I use Cointaker frosted premiums myself for G.I., but I am curious about why those Ablaze are too wide. I assume you got the right socket type and it's just the plastic cap that is too wide?

The cap is to wide, I've run into this before. Can't remember who sells the narrow cap bulbs.

commet does I think?

the only frosteds I have found to work, are cointakers frosteds, ... comet, PB wont work=too big, ablaze arent bright enough for me. The 4 led fing brights will work too but dont throw light real well except straight up, I use these in the back of the machine where its dark, one other option too is to use comets led strips, they are 6v and bright as hell for under ramps, etc

The cheap Ablaze bulbs won't even work in my Freddy or SG. Be careful and do some research before purchasing the bottom line Ablaze bulbs

The Comet frosted bullets are what I have in mine and they work fine. I ran into the same problem with almost every other bulb I had being too wide, so on certain specialty bulbs husband literally drilled out the hole to make it slightly bigger. (I believe we did it under the lane guides and a couple of the GI where we wanted more light than a single bullet could do.) Art is in the process of getting special "Gottlieb size bulbs" at Comet, and since I've got a Gottlieb he's sending me a few to try out. I don't have them yet, and honestly don't know a timeline.

Indeed, I have now measured 3 different hole sizes on the same title, varying by up to .28mm.

However, if the OP, is inserting through the bottom, and wants only non ghosting, which is not needed in the GI,
then Cointaker would be the only vendor with this product. Do ask for the measurement first, and measure the diameter of the hole.

What we are releasing in the nearest future, are round Diamond Faceted 5050 bulbs.
They will be available at first, in White and Warm white, hopefully in 7-8 weeks. The prototypes, finally have arrived,
and they are a unique new look...a cross between frosted, clear, and faceted. They can be used in any game.
After that, we will check demand for colors....

I have just a few samples, I can send, to anyone who asks with an order, while I have them.

Other wise, you can use any bulb, as others do, with a tear down and install from the top side.....The only exception is some games, same time, varied the length of the socket underneath, and some may need to be bent up.

Oh, and you can grind the plastic rim down, but its a pain.

Thanks for that Art,

I have shopped 6-7 Sys 3s now, and I can tell you that the GI through holes are small, and I have tried about every bulb out there that is decent, the 4 smd that Art sells or Ablaze sells will work but you usually have to take the lamp holder out from behind to do it, and they work great but dont throw light.

I use a lot of Arts stuff by choice, especially his normal frosted SMDs due to price and performance, best out there. I find these and CT very similar in performance. CT is the only one that works in all Sys3s (playfield GI holes)in my experience, frosted that is, which is my preference for GI bulbs that the player may see from one angle or another,. also what I use in backboxes so you dont see circles of light on artwork etc...

I would advise against grinding the plastic rim of the bulb down... seems excessive..

I used Comet's ultimate optix in most of my GI. They just fit.
Had to use a flex one for the left sling as to not blind the player. Also added three spotlights with op max bulbs.
Granted LED's photo not so great but here is my example and sorry for the backglass reflection.

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