That's cool. Did you get a good look at his Krull?!
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Quoted from ctozzi:Funniest thing about him is he doesn't even own 1 pinball machine
But he has. The last pin that Chris owned was a TF LE. It didn't last long. It didn't help that his kids showed little interest in it.
Quoted from smassa:I think Chris was just trying to make a point that he doesn't always start off with pretty decent "7 or 8" quality pins. He sometimes takes games that are totally blown out and turns them into examples that were better then when the came off the factory floor. Where did you read between the lines and come up with he was doing this out of the goodness of his heart ( charity )???
Exactly.
I really can't comprehend where this thread has gone. Talk about taking a weird turn. PinballHelp made some statement about Chris' business as though he knew what he was talking about. Why he felt the need to even try to say what Chris does or the type of clients that he has is beyond me, but as a reminder, he said:
Quoted from PinballHelp:I have never seen him take anything that was too horribly damaged (although I imagine he has, but as you can see from the pictures, he's often taking a "7-8" and turning it into an "11"). He seems to cater to the pinball-as-an-investment market and very rich people who can afford to have pristine machines.
So there are obviously two statements that Chris says are wrong: he doesn't take anything "too horribly damaged" and he caters to "very rich people".
If those statement are in fact wrong, and someone is saying this as fact, why would anyone be surprised or offended that Chris would correct this erroneous information? It isn't a matter of whether the statements were intended to be derogatory, it is a matter of them being wrong. It isn't like Chris made a Federal case out of it.
Quoted from TigerLaw:never tell someone they have no right to an opinion...that is asking for trouble.
When someone says that HEP doesn't take/repair "anything too horribly damaged" and caters to "very rich people", that seems to be more of a statement of fact than opinion.
Quoted from Drano:I think it's been estimated that "top dollar" might equate to $50/hr. So, not exactly top of the scale.
I would think that people like say, lawyers for example, are getting a crapload more than that. I would also guess that some lawyers (purely as an example) get into that line of work for pure profit, while others see it as a vocation and do it for less common pursuits. I think there is room for both types in that profession as in Chris'
Someone's motivations should not be subject to public trial on a forum like this. That's just an opinion.
With posts continuously turning into this crap, it's no wonder guys like Jim have already backed away. If some here want to push away anyone with any real knowledge of this hobby from posting and participating, just keep this up.
Way too much drama here from people who's only contribution to this hobby is opening up their checkbook whenever a new pin is announced. Quite frankly, their opinions don't really amount to much next to someone who has paid some dues and actually contributes to this hobby.
I'd rather hear a bit more from Chris on some of the stories behind some of these games (like Hercules) rather than give more airtime to nonsense.
+1000
Quoted from iceman44:Its about the INVESTMENT and the VALUE for the majority of people that send in pins to him.........if you believe otherwise you are totally NAIVE!.....
Ice, why do you keep digging your hole deeper and deeper?
You keep saying this as though it is a fact, and is so "obvious", yet virtually everyone disagrees with this assertion. Including me.
Anyone who sends a pin to Chris at HEP does so with the knowledge that they will not be recovering their entire investment. Obviously the pin that has received the HEP treatment will be worth a lot more than it's non HEP counterpart....but you don't send a pin to Chris in order to make a profit. To do so would be "totally NAIVE!" 
Quoted from iceman44:Its ok man, not really trying to tool or rile anybody up (at least initially!)....it's all good, have a little healthy dialogue, even name calling, I don't take it personally....and then like Tiger says...HUG IT OUT! Sorry fellas, as lawyers, its what we do, wear the other side out, just having some fun tooling around....doesn't mean I'm a "tool" or anybody else on here is
Lawyers SUCK!!! 
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