Why does everyone keep saying JJ isn't making money? Did I miss that point of fact somewhere?
If they sell ~3k WOZ/~2k DI @ 9k each...there has to be some profit.?
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Quoted from MikeS:It's not rocket science. JJP has been in business since 2011, and since that time have produced <10,000 games among all models. When you factor in your factory, parts, salaries, tooling, legal issues, etc. over that many years and divide it up it doesn't exactly show profit. There are more Fish Tales games produced by Williams in one year in the 90's than all of the JJP games put together over 8 years.
Again, no facts, just assumptions. Show #'s. Not being a prick, but if no one knows the numbers, you can't make factual statements.
Quoted from PtownPin:JJP would have been better off limiting the YBR version to 200 games. At that price point they might have a chance to sell it out if they limited the run. That being said I really don't understand the logic of removing the monkey from the game....they've built thousands of units with the monkey .... its completely illogical...my guess is that JJP investors have put management on on short lease, and time is running out........at some point throwing good money after bad takes its toll....people with $ like to make $
Monkeygate. It's all a big monkey conspiracy. Monkey can't grab ass...monkey can't grab balls.
Quoted from spinal:Diskgate, trunkgate and now monkeygate.
For heaven’s sake, if we hear about mechs removed on their next release...
It all turns into one giant massdebate.
Quoted from PBINTHESOUTH:Well having owned almost all of the JJP games I might as well chime in too..
Yeah the collectible thing was a bummer when RR came out.. but when it meant JJP might survive with it I didn't care about it..
and apparently my WOZECLE is now worth more than I paid for it!
For me since then (with the exception of DI) the wildly overly complex rule set may be "deep" but I HATE IT... it makes TH and POTC no fun... who wants to walk up to a game and pick from 22? different characters and figure what to do with them next and strategize how they affect everyone else and the rest of the game..
Build quality on WOZ, TH, DI, and POTC are all amazing.. especially the ones on TH and WOZ.. they are superior to every game that's come out from Stern in the same time period (though AC/DC P and Pro MET are very nice).. and JJP should charge a $1000 more..
but $11K at TPF was not only a joke but stupid/insulting to all of us home buyers.. I don't see how they survive at those price points?
Very much looking forward to Willy Wonka... hopefull a ruleset more like DI/WOZ and still lots of toys/high build quality.. BUT NOT FOR $11K plus...
Me thinks you're overthinking it. POTC isn't that "deep" nor complicated. Picking a character is fun, but I don't put that much thought into it. The game can't be any simpler to understand...EVERYTHING is right in front of you, either lit on the playfield or on the screen. Plus Gibs tells you what to shoot for the ENTIRE time. Same with DI. It literally guides you through the entire game.
Quoted from iceman44:Exactly my point. Crazy to buy a YBR at that price
Why would I buy a “collectors edition” POTCCE, their words, for $12,500 when there will be many more versions of the same pin down the road
Create the narrative that Potc is finished to drum up sales, put out YBR to grab cash
Call me cynical but 2+2=4. Raise a pot of $$ to build Wonka
Potc is NOT finished and Black pearl version is coming
As a POTC owner, I don't gaf if they fire up the line again at some point and make as many as they can sell or even come out with special editions. Man, some people get so worked up over shit. Take a fucking xanex.
I once bought a Ford Explorer that said limited on the back. Sure as shit, if I didn't see another one the other day. FUCK YOU FORD.
Quoted from JodyG:You know, your points would be much better received if you would stop making every one of your posts into a personal attack.
You actually read his posts? 
Quoted from drfrightner:Iceman,
I’m not digging my own grave because you can’t deal with facts. When I think about the dumb things you say it reminds me of that movie airplane... where everyone on the plane tries to kill themselves from listening to the star of the movie tell his stories. Everything you say is a story because you can’t handle the truth quote from another famous movie. Maybe JJP should make that movie into a pinball JUST FOR YOU BROTHER! LOL
mirror (resized).jpgQuoted from anathematize:they started really selling once it was announced they were stopping production. lets not sit here and pretend these things were flying off the shelf before that - because they were not.
subjective community awards are subjective community awards.
a top executive was fired for how poor of a theme licensing deal was made on Pirates. that is an objective fact.
AND BEFORE YOU CALL ME A HATER I REALLY LIKE THE GAME - but it could have been so much more.
i'm capable of taking a 30,000ft view on this which most people seem unable to do. $9,500+ spent makes for a highly biased opinion.
And there are plenty of people like myself who bought it BECAUSE the game is light on movie assets. JD sucks and just playing movie clips is lazy af and gets old fast.
If I wanted to watch the movie, I'd go watch the movie. But I don't, because the movies pretty much sucked.
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