My $300 Alien Poker Project

Went to menards today and picked up some parts for the rotisserie.

I ordered the overlay today. With that being said i finished the backbox. Turned out really well. Soldered in the fuse block and hooked up the bridge rectifiers. Installed the crappy displays (which will get replaced) and adjusted the brackets so everything lines up.
Want to thank Sheprd for the great looking backglass that he had extra. It looks great.

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#102 4 years ago

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RGarriott

Received the overlay today. Any tips and tricks out there for a successful install?

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1 week later

#103 4 years ago

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There has been a slight delay in progress due to my job. I work 3 days on 3 days off, and the boss thinks we need to work some OT.

Progress will pick back up later this wk with the last of the cab stencil work and move on to the grounding straps.

I will also be doing some scan work hopefully this wkend, i got a 4670 scanjet and will be doin the pf and plastics.

Stay tuned and thanks for looking.

#104 4 years ago

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Cabinet stencil work is complete. The black is finished on the front but it looks like I forgot to get a pic of that. Anyway ill get that soon.
And ill probably scan the cab and backbox just so i have it for future graphics or whatever. I do have access to us cutter machine now.

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#105 4 years ago

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The playfield has been put on the rotisserie and the disassembly has started. Yikes..... This is going to be nerve racking and exciting. And man is this thing nasty.
This thing must of had tons and tons of play considering the ball shooter lane area. The amount of wood that has been slowly banged away over the yrs is crazy.

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#106 4 years ago

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Take lots of pictures as you go... They will help later.

#107 4 years ago

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Quoted from Sheprd:
Take lots of pictures as you go... They will help later.

I have taken lots more pics then what I have posted.

#108 4 years ago

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New power switch installed today. While taking the cab apart awhile back I noticed that the wires had been soldered together, so the power switch essentially was the power cord. A piece of wood and metal were cut and painted, hole drilled in the cab bottom, and power switch installed.

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#109 4 years ago

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Cab wire harness was cleaned up, with the metal brackets taken off and painted. Harness installed, power cord soldered in.

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#110 4 years ago

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And the coin door. What a mess. At some point someone really wanted inside this thing. It took some hammering, a vice and some tools but it got to looking presentable. Wiring was cleaned and parts were painted.

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#111 4 years ago

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Looking good with her newly painted legs, bolts, colored washer and updated inside support brackets.

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#112 4 years ago

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Pulled the coin mech out of the simple green and it looks pretty good. Took a little more wire brushing to get the hidden spots but all in all it cleaned up nicely.

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#113 4 years ago

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Everything on the playfield has been cleared off. I wasn’t planning on doing inserts but would ya look at that. Im doin inserts now.

They really came out much easier then i was anticipated. It doesn't take much heat at all.

I pulled one out and tried to sand flat. It was working but man i couldnt see doin that to all the inserts. So i spent $18 and bought all new.

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#114 4 years ago

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I did a f-14 and replaced all the inserts. You will still need to sand them flat. When they come brand new they still aren't perfectly flat and they may even have numbers cast into the faces. Just so you know.

#115 4 years ago

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Quoted from Grizlyrig:
Still, 300 bucks is a score for this. Well worth the time to fix up.
-Mike

A buddy of mine bought one in better shape than this for $85. No keys, so we drilled the locks & found $56 in quarters inside.
That was a nice score. I cleaned it up & repaired it for him, about $225 in parts....

#116 4 years ago

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Quoted from Waderade812:
I did a f-14 and replaced all the inserts. You will still need to sand them flat. When they come brand new they still aren't perfectly flat and they may even have numbers cast into the faces. Just so you know.

Thanks for the heads up. Yeah i was planning on doing that, I just didnt want to spend the time hand sanding all the inserts. The old ones were cupped pretty bad, the triangle ones were curled at the point so they were also above the play field.

#117 4 years ago

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Quoted from dasvis:
A buddy of mine bought one in better shape than this for $85. No keys, so we drilled the locks & found $56 in quarters inside.
That was a nice score. I cleaned it up & repaired it for him, about $225 in parts....

Very Nice. Did the guy just acquire it some how and not know what he had? Or just needed it gone? The guy was originally wanting $400, I said Id do $275 and then he countered for $300.

#118 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
Thanks for the heads up. Yeah i was planning on doing that, I just didnt want to spend the time hand sanding all the inserts. The old ones were cupped pretty bad, the triangle ones were curled at the point so they were also above the play field.

I think you did the right thing getting new inserts but all the new ones will need to be sanded still.

#119 4 years ago

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So are you guys saying I will still need to hand sand? I just figured I would install and then sand them while im doing the playfield.

#120 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
So are you guys saying I will still need to hand sand? I just figured I would install and then sand them while im doing the playfield.

If you are doing the overlay you will be able to install and sand them then. Probably the easiest approach.

#121 4 years ago

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I will be needing to do lots of clean up on the drops. And its missing some parts to reset the targets.

Anyone have a picture of this.

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#122 4 years ago

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Worked on mine just a little while back. Here are some before pics I took, hope this helps.

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#123 4 years ago

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This might help too.

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#124 4 years ago

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Quoted from davidw:
This might help too.[quoted image]

Perfect Thank you. Thats just what I needed.

#125 4 years ago

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Great reference pictures also.

#126 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
Very Nice. Did the guy just acquire it some how and not know what he had? Or just needed it gone? The guy was originally wanting $400, I said Id do $275 and then he countered for $300.

I think it was a project that his dad bought & never got around to fixing.

Oh, & the $85 was a delivered price too!

#127 4 years ago

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Quoted from dasvis:
I think it was a project that his dad bought & never got around to fixing.
Oh, & the $85 was a delivered price too!

Damn, What a deal!!!!

#128 4 years ago

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Quoted from davidw:
Worked on mine just a little while back. Here are some before pics I took, hope this helps.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

What did your project look like afterwords?

#129 4 years ago

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Just wondering if anyone has this part or knows where i can get one? Iv looked on the web but with no luck. Its the all target drop bar.

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#130 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
Just wondering if anyone has this part or knows where i can get one? Iv looked on the web but with no luck. Its the all target drop bar.[quoted image]

What is the part #? It's cut off in the photo

#131 4 years ago

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Quoted from dasvis:
What is the part #? It's cut off in the photo

Its the B-8361

#132 4 years ago

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The only other part number I have found for that is a Diner plastic.

#133 4 years ago

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I'll dig around in my parts bins if I get a chance I might have one I know I had a parted AP playfield a long time ago and I almost never throw anything out.

Finding it is another story, though. Hopefully I just pulled the drop bank off the PF and tossed it into the "williams drop targets" bin.

#134 4 years ago

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Post #123 has the whole schematic

#135 4 years ago

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Didnt get much done this wkend. But got the playfield sanded and the coin slot for the door put back together with new inserts.

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#136 4 years ago

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Found it in the bin marked 'williams drop target banks' - luckily I had just pulled off a couple parts over the years and while it's not in the greatest shape the reset bar and associated plunger is there....

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#137 4 years ago

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Quoted from slochar:
Found it in the bin marked 'williams drop target banks' - luckily I had just pulled off a couple parts over the years and while it's not in the greatest shape the reset bar and associated plunger is there....[quoted image][quoted image]

I could also use 3 of the plastic pieces.

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#138 4 years ago

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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2792174
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2926470

Those drop target guides are hard to find and when you do find them they are pricey, think $12 a piece. I found a 3D print scan for them and ordered 7 of them to be printed. Total cost was about $15. Got the target assembly rebuilt but haven't put it back in the game yet since I'm swapping playfields so I haven't tested it but it looks like it will work perfectly.

I went with the first one.

https://www.treatstock.com/

This is how I got them printed. Used a place in West Virginia called Ringing Anvil Armory.

#139 4 years ago

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Not bad, 7 for $15 - let us know how they work. Almost always these get damaged because people overtighten them which is NOT the thing to do - just snug them down.

Damaged originals could possibly be fixed if you remove the damaged post on them and replace with some kind of spacer.

#140 4 years ago

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Not only overtighten but the plastic is brittle after 40 years, doesn't take much to break them.

#141 4 years ago

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Quoted from davidw:
Those drop target guides are hard to find and when you do find them they are pricey, think $12 a piece. I found a 3D print scan for them and ordered 7 of them to be printed. Total cost was about $15. Got the target assembly rebuilt but haven't put it back in the game yet since I'm swapping playfields so I haven't tested it but it looks like it will work perfectly.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2792174
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2926470
I went with the first one.
https://www.treatstock.com/
This is how I got them printed. Used a place in West Virginia called Ringing Anvil Armory.

I have printed ones from the 2nd link. I have only tried them on my Scorpion, but not sure why they'd be different for Alien Poker. At any rate holes for the screws that hold the PCBs in place were too large for the stock screws. I happened to have some self-tapping machine screws that were larger and worked for me. All in all, the 3D printed spacers work well.

#142 4 years ago

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Thanks for the info guys. Ill be looking into getting some made.

#143 4 years ago

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Coin door wiring finished up today. Goin to look really good in the cab.

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#144 4 years ago

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Started cleaning up holes for the inserts. I found this stone bit worked the best. It cleans up all the old glue but doesn’t hog out the hole, so it keeps a nice tight dit for the new insert.

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#145 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
Started cleaning up holes for the inserts. I found this stone bit worked the best. It cleans up all the old glue but doesn’t hog out the hole, so it keeps a nice tight dit for the new insert.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Beautiful

#146 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
Looking good with her newly painted legs, bolts, colored washer and updated inside support brackets.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I wanted to get some red washers like your blue ones. Where’d you get these?

#147 4 years ago

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Quoted from mrm_4:
I wanted to get some red washers like your blue ones. Where’d you get these?

Pinball life has several colors.

#148 4 years ago

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Quoted from RGarriott:
Pinball life has several colors.

Thanks!

#149 4 years ago

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Got quite a bit completed today. All inserts have been glued and installed. Ill let them cure for a few days before I start sanding everything.

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#150 4 years ago

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