Hi all, I just bought this game as a project and it looks as if something smashed quite hard into the insides of the backbox, destroying one or two relays and half of the match/0-9 unit along with dislodging the board the 4 relays sit on.

I'm unsure of what those two relays do and the labels are gone on that side, so any help would be appreciated so I can locate new ones and find them on the schematic so I can wire them into this machine properly. Thanks!

Otaku

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Thanks Vic. I can barely make out "3rd" on the 3rd relay from the left, and two that were intact were labelled for first and second players. I find it odd that Williams used specific matching(?) relays for all four players for what I believe is scoring if I remember the label correctly when usually it's just done using a shared relay utilized through the player unit in the older games. Interesting.

Ahh, I never thought of that! D'oh! Thanks!

That's probably it. It's my first game with those lights (besides 1,000 point digit light-ups, but that's like 10 years older), that explains it.

I guess I got the good end of things, talk about two relays that are the least likely to be used out of any other on any machine... player 3 and 4 100,000 lights, quite the long chain of requirements needed to utilize those, funny. Still going to fix it soon of course, cool to know I can likely proceed without them (with them disconnected) though for the time being just for testing purposes. I assume they're probably universal with other Williams games?

Quick EDIT: I think the Player 4 one might have faired okay as well, just fell off the board. I'll have to look. Player 3 is completely obliterated and missing pieces. Could probably just make my own too with ease if I don't find matching ones, but matching would be nice.

Found it in the manual, hooray.

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Ordered a NOS PCB for the side of the match unit that got broken. Cool! Nice and affordable (and no stupid $20 shipping/handling charge for a tiny item), thanks Bay Area Amusements.

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Here is a picture of one side of the art a little more clearly. Obviously not perfect but not so bad either, I've definitely seen much worse!

Play meter reads 71,889. I found some old pinball show ads (Pinball Wizards' Convention, now merged with Pinfest) from 2003 and no later so I'm guessing that's when the previous owner bought it for his home, obviously from a retailer as there's a bunch of documents of Pinball Resource stuff and other adverts. Guessing it was enjoyed for a while more then and then it looks like it definitely has been sitting for many years (2003 may seem recent in number form but not at all, and definitely not for me! I started Kindergarten that year), and probably got physically broken during that time unless that's what stopped them from playing it.

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Thanks for the advice and well wishes everybody, means a lot!

Hope to get this going when I am back in New Jersey (in PA right now) in a few days. 71,889 plays isn't as high as some others I've seen but also certainly not very low either, whatever operator had it must have taken the right precautions with it and cared for it while it was out in the world making its money.

You see that a lot though, some machines with high plays on the counter with very little wear and destroyed games that have very few plays on the counter compared to some others. Condition truly is king.

Thanks a ton again, everybody!

I tried Google and found:

"This is also present on the Alternator Unit on the main board, which switches a switch on and of with every fire of the coil."

Which makes me think it's related to that center counter possibly.

But I'm also reading it's to do with nickels, so it could count them up for 10 cents / 1 play.

There is also this in all manuals of Williams games from that era which mentions it.

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Also something I didn't know. Oh well, for $12 (or even more if it was needed, but it wasn't) I'd definitely rather fix it the right way and leave the other unit intact. I don't think many were still taking nickels at the time, but I guess they had to include it just to be safe.