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My first EM - Surfer. Newb needs help.

By Fifty

5 years ago


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#26 5 years ago
Quoted from currieddog:

Before you starting filing and cleaning things please check Clay's superb guide, a must-read for all newbies: http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index1
Have an especially good look at 1f.

Thanks for reading my mind, currieddog . Well said. I upvoted your post.

#31 5 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

With credits on the machine, pressing start still does nothing

Quoted from Fifty:

do I ignore this and continue to manually add the credits and try to figure out why the game won't start?

If the Replay Button doesn't activate the Replay Button (V) relay, inpect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires.
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features

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#34 5 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

When you say REPLAY BUTTON are you just talking about the START BUTTON?

Yes that's right. Sorry for any confusion.

#42 5 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

Is it possible to buy original relays from PBR with the proper switch stacks pre-installed? I would like to remove the new electromechanical relays and revert everything back to the way it was from the factory.

Good plan but it's pretty easy to assemble switches and put them together into a relay. Hooking up the wires correctly could take a little hunting on the schematic so getting pictures is a good plan too.

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#77 5 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

Replay button is not doing anything.

If the Replay Button doesn't activate the Replay Button (V) relay, inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires.

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#81 5 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

I can't see if my V is energizing.

Hook one of these bulb testers or a voltmeter in parallel with the coil
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/em-pinball-circuits-basics-to-not-so-basic/page/2#post-3184715

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#95 5 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

I guess I need to start flexstoning every switch in the game.

Sorry but that would be a mistake. This forum is full of posts from people who tried shotgun cleaning & adjustments, and caused more problems than they were originally trying to solve.
What to do instead: Slowly and carefully diagnose one problem at a time and then fix only that.
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index2.htm#clean

Quoted from Fifty:

The score motor rotates non-stop.

It's probably obvious which one of these relays or switches is stuck closed. If not, put slips of paper in the switches to see which one stops the motor.

#97 5 years ago

Sorry I forgot to attach the schematic fragment with the switches that run the motor.

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#108 5 years ago

According to the Surfer schematic, the Replay Button (V) relay has 2 sets of normally open contacts. The one at 17E has an Orange&White wire on one side and a Blue&White wire on the other side.

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#114 4 years ago
Quoted from Fifty:

This is a super old thread, but I didn't see the need to start another one.

A new thread is a good idea so people who could help can find out what your current problem is by looking at the top instead of searching through 100+ posts.
Make it easy for us to help you!

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