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Quoted from OHMI_Arcade:If anyone is interested I've decided to sell my 'second gen' board. My interest in the hobby has been declining and I just don't see myself using this awesome board. Asking $200. I believe they list for 250 euro. Thanks.
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Boards installed, game boots coins up (weird) and starts a game (ball kicks to shooter lane).
Haven't hooked up sound yet. Using the High Voltage code shipped on the board.
There is a red black wire of mysterious use. It looks like it goes here but is not obvious where the other end goes.
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Can someone tell me where this goes?
Flippers don't work. One flipper activates when a ball is kicked.
This has got to be a flipper issue since it's not a controlled solenoid.
It might be a programming issue since it may be expecting fliptronics style flippers and I haven't converted yet. Right now I am set up like this
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Quoted from Wolfus:Following this intently over here boss. Does it use the flipper relay on the old driver board? In your last pic are ORG and GRN wires, those are supplying Ground to the flips. But I don't see the other two on the connector below. Both sets are feeding or fed to the relay to enable the flips. don't know which set that is though, before or after the relay. Doing the same thing I showed you on my project. it looks like the other is plugged onto new board in the first pic
I found a better set of pics and was able to determine that none of the large connectors on the SDB remain on that board.
I am currently making a simple flipper only game so I can troubleshoot this.
Quoted from applejuice:I will send you some more info on how to solve this when I get a minute but yes you don’t have the flipper section connected correctly. It’s the weekend here and mother’s day this weekend in the uk so I’m alittle tied up with the family
In understand completely, thanks for your help.
I'm documenting my steps too so I can make a how to thread to pay it forward. As soon as I get some of each component working I'll get it uploaded.
Progress is made
I was having 2 main issues:
1. flippers locking on, then left working and right holding up
This was happening because the second switch on the right flipper (where a lane change switch would be) was acting like a flipper switch to the upper. Not sure how to remedy but disconnecting the upper flipper coil has worked for now. I had to disconnect it at the switch so it wouldn't send a flipper button signal to the board. I am not 100% on this theory but disconnecting that switch has worked so far
2. weird switch issues
I was getting extra switch hit on other switches. I.e the right outlane would also trigger the top center lane switch.
After digging into this I noticed 2 things. 2 stacks of switches on the left drop target bank fire switches in 2 columns. This is by design.
And the other switch issues are in the first column only but only on the playfield switches. i.e. switch 11 fires 12 as well but not for 16 and 17 which are credit button and tilt.
I can work around these to keep moving. I am sure after spending some contemplation time I can figure solutions for both.
Quoted from applejuice:Normally on the 2 flipper same side design the power ground to the upper flipper is joined by that extra switch on the lower flipper. Maybe we need to refine some framework stuff for this, or look at the noise suppression side in more detail.
in SYS 11 and WPC designs definitely. This old design prevents staging the slippers. On Nugent it would be cool to tsage them backwards so you can hold the upper up and then backhand from the lower flipper through the hole
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