Hello all. This will be my first restoration. I have no issues with most of the stuff like wood working, painting, cab work, playfield work but will be a little out of my element when it comes to the board work. The table is pretty rough, lots of bare spots, lots of dings and scratches on the cab. The backbox displays are just hanging there so im pretty sure they will all need to be replaced. The backglass is also trashed. Hopefully the boards will be in good shape. I haven’t turned the table on yet, i need to check the power supply out and give it a good look over. Let me know what has worked for you guys when starting out with a table in this condition. Thanks
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My buddy txt me about a wk ago about seeing it on the fb marketplace, it was only about 1/2 hr from my house.

The table has been stored for the last few yrs. They said that it turns on, sets there in attract mode but would not kick a ball. As you can see in the one pic all the fuses were gone. I pulled them all but the 2.5 amp solenoid fuse was literally broke into pieces. Thanks for all the input so far.

So i did a little testing yesterday evening and started at the power supply. I installed new fuses and unplugged all out going connections from the board. I checked out the power cord and wiring leading up the the transformer mainly because the power cord is just a brown extension cord spliced in. Upon inspection i found that there is no on/off switch. The bottom cab panel has been replaced with some nasty fake brick panel and the switch removed and spliced together.
So after i replaced the power cord with a new one that had a ground prong i plugged it in. So far so good. So at this point the only thing that has power is the transformer and the power board. I start checking voltage on the fuses. All the voltages are nearly the same. 58-72 volts on all fuses and i checked some of the pins and they tested the same. I just did some fuse work on my firepower and I know this isnt right. Whats my next move? Check out the transformer and or its bad?
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Yep. I was wrong. But i do believe the transformer is bad. I took all the dc and ac readings on my firepower board and then went out to the AP to get those readings. They were considerably different from each other.
I wanted to eliminate either the power supply or the transformer so i installed the power supply board in my firepower. All readings were good. Looks like i have a bad transformer. Readings are as follows
AP. FP.
F1. 153.6. 88
F2. 10.5. 38.4
F3. 5.3. 17.8
F4. 10.5. 38.4

Thanks for that write up. I was going off my FP schematic. I did take readings off of the rectifiers but didnt include them. The solenoid rectifier has voltages of 10.5 then splits to 5.1. The lamp rectifier has an input voltage of 5.5 and splits to 2.3. I will go out and test each lead off of the transformer.

I pulled the transformer today and all is well. It checked all good to the schematics.

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I plan on changing the rectifiers and i did read over Vids bulletproofing guide. Looks easy and cheap enough so ill be doing that also.

At this point i went ahead and labeled, took lots of pics and pulled all the wiring and boards. I took the boards to get checked out. As you can see from the pics, lots of yellow and black streaks On the inner backbox.

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Started a little cabinet clean up today. I tried to use simple green to clean the inside smoked filled panels but it didn't cut it. I had to use zep cleaner. That worked like a charm
Im also starting to make the backbox side stencil.

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Well it took me about an 1.5 hrs but i got the stencils ready to go.

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Iv been wanting to learn how to do that, not really sure how to take a picture and make a vectored file from it. Ill see what i can do.

Well I noticed I forgot to cut out one of the black squiggly things in the bottom right. Had to fish out the stencil from the pile. All good now.

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I have black going down first. Then red then the black details inside the head.

I will be picking up my boards in the next couple days. They are currently in a Gorgar running through test mode and getting some plays on that table. So if you are local to Lafayette Indiana and are able to go to Main Street Amusements you can play Gorgar with Alien poker speech and sounds.

All boards are working and have all the essential Updates. Dan does a awesome job and gets your stuff back in a timely manner at a fair price.

Alien Poker’s sound and speech boards are good to go. The sound board got the usual treatment, new caps and connector headers, plus two new fuses. The speech board’s output was very low. Replacing one of the 1458 amps took care of that.
With low speech (or sound) the first thing to check is the setting of the 5K pot on the speech board. This adjusts the volume balance between sound and speech.

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When I pick them up I will get a few pictures of his test set up.

Started painting backbox hardware today and the transformer. I also got all my screws and bolts out of the tumbler. Looking pretty good I think.

I also bought some wood to make some repairs to the backbox. But after i got into it I decided I was just going to make a new one. It just had to much water damage and side damage. It also had some random nails and epoxy holding the bottom together. It has to go.

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I have made a few Mame cabinets and a virtual pin cab and also just normal home construction. Thats the extent of my wood working. I just get in there and do it. This is my last Mame cabs i built and my virtual cab. The last picture is my firepower table next to the VP cab playing Firepower.

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Started finishing up the backbox today. Drilled the vent holes and installed the guides for the backglass. I made one mistake on the base. Instead of measuring where the square cut out was i just measured the cut out and then centered it in the backbox. Shame on me for assuming it was centered. I also salvaged one piece feom the old backbox and it was the top angled piece that holds the top of the backglass.
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i have painted the metal surround for the inner backbox black and also primed and painted the backbox. Next will be the stencils. But that will need to wait till this coming Tuesday. Back to work tomorrow. And who knew that the blue on the alien poker cab and the Budlight can were the same. Any way. Cheers.
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Does anyone make replacement backbox warning and diagram decals?

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I started the PF cab today. Although not in horrible shape it definitely needed some repairs, clean up and some fresh paint. The bottom needed to be torn off and a new bottom installed. People do the damnedest things. 85BD9908-D7C4-4FA9-9A8E-789444B3B782 (resized).jpeg

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Could someone tell me what this bracket is used for?

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Instead of prying on the side to remove the spiral nails i just ground off the head pulled the rail off and then removed them with some lineman pliers. I will be powder coating the side rails so all grind marks will be covered later on.
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Next I tackled the bottom cab panel. This was pretty bad. Besides just being ugly as Sh$t, the previous installer made a horrible attempt at a speaker grill. They also missed some nail placements as they were sticking up exposed.
I tore the old out, cleaned up the edges to lay the new bottom in and installed new trim along the outside. Also made a speaker hole for the new speaker.

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The cab got a good sanding and some bondo patch work. The front panel also needed some extra attention. It appears the front has had some damage already due to the fact there is already bondo there. It was starting to separate so i glued and clamped and let set over night. The previous bondo job was crap so it go sanded and a new coat applied. The large chip on the back panel, the corners and the coin door lock brace holes got filled.

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I was thinking that. But wasn’t sure why it was down there and upside down. Thanks.

So the last thing to report on right now is the backbox stencil job. Man O man is it looking good. This still needs last layer of black for the face but I think it looks awesome so far. I also got the stencils traced out for the cab before the sand job.

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Thanks. No this isn’t from Tommy. It was a FB ad in Colfax In. It was setting in a auto repair shop.

Made some progress the last couple days. Finishing up the cab paint, painted the board and tilt parts. Installed the metal surround in the backbox.

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I left the backsides to all brackets bare. Once all grounded straps are installed ill make sure they are all good. Thanks for the heads up.

Installed the 1st side cab stencil. Looking good. Good thing I like to hoard nuts and bolts, they make great stencil edge hold downs for crisp lines.

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Finished up one side of the backbox. Installed the playfield prop up post, the new speaker and installed the boards. Get closer and closer to being able to work on the playfield. I even got some new parts from pinball life. Flipper rebuilds, new shooter rod and springs, pop bumper caps, clear leg protectors and new lane guides and flipper buttons.

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Excellent. What backglass and playfield did you get?

I made my own stencils. Traced out and then transferred to postor board.

You can check out earlier in the thread, but how i did it was, put tracing paper over the existing art, trace the bottom base image, for alien poker it was the black layer.
After the black outline is complete Cut 2 small boxes so each layer lines up together. Place new tracing paper over top of the of what u just traced out then do the red. Make sure to cut the 2 small boxes so you know it will line up. Then do the next layer the same, which was the black details in the face.
After tracing place each layer on poster board and then cut out.

Thanks. PM sent

Yes it is gloss black from Rustoleum. The the blue is a midnight blue. I can get the name of it next time im at the store but here is the color code. I took a piece of the backbox in to Menards paint section and started comparing. May not be exact but pretty damn close.
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Did some work on the back display yesterday. The board isn’t in that bad of shape, basically just needs cleaned up, bottom glued and painted. The displays have yet to be determined. As you can see all of them were just flopping around.
The white or in this case yellow light dividers were a little tricky to remove, only had one bad casualty. Does anyone sell these? They were all placed in simple green to clean up. They are cleaning up pretty good.
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Finished up one side of the cab. Ill start the other my next days off.

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Started the leg clean up also, they are in pretty rough shape. All the rust was sanded off wiped down, primed and enamel painted.
Side panels also sanded primed and painted.

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Thanks for the info RCA.

Yes the legs were sanded primed and then painted with gloss black enamel.

I kind of have a good idea of the $$$ amount but not really concerned about it. Now if ya talk to the wife that may be a different story.

I was going to give the ol super glue a try before buying new, but I had not thought about 3D printed stuff yet, good idea.

And your definitely right, It is no longer a $300 POS in the corner of a automotive shop.

Thanks for following along.

Ill get that for ya in the morning. Pretty sure its a rust-oleum primer and a rust-oleum gloss black industrial enamel. Ill take a picture in the morning. Id like to black out my firepower also.

Been working some OT so I haven’t done much in the last 2 wks. I did some new parts in, pop bumper skirts and bodies, leg braces, leg feet, power cord, and metal-mods pop cap stickers.

The backbox display board is all cleaned and painted, hardware also painted.

Wire harness placed back in the backbox. Still need to solder in the transformer and bridge rectifiers.

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Went to menards today and picked up some parts for the rotisserie.

I ordered the overlay today. With that being said i finished the backbox. Turned out really well. Soldered in the fuse block and hooked up the bridge rectifiers. Installed the crappy displays (which will get replaced) and adjusted the brackets so everything lines up.
Want to thank Sheprd for the great looking backglass that he had extra. It looks great.

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Received the overlay today. Any tips and tricks out there for a successful install?

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There has been a slight delay in progress due to my job. I work 3 days on 3 days off, and the boss thinks we need to work some OT.

Progress will pick back up later this wk with the last of the cab stencil work and move on to the grounding straps.

I will also be doing some scan work hopefully this wkend, i got a 4670 scanjet and will be doin the pf and plastics.

Stay tuned and thanks for looking.

Cabinet stencil work is complete. The black is finished on the front but it looks like I forgot to get a pic of that. Anyway ill get that soon.
And ill probably scan the cab and backbox just so i have it for future graphics or whatever. I do have access to us cutter machine now.

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The playfield has been put on the rotisserie and the disassembly has started. Yikes..... This is going to be nerve racking and exciting. And man is this thing nasty.
This thing must of had tons and tons of play considering the ball shooter lane area. The amount of wood that has been slowly banged away over the yrs is crazy.

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I have taken lots more pics then what I have posted.

New power switch installed today. While taking the cab apart awhile back I noticed that the wires had been soldered together, so the power switch essentially was the power cord. A piece of wood and metal were cut and painted, hole drilled in the cab bottom, and power switch installed.

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Cab wire harness was cleaned up, with the metal brackets taken off and painted. Harness installed, power cord soldered in.

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And the coin door. What a mess. At some point someone really wanted inside this thing. It took some hammering, a vice and some tools but it got to looking presentable. Wiring was cleaned and parts were painted.

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Looking good with her newly painted legs, bolts, colored washer and updated inside support brackets.

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Pulled the coin mech out of the simple green and it looks pretty good. Took a little more wire brushing to get the hidden spots but all in all it cleaned up nicely.

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Everything on the playfield has been cleared off. I wasn’t planning on doing inserts but would ya look at that. Im doin inserts now.

They really came out much easier then i was anticipated. It doesn't take much heat at all.

I pulled one out and tried to sand flat. It was working but man i couldnt see doin that to all the inserts. So i spent $18 and bought all new.

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Thanks for the heads up. Yeah i was planning on doing that, I just didnt want to spend the time hand sanding all the inserts. The old ones were cupped pretty bad, the triangle ones were curled at the point so they were also above the play field.

Very Nice. Did the guy just acquire it some how and not know what he had? Or just needed it gone? The guy was originally wanting $400, I said Id do $275 and then he countered for $300.

So are you guys saying I will still need to hand sand? I just figured I would install and then sand them while im doing the playfield.

I will be needing to do lots of clean up on the drops. And its missing some parts to reset the targets.

Anyone have a picture of this.

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Perfect Thank you. Thats just what I needed.

Great reference pictures also.

Damn, What a deal!!!!

What did your project look like afterwords?

Just wondering if anyone has this part or knows where i can get one? Iv looked on the web but with no luck. Its the all target drop bar.

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Its the B-8361

The only other part number I have found for that is a Diner plastic.

Post #123 has the whole schematic

Didnt get much done this wkend. But got the playfield sanded and the coin slot for the door put back together with new inserts.

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I could also use 3 of the plastic pieces.

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Thanks for the info guys. Ill be looking into getting some made.

Coin door wiring finished up today. Goin to look really good in the cab.

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