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My Showoff TZ NIB + 300 plays

By alchy999

11 years ago

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#1 11 years ago

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alchy999

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Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

At last I get something to show off on here. Never had anything so good.

This machine was bought in 2003 NIB from the states. It was opened up and left for a further 10 years in a 15c constant temperature. I went to see this pin and it has never been cleaned. The pictures is how I bought it no clean for 10 years. Goody bags are unopened and complete as well as the manuals.

The circuit boards are shiny green and even the nuts bolts and transistor grounds are shiny.

Any feedback or suggestion are welcome. I have a proof of purchase and history included.

Anyone would like to speculate what it's worth?

Please remember these pictures are of a machine that has been unused and standing for 10 years without a clean. I have never taken the glass off of it but have put 20+ plays on it.

#2 11 years ago

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alchy999

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Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

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#3 11 years ago

MMT

Xerico

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Rockwall, TX

11y 148K 3,604 14

Very nice!! Congrats! I love TZ!!

Marcus

#4 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

More pics sorry first lot messed up...

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#5 11 years ago

000

DCfoodfreak

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12y 115K 9,912 8 15

Congrats looks nice. Value is intrinsic. I hate that game so it worthless to me but I bet you its worth a small fortune to someone else ; )

#6 11 years ago

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alchy999

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Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

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#7 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#8 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#9 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#10 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#11 11 years ago

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Pinhead1982

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Sidcup

15y 95,050 2,160 10 15

Wow! Nice find. Was it in the UK?

#12 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#13 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#14 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#15 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#16 11 years ago

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alchy999

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#17 11 years ago

JAR

jar155

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North Salt Lake, UT

14y 114K 6,220 9 141

Well, now that's quite a treasure. I've seen a few HUO TZs, and they're always something to behold. It's still my favorite overall art/sound package in pinball, and the really clean ones are a great reminder of why I feel that way.

#18 11 years ago

MJM

mmuglia

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11y 91,550 1,319 7

Very nice! Where did you find it?

#19 11 years ago

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alchy999

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Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

Hi yes it was found in the UK and it looks 10 x better in real life. I am really chuffed and also afraid to play it. Plays just like a new machine out of the box well I presume so I have never had a new machine before

Rather than just show off I am also interested in comments, valuation and any tests or further pictures people may want to check out authenticity.

There is a picture of the glass top left corner it has the made in USA sticker still on it

Regards David

#20 11 years ago

PMD

PinballMikeD

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Jacksonville, FL

12y 78,800 3,205 2

Wow, you don't see that every day. Congrats.

#21 11 years ago

TJC

MinusWorlds

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Boston, MA

11y 103K 3,502 4

I am guessing $9-$10K...

#22 11 years ago

MAT

Anim8ormatt

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Highlands Ranch, CO

12y 54,400 2,193 5 21

I would scrounge up 5500 or so for one in that condition. Looks nice. Don't be afraid to play it.

#23 11 years ago

JEN

Jnewton

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Scottsburg, IN

13y 46,550 520 6

That is NUTS! It still amazes me that there are games this old that look like this. Congrats!

#24 11 years ago

DAV

turbo20lbs

Pinside member

Schaumburg, IL

14y 92,550 2,178 8

Main cabinet looks great, but I wonder how that head got faded.

#25 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

Well spotted. Its not that bad but noted. I guess you can't have everything..

#26 11 years ago

DAV

turbo20lbs

Pinside member

Schaumburg, IL

14y 92,550 2,178 8

Was it somehow exposed? Or did it get like that while in a box?

#27 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

It was taken out of the box somewhere early 2004 in a air conditioned warehouse underground at a constant 15c. I have been there and I remember fluorescent tube lighting just above the machine. Would 10 years of that light fade the top?

Could be the answer?

Dave

#28 11 years ago

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jamespin

Inactive member

Grand Rapids Charter Township, MI

13y 45,400 735 8

Well, how much did you get this for? We are all thinking it but....

#29 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

Well something I forgot to add. The machine is untouched. Its original. Glass has never come off as far as I know. No mods added ( be hard to install mods with glass on)

I guess being as it came out the box is what some collectors want.

NIB +304 plays

#30 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

the picture with the three pop bumpers did you notice the 2 plastic caps? Is that where you can put a wire guide in to stop the drains?

This could be a clue to what revision it was... Just a thought...

#31 11 years ago

TJC

MinusWorlds

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Boston, MA

11y 103K 3,502 4

OP
Quoted from alchy999:
Would 10 years of that light fade the top?
Could be the answer?
Dave

Bingo. Yes fluorescent bulbs can certainly fade things over time...

#32 11 years ago

DAV

turbo20lbs

Pinside member

Schaumburg, IL

14y 92,550 2,178 8

OP
Quoted from alchy999:
It was taken out of the box somewhere early 2004 in a air conditioned warehouse underground at a constant 15c. I have been there and I remember fluorescent tube lighting just above the machine. Would 10 years of that light fade the top?
Could be the answer?
Dave

That may have what did it. Especially if that light was always on. Flourecent light emits UV.

#33 11 years ago

RML

tpn2011

Pinside member

Gulf Shores, AL

12y 55,900 1,418 1

Congrats im loving my tz just picked up a home use olny last week !!!

#34 11 years ago

WOZ

woz

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14y 77,050 1,866

The DMD driver board is not original:

http://forum-img.pinside.com/pinball/forum/?bb_attachments=676018&bbat=75827&inline

That's a PinLED replacement part:
http://www.pinled.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1_11&products_id=27

What's the story with this game then? How come you left it for 10 years? You have strong will power

_{Post edited by woz : Added PinLED Link}

#35 11 years ago

DWG

dgoett

Pinside member

Clark, MO

11y 95,650 2,418 14 26

Someone got screwed. Nice game, but after market CPU board, aftermarket DMD driver board, BAD cabinet fade on the head and other places. Just a restore - if it was sold as untouched original with glass never off their nose if growing very long.

Someone is telling a tall tale here.....

#36 11 years ago

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twinturb089

Pinside member

Walnutport, PA

11y 53,650 503 14 11 1

yes, i noticed the dmd board and cpu board did not look right....teekee should be here very soon to clear this whole thing up...

#37 11 years ago

TJC

MinusWorlds

Inactive member

Boston, MA

11y 103K 3,502 4

I no longer stand by my $9-$10K comments...

#38 11 years ago

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DCfoodfreak

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12y 115K 9,912 8 15

Turn for the worse...

#39 11 years ago

MAO

MikeO

Pinside member

Overland Park, KS

11y 88,400 3,625 41

Even with the reproduction CPU and DMD driver boards and cabinet fade the game could still be low play HUO.

As has been presented here countless times, condition is king. The shooter lane looks like HUO but TZ is not tough on wear here.

To validate the HUO claim I'd look for signs of the game having been routed. The coin insert is the first place to start. Clean with no dirt internally to it would support a HUO claim. I'd also possibly disassemble a flipper and see what wear shows on the plunger and stop along with how much dirt is in the area. These would be good indicators.

Mike O.

#40 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

I appreciate all the comments you have its exactly what I was expecting. This why I put it up to see if anything would be picked up...

#41 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

I have just checked the coin inserts they are fine. I will have a better inspection in daylight tomorrow.

#42 11 years ago

MIK

Miguel351

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11y 81,400 4,571 3

Quoted from twinturb089:
teekee should be here very soon to clear this whole thing up...

Whatever you do, don't say his name two more times!!!

Seriously though, it's still a super nice TZ. You can replace those backbox decals very easily and buy the right boards for it, no problem. Then, it'd be 100% correct and done, making it worth a very pretty penny, or whatever the British idiom equivalent is(a proper pound?). Truth is, most of us TZ owners(and future owners) would LOVE to have ours in this condition!

If it were fixed with those things I mentioned and even had the typical B/W coin door, here in the colonies, I'd say it'd be around a $7k machine, easy.

Out of curiosity, what are those parts in that bag with the white spacer kind of tool? Are they used to gap things like EOS's?

#43 11 years ago

epthegeek

Pinside member

Muskego, WI

11y 141K 7,532 11

Maybe the boards just got killed by batteries and were replaced?

#44 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

In the bag is a flipper spacer tool and eos parts. Other bags are spare bulbs and plastics.

#45 11 years ago

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teekee

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Canton, OH

14y 104K 6,065 11 13 2

Quoted from twinturb089:
yes, i noticed the dmd board and cpu board did not look right....teekee should be here very soon to clear this whole thing up...

I'm glad you called in the expert... cardboard does not fully block out UV rays. In the box if it was by a window with direct sunlight it could have faded some. Anyway, in this condition as is I would say its an easy $8000-$9000. I will be signing autographs at the Ohio Show and Allentown. $25.00 each... reserve your spot!

#46 11 years ago

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twinturb089

Pinside member

Walnutport, PA

11y 53,650 503 14 11 1

The condition of the game does look stunning, the boards may have been replaced, but i would still love to have it for my collection.

Quoted from teekee:I'm glad you called in the expert... cardboard does not fully block out UV rays. In the box if it was by a window with direct sunlight it could have faded some. Anyway, in this condition as is I would say its an easy $8000-$9000. I will be signing autographs at the Ohio Show and Allentown. $25.00 each... reserve your spot!

ps. i will bring my mr pinball.... i mean 2013 MR TEEKEE-torch price guide to the allentown show for the signing. thank you for the offer, How do i find outh thou king teekee? do i just look for a enormous head that wont fit through a normal mans doorway?, follow the papa-rotzzi? , look for the crowd of super models hanging to a single man? or look for the guy that the worlds most intresting man is bowing down too? lmao j/k. see ya at the show

#47 11 years ago

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teekee

Pinside member

Canton, OH

14y 104K 6,065 11 13 2

Quoted from twinturb089:
ps. i will bring my mr pinball.... i mean 2013 MR TEEKEE-torch price guide to the allentown show for the signing. thank you for the offer, How do i find outh thou king teekee? do i just look for a enormous head that wont fit through a normal mans doorway?, follow the papa-rotzzi? , look for the crowd of super models hanging to a single man? or look for the guy that the worlds most intresting man is bowing down too? lmao j/k. see ya at the show

Look for all of that and more... there will be more much more! See you there!

#48 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

Hi and ha ha Teekee great sense of humour

Well I paid less than you quoted so made my day thank you.

There is no re-import duty sending back to the states btw

#49 11 years ago

TPD

teekee

Pinside member

Canton, OH

14y 104K 6,065 11 13 2

OP
Quoted from alchy999:
Hi and ha ha Teekee great sense of humour
Well I paid less than you quoted so made my day thank you.
There is no re-import duty sending back to the states btw

We pinheads have it made here in the US for sure. I can't imagine having to pay for shipping and in some cases another 21%...

Not sure what you got that TZ for but it sounds like you got yourself a nice deal!

#50 11 years ago

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alchy999

Inactive member

Didcot

12y 50,650 503 2 64

Just checked the coil stops on the flippers and nothing to show any wear at all. All squeaky clean.

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