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My Visit to the Pinball Hall of Fame, Vegas

By bluejonny

4 months ago


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    #1 4 months ago

    SO I finally made it to the PHOF in Vegas. These are my personal thoughts. Thanks to everyone for comments on my previous post.

    First impressions:
    Wow, it was hot. 37C in English terms. So at least it was relatively cool inside. The first thing that struck me was the general randomness of the place weird 1950s arcade machine next to Theatre of Magic! I had $40 in my pocket... and after grabbing so many quarters I was weighed down, I decided to go and look round. My overall first impression on my way round was WOW. But not an excited WOW, just a what the hell type wow. What really struck me was the sheer volume of hand written signs saying "Don't do this", "Don't do that", "You've been warned", "No money in here" etc. They were everywhere! Disappointingly the most frequent one I saw on my visit was "out of order".

    Machines:
    After spending time walking around, it soon became apparent that around 40% (maybe more?) of machines were out of action. Either off or in various stages of repair. I did see a couple of people working on machines, but they were limited to newer ones (recent sterns, JJPs, Hobbit, LOTR, Star Wars) whilst a lot of the older 90s machines looked like they had been off for some time (by the layer of dust on them). Even a lot of the EMs were off. What I wanted to play were some of the newer machines which I don't get access to at home, so I headed for an area in the middle where they all seemed to be. I managed to play John Wick and on my first go got a ball stuck on wireform ramp! After a couple of goes, I concluded it was a bit "meh". I did also play Jaws (not bad), Scooby Doo (what the hell! What a weird game!), Venom, Mando, James Bond (hmm, did not like that one), Batman (really like that one) and some of the other new titles. The one that stood out for me was definitely Godzilla. Some of the machines I wanted to play just would not accept coins (Whodunnit, Star Trek, Surf N Safari as examples) and some whilst they appeared to be in good shape, were not working properly. SPBP, Family Guy, Space Station, Fish Tales had flipper, slings or pop bumper issues. The ones with flipper issues (Family Guy) meant the upper playfield was rendered unplayable.

    General thoughts:
    It was actually quite painful carrying so much cash in quarters, and I will be honest - I managed to get a lot of credits on machines racking up some decent scores, so by the time I left (after 5 hours), I still had $15 left out of the $40. So, why not just have an entrance fee and put everything on Freeplay? I would have happily paid $50 for entry for the day so in theory they would have made a lot more money out of me, and I would not be complaining. Additionally, some machines had coin mech issues and simply would not take coins – or as I discovered with one machine, didn’t register any!

    Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed my visit very much. It was great fun for someone who loves pinball and to see and play all the latest machines was simply awesome. And I know it’s a tough gig to keep so many machines working, we all know what a PITA pinball machines can be and sometimes how long they take to fix. I was a little disappointed that there were machines there I couldn’t play, but the most disappointing aspect was that I could not play Pinball Circus as it was “out of order”.

    Would I go back? Absolutely!!

    #2 4 months ago

    How was thunderbirds and spinal tap ? The two must play games , lmao

    #3 4 months ago

    Hope you got to play theirTSPP, IJtPA and CV. They were in great shape last year when we were out there.
    They had four Bond machines last year (two pro and two prem). I admit, didn’t like the game either. But my wife did and asked if we could get one. Wanting to encourage her interest in pinball, I got a second hand Bond LE. It’s been our favorite machine for the past 14 months. So maybe it’s worth giving it a try elsewhere.

    #4 4 months ago

    I can't say this enough, but for anyone looking for the absolute opposite of this experience, your mission is Next Level in Oregon.

    #5 3 months ago

    5 hours there, it must have been horrible

    #6 3 months ago

    Pinball Circus down for at least 16 mo now.
    5 trips to Vegas in this time. I always stop by for 30-60 min, the reason, to play Pinball Circus.

    #7 3 months ago

    You should go to Past Times Arcade in OH. They have a better collection, flat fee and all their games are in great condition. 3000ish pins, with about 410 on the floor.

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    #8 3 months ago
    Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

    Pinball Circus down for at least 16 now.

    I wish it was still with me. Steve Kordek wanted people to be able to play it.

    LTG : (

    #9 3 months ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    How was thunderbirds and spinal tap ? The two must play games , lmao

    I did play Thunderbirds - impressions I was left with were what's the middle ramp for? and this machine had some weird sound and DMD display issues. IMHO a licence wasted. It looked great, but didn't play well at all. Spinal Tap - saw it, and didn't bother trying it.

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    #10 3 months ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    How was thunderbirds and spinal tap ? The two must play games , lmao

    Spinal Tap was a main reason I went a couple months ago. Thunderbirds is pretty bad, but Spinal Tap is even worse. It's really, truly amazingly. It fulfilled all my expectations.

    #11 3 months ago

    Spinal tap is worse ? Oh my , sadface

    #12 3 months ago

    That outdoor signage is pretty epic !

    #13 3 months ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    That outdoor signage is pretty epic !

    Trust me, the novelty ends there.

    #14 3 months ago
    Quoted from arcyallen:

    Spinal Tap was a main reason I went a couple months ago. Thunderbirds is pretty bad, but Spinal Tap is even worse. It's really, truly amazingly. It fulfilled all my expectations.

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    #15 3 months ago
    Quoted from CubeSnake:

    Trust me, the novelty ends there.

    The sign outside does not reflects what’s inside.

    Such a letdown indeed !!

    #16 3 months ago

    Im taking my kid to vegas for his first concert in October - Maiden. We’ll be stopping at this place regardless of low expectations. Just gotta do it!

    Worth it to even see that many pins in one spot, and to play even a few titles ive never touched will be a bonus!

    #17 3 months ago
    Quoted from Mahoyvan:

    Im taking my kid to vegas for his first concert in October - Maiden. We’ll be stopping at this place regardless of low expectations. Just gotta do it!
    Worth it to even see that many pins in one spot, and to play even a few titles ive never touched will be a bonus!

    It is absolutely worth going to. Doing let what it's not get in the way of what it is.

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    Doing = don't

    #18 3 months ago
    Quoted from Mahoyvan:

    Im taking my kid to vegas for his first concert in October - Maiden. We’ll be stopping at this place regardless of low expectations. Just gotta do it!
    Worth it to even see that many pins in one spot, and to play even a few titles ive never touched will be a bonus!

    That's about right. What's special about it is the size, and the rare games or ones you haven't seen. It's worth it for that, but for common machines there's not really any reason to play there as compared to anywhere else. Newer Sterns and JJPs play the same there as anywhere else, and the older 80's and 90's games are beat and have the usual problems like weak flippers or dead lights or targets etc (which is understandable for a small staff trying to keep up with that many games.)

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    #19 57 days ago

    Does anyone know what the deal is with the multiple repeats of the new Sterns? Like multiple premiums or pros of the same title? It just seems strange (which is on par with everything else in that place lol).

    #20 57 days ago

    They had four Bond007s when we were there last year. It was part of the promotional launch. But it also might be so that when one machine is down there’s another to play until it’s fixed.

    #21 57 days ago
    Quoted from Nicholastree:

    They had four Bond007s when we were there last year. It was part of the promotional launch. But it also might be so that when one machine is down there’s another to play until it’s fixed.

    That makes sense. I kind of assumed they had a deal worked out with someone. I know the place isn't too strong financially, so I can't see having the $$ to go out and buy multiples of the same machine and model.

    #22 57 days ago
    Quoted from PinballJon:

    I know the place isn't too strong financially, so I can't see having the $$ to go out and buy multiples of the same machine and model.

    Actually.... Their IRS 990s tell us their finances are very strong. That's part of the frustration some have with the PHOH: they SHOULD be able to hire and pay more maintenance staff and keep more of the machines tip top.

    #23 57 days ago
    Quoted from Nicholastree:

    Actually.... Their IRS 990s tell us their finances are very strong. That's part of the frustration some have with the PHOH: they SHOULD be able to hire and pay more maintenance staff and keep more of the machines tip top.

    That's really interesting. My first thought was "if they can afford to buy multiple of the same title/model, they can accord to pay for techs and parts".

    #24 57 days ago
    Quoted from Nicholastree:

    Actually.... Their IRS 990s tell us their finances are very strong. That's part of the frustration some have with the PHOH: they SHOULD be able to hire and pay more maintenance staff and keep more of the machines tip top.

    Quoted from PinballJon:

    That's really interesting. My first thought was "if they can afford to buy multiple of the same title/model, they can accord to pay for techs and parts".

    I can totally understand this reasoning. But I can also understand that giving advice to an organization that's financially "very strong" about how to run their business is...maybe short sighted? And I say this as someone who agrees with you, but also knows what I don't know but they do.

    #25 56 days ago

    Staying at The Paris Hotel this weekend. About a mile from the PHOF. I’m not wasting my time this year. Friend of mine went last week and said it was depressing and isn’t wasting time going anymore either.
    I know I’m just a drop in the bucket
    And my friend, she’s a drop in the bucket
    But her fiancé is also a drop in the bucket
    And my wife is a drop in the bucket
    And our group and 6 friends with us are just a drop in the bucket
    And their friends are just a drop in the bucket
    And their other friends are just a drop in the bucket and their friends’ friends that mention it and get told don’t waste your time anymore are just a drop in the bucket
    And so on and so on and so on and so on
    Tim’s really got a good business model going.

    #26 56 days ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    Staying at The Paris Hotel this weekend. About a mile from the PHOF. I’m not wasting my time this year. Friend of mine went last week and said it was depressing and isn’t wasting time going anymore either.
    I know I’m just a drop in the bucket
    And my friend, she’s a drop in the bucket
    But her fiancé is also a drop in the bucket
    And my wife is a drop in the bucket
    And our group and 6 friends with us are just a drop in the bucket
    And their friends are just a drop in the bucket
    And their other friends are just a drop in the bucket and their friends’ friends that mention it and get told don’t waste your time anymore are just a drop in the bucket
    And so on and so on and so on and so on
    Tim’s really got a good business model going.

    Exactly! It used to be a must, multiple times, on my trips out there. Now, it’s not worth the time. It’s just depressing.

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