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How many times since JJP’s inception have big investors had to come in and sink big money?
Hasn’t upper level mgmt changed a few times since 2012 as well?
I think we all want them to succeed as they do build the best quality game but something just seems off with how the company is run.
How much money you really think they make per machine? I think we would all be surprised how low it is.
Quoted from Pinphila:1) They are both equally fun to me hence why I didnt buy one.
2) They are nowhere near the same price either.
My point is I think this game turned people off (hence its not selling) because there is another already out there. Now, Toy Story I cannot wait for and JJP may get my money then.
I think JJP needs to spend some time and money on market research.
Your last statement is key.....
I know Wonka is pretty popular amongst pinsiders but I view this title as a major major risk. It isn’t widely beloved as is WOZ, even more so outside of the US.
Toy Story on the other hand will sell well globally. Still very popular amongst families.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Some of these JJP doom and gloom comments make me laugh. Jack said they are sold out of every game at the factory. They are more successful today then they have ever been and have a big release with Wonka right around the corner and a second game being announced later this year.
YBR is a cash grab though lol.
Sold out at factory doesn’t mean highly profitable.
Quoted from rai:I’m worried about the future of JJP and my pins for future parts if they don’t survive.
I think JJP should leak pictures of Wonka to forstall people plunking down money on DK3.
Bingo...there is a reason Stern did what they did right after TPF and Jack was begging people not to buy anything in the next 3 weeks. Only so much money in the pot for most and it burns a hole in it fast. Stern just beats them to the punch.
Quoted from Pinballomatic:They’re pretty much sold out everywhere and what is being built now is already spoken for, but I guess that’s no indication of how well it sold.
As of last week there were still CE’s to be had.
Does it really matter how well they sell if the are making $500 per machine? I’m not saying this is the case but the rumor that was somewhat substantiated was the delays and mech issues put the costs way over what was originally planned.
Again this was the rumor back when it was announced they were shutting it down, couple this with some info the came out of TPF and it makes sense.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Jeez, JJP pins are heavier and the cabinets don't crack at the corners unlike countless Sterns that weigh 100lbs less. Why is that? Please tell me.
Have fun buying corner brackets and then noticing that they can't be screwed in well due to the lower quality of wood recent Stern cabinets have. Yeah, JJP destroys Stern in build quality. I also expect there to be more tweaking in a JJP as there's far more in them. Want nothing to go wrong? Buy a Star Wars pro or Iron Maiden Pro as there's not a single toy that interacts with the ball in either.
Let’s be fair here, POTC has not been a flawless build. Go read over the owners thread again to freshen up on the issues because there have been a ton. Yes they are all fixable and so are the stern issues.
As a POTC owner I can say that I’ve had more issues with this one machine than every other machine combined in my collection, and they get played frequently.
Where JJP really shines is innovation, amount of features and their cornerstone in my opinion is CODE and definitely not reliability. I’m always having to fiddle with POTC. Fun game though.
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