Okay, just read the other 3 pages. What a waste of time.
Iceman, Gerry, you guys really need to take it easy. I mean, look at yourselves all red-faced and screaming in those posts. What the hell man?
I would expect a little bit of respect for members who have 20 times as much Pinside karma as you do
The same goes for all other people calling names and picking one-on-ones with others. If you can't have a reasonable discussion then please join another forum. Read the rules guys. Then re-read them. At least then you know what happened if your account gets closed.
Thanks, joining the group hug now