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My TZ odd duck playfield (relax I’m not going to do it)

By uncivil_engineer

4 years ago


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#4 4 years ago

For the record, that is a Prototype playfield. While neat, do NOT put it in a game, you will probably regret it, and anyone (not familiar to TZ at least) will be utterly confused.

Look at your Door Panel awards, the missing Clock Target insert, the red Dead End and Camera inserts.

It won't have a date on it, as it was a test run - a single run - from one of the PF manufacturers at the time.

It's very unique, and something like this - I would NOT do unless your a professional. Like others said - give it to Kruzman or Neo, let them do it //right//, please.

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#6 4 years ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

That is entirely possible given its origin. I had not even noticed the missing clock millions insert. I may put this one on hold for a while. Too bad, I need a TZ playfield!
The condition of this playfield is not great. It has some mild planking along one side. I was going to use it because I picked it up fairly cheap.

Using it in your game, while IS POSSILE, would be difficult - dimples (if it has any) would be off for many items. The inserts (like 'PLAYER PIANO') on the door wouldn't match up to what the game actually gives you, and so on.

Honestly, if you JUST NEED a TZ playfield? I will BUY you one from Mirco if you send me that one, as-is. I'll even pay for all the shipping.

But, see, I'm strange that way having done so much with this game.

1 month later
#14 4 years ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

So here is the prototype with the reproduction..[quoted image]
The other difference I found is the ball lock trough used a different try of eject mechanism on the prototype vs the production playfield.

Interesting. I just learned something new. Yeah, me. The "Power Payoff" targets WAS the original "Clock Millions" target.
I'll be damned.

Also, looking at things - you would have had a MUCH more difficult time using the field. I see a few places where mounting holes are completely wrong (lane guides, for example), and no dimples at all - like with the pop bumpers.

I also find two things interesting:
1. Mirco did NOT PUT the pop bumper posts in, and
2. I'm right on my suspicion that another post was moved. (The middle post of the roof plastic/flasher assembly.) I was always suspicious about it, since my PF has a filled-in hole there, but seeing it on that field confirms it.

When I get the field, it will be shipped off again later this spring to Neo, so he can do an honest restore on it, keeping all the minute details about the field intact.

#17 4 years ago

I'm going to vent, because I am royally f*cking pissed off. Not at uncivil_engineer - he was more than accommodating.

It is entirely possible that this 1 of 3 of a kind playfield is lost, destroyed. And with the pain in the f*cking @ss I had getting this, I'm.. about to throw in the towel and just stop trying to help people, since apparently Murphy is out to get me.

Made an offer to @op to get him a new repro field in exchange for the field posted. He agreed, and I was willing to be able to save this playfield, which is one of three that were made specifically for marketing pictures for the flyer and other static pics. The one or two fields that were used in the marketing pictures had the Clock Millions insert drilled into it at Williams, and put in. This means that this field was an extra - it was untouched and unused.

Contacted JJP (through their store) to see if they had any in stock. Got an email immediatley back, and then was ghosted. A week passed, multiple emails sent, and .. nothing ever returned. F*ckers.

Contacted Mirco directly. He had one ready to ship. In summary, he charged me twice, which I had to put in a complaint to Paypal to get the extra grand back. IN email communication, I mentioend MANY times to send it to @op here. He said 'no problem' once. Two weeks pass, no notice of shipping. Contact him, and .. okay, he shipped it.

Get a call from FedEx. I need to go up and sign for it - it was shipped to ME, not @op. So I dish out another hundred to continue the journey to California.

uncivil_engineer gets the repro field, says it's in great condition. Yay. Something goes right! He ships it.

I get tracking number. Scheduled to be delivered today. Signature required. So, I decide to take the day off (well, work from home). Partway into the morning, I get a notie saying the package was delivered. ... Uh, no. It wasn't. I call FedEx, open a Tracing Report. Usually the driver dosen't show up to my place (because I'm out in the middle of nowhere) until late in the afternoon. So, I keep my hopes up... Now though, it's getting a little too late for them to show up, and I'm just.. so f*cking done.

I'm out over a grand and aggravation during he last .. two months. I'm MORE upset at losing this (possible) last of a kind TZ history and not getting to see it in person.

Merry F*cking Xmas, Fedex and driver "Wilson".

Everyone else, have a fantastic day tomorrow!

#19 4 years ago
Quoted from pinball_ric:

Did the status say "out for delivery" today? If so it is on the truck and probably not likely to go missing

Yeah, status shows it as being "Delivered". And apparently signed by me. Which is why my hope is low. I've had it happen where it was still out, and then ended up back at the warehouse. Never had it marked as delivered, and SIGNED FOR, and not actually.. well.. be delivered. *sigh* I know I probably shouldn't be so upset, but just a great thing to happen before the holiday. Heh.

#27 4 years ago
Quoted from pinball_ric:

You should be able to see the signature online. Is it legible to where you could get a name?

I tried - I cannot, only the shipper can. May ask for that Thursday, see what they say.

Quoted from bbulkley:

FedEx sometimes marks packages as signed and delivered so they don’t lose money on “guaranteed” delivery. It’s shady as fuck and one of the reasons Amazon won’t use them anymore. HOWEVER, even when they do that it does get delivered eventually (in my experience). So don’t lose hope.

Interesting to know. The tracking history (anyone can view it here: https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?action=track&trackingnumber=777282319447&cntry_code=us&locale=en_US ) Seems pretty legit, unless they forgot to load it on the truck after saying it WAS on the truck, and scanning it as delivered was how the covered it? *shrug*

I have a case opened at FedEx - I was actuallt given a call back an hour after I opened it, and was asked some information about my house ("2 story or 1 story? Color?") and so on. Was told that the case will be handed over to the Tracking Tracing folks on Thursday, and that I should hear something by EOD Thursday.

Will keep everyone informed. Hoping that it wasn't actually delivered to someone else, or destroyed and 'marked' as delivered.

Ya'll have a great day tomorrow!

#30 4 years ago

[edited] See next post.

#31 4 years ago

Okay, thought I would give everyone an update.

I was supposed to get a call from FedEx yesterday. I didn't get anything by 5pm. I called them, and asked them for an update. They had none. I told them that neither me nor the shipped could retrieve the autograph, and could I ask it to be sent to my email or given the 'account' number that was used to ship it, since it's required in the web form. They said they would email it to me.

As of today at 5, no email, no call.

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#32 4 years ago

Not sure why Pinside posted that twice.

Anyways. I got home tonight around 8:30pm, and I was happy to see.. a giant box on my porch.

Not sure how it got there (I REALLY need a security camera!), but I opened it up and it's in good condition. I will get goo pictures later, since it's late tonight, but..

According to Fedex, they don't know I have it. But, it looks good.

#42 4 years ago

So, some notes after going over the playfield. I'll be posting this in one of the other TZ posts, as well.

- The field has NO clear on it whatsoever. If you run your finger over the printing, you can feel the layers of paint.
- The field looks hand-assembled. There are glue marks on every insert.
- The 'Power Payoff' reads 'Clock Millions'.
- The right 'Spiral' lamp is red, and reads 'Gum Ball'.
- Holes for the Rocket Kicker ball guides/posts are mostly different.
- Main Ramp inserts are different. First is white "Multiball", then orange "Gum Ball", then green "Super Skill"
- Camera, Dead End inserts are red, as in the actual Prototype games.
- No Clock Millions target/light, as obvious.
- Different design around the Lock area.

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