So honestly Frolic and hazoff. Now that I am going to swap out the apron and buy light mods from pinball refinery should I stay on the LE or just go Pro?

In all honesty I would say the LE is worth it unless its going to break your bank account and cause distress. You have to remember tough to call it right now, the GI hasn't been implemented into code for all red or white or whatever they are going to do, the arrow is underused but very cool and the BG ramp Zombie I like, I like the two magnets causes a lot of variance, and the fish tank is also great not mention this is my favorite armor I've had yet on a Stern. I will say the fact that all the inserts aren't RGB sucks could have worked for this game very well, like STLE great inserts but why no GI RGB? Anyway for me it was $3000 difference including Shaker and I'm not blown away but not disappointed either. STLE really was the first pin in a long time that had that awe factor for me, tough act to follow (I don't count mustang). I'm hoping TWDLE improves with regards to the lightshow with code but the gameplay is solid and that's most important.

Thanks

I wouldn't count a premium out just yet..

I completely disagree with this statement ^^^^^^^. TWD LE doesn't have less value then STLE. TWD LE's value is in all the extra playfield toys with very little estetic difference. STLE is the opposite with all the difference being estetic and very little playfield differences. I would prefer to have it the TWD LE way and spend the money on the playfield, it's way more important to me then pretty lights. But if you are looking for great modern art, STLE is a beauty.

The word is aesthetics and obviously you have a bias since you purchased an twdle and not a stle.

The STle has a much better package then the twdle and st is more popular.

Need both, must have themes and even though TWDLE doesn't have the eye candy its still beautiful. I did change the spinner flasher to red's and the GI lights behind the BG Zombie to all red as well looks better for sure. Love Blue STLE and Red TWDLE.

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Lol, I didn't know how to spell it and was hoping spell check would help me out, but it failed me again I owned a ST Pro for awhile so I'm not too bias it's just reality really.

That's a really good idea, I'm going to change the lights behind my BG as well . Thanks Hazoff!

Sorry you are wrong. I've listed below the details. Only one I have not owned is Avengers so I can't comment on that one specifically. Since this is a new thing I can see why people are upset. It's a pisser but I would not have known if someone had not pointed it out. From the front it looks like the real deal. The mirror effect is darn good.

Spider-Man black - screened backglass
Transformers Auto/Decep LE - translite
X MEN LE -screened backglass
AC/DC BIBLE - screened backglass
Avengers LE - (Stern matrix says themed mirrored)
Metallica METLE - screened backglass
Star Trek LE - screened backglass
Walking Dead - mirrored translite (new adhesion process ) clearly advertised/worded incorrectly as it states as a mirrored backglass and this is a styrene translite adhered to the glass.

Look at your METLE again, the easiest way to tell the difference is a real backglass has a matte finish with "raised to the touch" areas of the screening art outlines. A translite is glossy on the back with no texture.

where is the video clips of the LE action? Photos are fine, but we wanna see action!!

Thanks for the info! This supports my point that every game thus far that had been advertised as having a real backgalss did indeed have a real backglass. This is the first time that we have been mislead.

I'll be having words with stern tomorrow.

I think Stern should give everyone a free shaker to compensate for this mix up. Who is with me?

The LE should have had the fish tank topper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Free topper it is!!!

Shatter the backglass and see if the art goes with it... Right?

Probably would have kept my order if that was happened

Right from Sterns matrix.

Backglass and Art

*Exclusive Pro The Walking Dead translite

*Exclusive Limited Edition The Walking Dead mirrored backglass

*The Walking Dead Pro hi-definition decal cabinet artwork

*The Walking Dead LE model hi-definition decal cabinet artwork

*The Walking Dead themed speaker decal display panel Designer-signed playfields featuring John Borg's signature

Well I'm not claiming it's a "translite", because it's obviously not. But it does appear to be like the BG Resto stuff, where them print it and then bond it to the glass. I'll try and take a pic of the part on my METLE that's wrinkling. I'm guessing based purely on that, maybe showing it will help.

I didn't try and peel it off because I don't want to F it up, I love my mirrored backglass. It looks great, and I have zero complaints about the quality. I couldn't care less if it's screened directly on or applied and bonded.

I'm not mad at Stern, nor do I feel ripped off, it's simply a curiosity.

I already have a shaker, I want a free topper.

I can't really see where the need for all white would come into play, with just red yeah so I think changing a few whites won't matter. For sure change the flashers to red on the spinners, looks ten times better.

Oh darn, you're right. I never thought of that (my first LE) I'd better not change the GI then. Thanks for the tip.

Okay I messed with my Metallica LE some more, peeled it just slightly. I think its just the white diffuser layer, and the rest is screened in under it:

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Right?

Right?

Right!

The red & blue is sweet!

Now we just need to get you a new camera!

Wow
Just, wow!

TWD LE is $400 cheaper than my STLE pre order from the same distro, I cancelled STLE. Since playing it several times at Pinballz, I'm glad i did, eye candy isn't enough. 799 is not "limited" and ST has a premium. 600 isn't limited either but its a big difference and only 250 has stayed here in the US.

Woz is my only other pin I've bought before playing. I think Borg has done a great job with TWD, don't think I'll be disappointed!

So is it just a diffuser on TWD LE or is it a translite?

Iceman44, i assume your stle preorder time period was a couple of years ago?

Regardless i think your insane. People will walk past twdle and stle makes them stop and drool

Fantastic News

Thanks for the video. The music is really cool for the theme. Looks to be a fun game.

Thanks MN....I knew I wasn't crazy! I have got ever LE except Metallica and BSM in that list and could tell it was different the second I touched it

Thanks for the video.

This isn't going to make the wait any easier.

Thanks for the video. Can't wait to get mine today!

Thanks for the video Frolic! You Da Man!! Picking mine up tonight. Woo Hoo!

thanks for the vid!!

great to see the video. Thanks for posting. I'm looking forward to playing one.

I think we are still under the impression TWDLE is a translite. All we "solved" is the old games being screened on glass with a diffuser layer over it.

Nice video. Thanks for that!

frolic, thanks for video, we appreciate it!

My Stern LE pins (ST-MET-AC/DC) have screened back glasses just like my WMS Champion Pub and NGG.
No diffuser whatever you are talking about.

The TWDLE is the first I've seen of this new technology process.
It's a translite adhered to glass.

I will say the quality is damn good, the mirror effect is spot on, probably in the long run more durable and less prone to scratching on the back so that's good.
Time will tell on any issues from shrinkage or lifting/bubbling.

This may have been addressed before, but can the bicycle girl be modded to be lit up? I can't really see her at all in the video. It looks like it could be tricky to do with the limited amount of space under the ramp.