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My WoZ experience, first impressions, and lighting

By markmon

10 years ago


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#129 10 years ago
Quoted from BriGuy5:

Check this out. Was digging around jacks website and saw this old video. You can see the GI can get a lot brighter, and looks like what we may be able to do in the future. You can to scroll thru later in the video to see the GI lighting up nice and bright. Look around 3:10.
» YouTube video

Jack made a comment on the JJP Google Group that that video is over a year old. If you remember, they had to totally redesign the GI lighting system. I believe it was due to a vendor not honoring their pricing agreement/quote and not being able to supply parts (I can't remember the exact details). So what is in the game now may not be what was used in that video. The information on the GI redesign is buried somewhere in the JJP forum, but I'm afraid I don't feel like trying to dredge it up right now.

#132 10 years ago
Quoted from j69:

That was all the LEDs iirc, not specifically the GI

No, it was the GI. Initially the GI was a separate setup and used more traditional bulbs (no tubes). When they redesigned the GI, they went with the tubes so that they could use the same surface mount RGB LEDs as the inserts.

Disclaimer: I could be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the tubes came onto the scene after they had trouble with the vendor for the GI lighting.

#135 10 years ago

Below is the quote regarding the GI redesign. GI was initially different, it was redesigned to use the same LEDs as the inserts. Maybe they were planning on using tubes from the start, I don't know, but the info given indicates that a major revision had to be made. And I'm sure it was one of the things that contributed to the game taking longer than planned.

Begin quote:

So about six weeks ago we find out that the LED's we want to use for
our GI Lights are like $6 each after sourcing them and promises of a
lower cost.....don't worry, they will be lower in quantity we are
told..... John makes a controller board (that's like a month or so out
of his life) and they work great - oops...the supplier can save us a
few pennies under $6 each and we need 30+ of them.....and it's ten
weeks + to get them all of a sudden. Bad communications on the
supplier side but who's in any type of time sensitive project anyway?

We quickly switch to the LED we are using in the feature lights...Joe
redesigns the redesign the bracket, John creates a new board for them
and Jim the method to show the light on the playfield and John has to
design another completely different driver board to control
everything...oh...Keith has to program to the different firmware and
driver board too....tidbit huh - so - we have those LED's in stock,
boards are being made, Keith has to take five steps forward and a few
backwards and we get what we want in spite of suppliers who are not
time and price sensitive....there's a tidbit for you. About another
thousand like that and a few that ended badly but we keep going, we
have an amazing team.....

#156 10 years ago
Quoted from GaryMartin:

51% now. Who's hoggin the bandwidth?!?!

I started off pretty fast but it slowed considerably as more people have joined in. Just about done.

#219 10 years ago
Quoted from BigOrange:

I just want to compliment all on the civil tone around here these days - just a calm and informative discussion about creative options for fixing/enhancing a WOZ.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday.

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