball ... I just know the basic of fixing them ... I was saying to myself, why not getting some experience on fixing the machine, getting proud of the work, allow somebody else enjoying the machine and make some $$ to be able to own another pinball ... I was not trying to do a business with pinballs. I just want to enjoy them as a hobby .. that's it !

One of the biggest lessons to take away, never diagnose a machine on-site, when planning to buy. Voice your concerns of the unknowns, but never diagnose free for someone else to use the info.

#70 1 year ago
Quoted from The_Pump_House:

But would that really be a “bad” flip? It’s not like buying a machine and trying to flip it for $PROFFIT$!!! with little to no intervention.
OP is talking about taking a non working machine, some risk, further expense and labor to bring the machine back to life and getting it back in to circulation. Is that really such a bad thing?

Quoted from OTCHU:

I am not a big expert on pinball ... I just know the basic of fixing them ... I was saying to myself, why not getting some experience on fixing the machine, getting proud of the work, allow somebody else enjoying the machine and make some $$ to be able to own another pinball ... I was not trying to do a business with pinballs. I just want to enjoy them as a hobby .. that's it !

I was a little salty and get the value added. I would just like to see the game go to someone excited about the game and a project. It's not mine though, but when asking for price advice you might want to add what the end goal was. There's a difference between getting to enjoy and getting needing meat on the bone.

#71 1 year ago
Quoted from OTCHU:

I am not a big expert on pinball ... I just know the basic of fixing them ... I was saying to myself, why not getting some experience on fixing the machine, getting proud of the work, allow somebody else enjoying the machine and make some $$ to be able to own another pinball ... I was not trying to do a business with pinballs. I just want to enjoy them as a hobby .. that's it !

I own two Mavericks and sold one and did a full restore on the other one 3k for that is too much but I don’t think she would go for 1500 ether but your better off with out it if your not that handy with them them DMD are way up there in price

#72 1 year ago

When I come upon a diamond in the rough I make my offer show them the cash if refused I leave them my card and say give me a call if you change your mind. Then I walk back to the truck. 50% of the time if the wife is there I get we’ll take it before I drive off. Nothing more worthless than a broken pinball it take up space, pisses off the spouse and frustrates the person who can’t fix it. The advantage is yours showing you had cash in hand helps motivate the unwilling. Has worked many a time but the days I chased Craig’s list deals are long gone but that strategy scored many a project for me over the years. Good luck with your quest! Godzilla a worthy grail.

#73 1 year ago
Quoted from Deadlander:

When I come upon a diamond in the rough I make my offer show them the cash if refused I leave them my card and say give me a call if you change your mind. Then I walk back to the truck. 50% of the time if the wife is there I get we’ll take it before I drive off. Nothing more worthless than a broken pinball it take up space, pisses off the spouse and frustrates the person who can’t fix it. The advantage is yours showing you had cash in hand helps motivate the unwilling. Has worked many a time but the days I chased Craig’s list deals are long gone but that strategy scored many a project for me over the years. Good luck with your quest! Godzilla a worthy grail.

You really have to know your audience when you do that move... because depending on who you are dealing with that strategy of actually "flashing cash" is a double edged sword. I was selling a mower once - and I listed it below market price and had a bunch of responses online of people wanting to come see it because I priced it correctly and it was a deal. First guy lowballs an already low price and I told him no and stated the price was more than fair already. He pulls out cash and flashes it to me like I had never seen money before... this tactic was frankly insulting because it was like he thought i was some sort of simpleton that got turned on by the sight of 100 bills. It took a lot for me to ask him to leave in a polite way versus saying what I was really thinking.

The mower then sold for my asking about 30 minutes later to the second person that emailed me.

It felt satisfying when the first guy with cash called me later asking if he could come back offering to pay my asking price.

#74 1 year ago
Quoted from brainmegaphone:

You really have to know your audience when you do that move... because depending on who you are dealing with that strategy of actually "flashing cash" is a double edged sword. I was selling a mower once - and I listed it below market price and had a bunch of responses online of people wanting to come see it because I priced it correctly and it was a deal. First guy lowballs an already low price and I told him no and stated the price was more than fair already. He pulls out cash and flashes it to me like I had never seen money before... this tactic was frankly insulting because it was like he thought i was some sort of simpleton that got turned on by the sight of 100 bills. It took a lot for me to ask him to leave in a polite way versus saying what I was really thinking.
The mower then sold for my asking about 30 minutes later to the second person that emailed me.
It felt satisfying when the first guy with cash called me later asking if he could come back offering to pay my asking price.

I once tried to use the cash thing buying a used car to negotiate at one of those instant credit lots. Only reason I was there was because it was a hard to find vehicle. I was essentially laughed at, as they make all their money on the financing and don't really want cash buys.

Quoted from Deadlander:

When I come upon a diamond in the rough I make my offer show them the cash if refused I leave them my card and say give me a call if you change your mind. Then I walk back to the truck. 50% of the time if the wife is there I get we’ll take it before I drive off. Nothing more worthless than a broken pinball it take up space, pisses off the spouse and frustrates the person who can’t fix it. The advantage is yours showing you had cash in hand helps motivate the unwilling. Has worked many a time but the days I chased Craig’s list deals are long gone but that strategy scored many a project for me over the years. Good luck with your quest! Godzilla a worthy grail.

Yes, having a dead pinball machine taking up space sucks.

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